I answered your question Mooney, whether it was to your satisfaction is beyond my ability, I don't care about ND, I don't hate ND, I wouldn't go to school to ND, but on the other hand I wouldn't go to school at other places so no big deal there, I don't care that its Catholic, I don't care about your religion (unless it involves criminal matters-but that should be more your concern than mine, but that's a topic for another board), I care about football. ND hasn't delivered in years....and has been in bowl games and got tv coverage that other, more deserving teams should have been in the position to enjoy over the last couple of decades....yet I don't lose sleep over it. Hate to hurt your feelings, but I really don't care about Notre Dame.

They brought up a great point today on College Gameday. ND hasn't really been relevant nationally since the mid 90's, a span of 15 years.

Their two fluky BCS appearances? Got blown out in each, by OSU and LSU. ND only got into BCS games those years because of their 12 win BCS exemption. They really haven't been good and competitive on a national level since then.

That's the opinion of those on Gameday, and I think it's a pretty accurate assessment. Well, the BCS part was my opinion

Again, I read this thread and there's some very stupid people who follow college football, or they are so narrow minded they can't help themselves.

lhslep134 wrote:Their two fluky BCS appearances? Got blown out in each, by OSU

With in a TD of the lead with less than 5 minutes left in the game is a blow out?

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Manhattan Buckeye wrote: I answered your question Mooney, whether it was to your satisfaction is beyond my ability, I don't care about ND, I don't hate ND, I wouldn't go to school to ND, but on the other hand I wouldn't go to school at other places so no big deal there, I don't care that its Catholic, I don't care about your religion (unless it involves criminal matters-but that should be more your concern than mine, but that's a topic for another board), I care about football. ND hasn't delivered in years....and has been in bowl games and got tv coverage that other, more deserving teams should have been in the position to enjoy over the last couple of decades....yet I don't lose sleep over it. Hate to hurt your feelings, but I really don't care about Notre Dame.

How did you answer the question of "How is the tv contract arrogant?" Nowhere do I see an answer to that question. It is not an answer to my satisfaction, nor would it be to any person over the age of 2 who understands the question/answer process.

Teacher: "Manhattan Buckeye, who bombed the United States at Pearl Harbor?"
Manhattan Buckeye: "seventy-six"
Teacher: "Ummmm, yes.....uhhh you didn't answer the question though..."
Manhattan Buckeye: "I answered your question teacher, whether it was to your satisfaction is beyond my ability, I don't care about history, I don't hate history, I wouldn't go to school for history, but on the other hand I wouldn't go to school at other places so no big deal there."

I think that LSU has a seven game contract with ABC. What about the Big Ten netwrok? USC is always on, as is Ohio State, Florida and Texas. I know there are more. Most of this might be regional, shared with the conference. Wait ND is not in a conference.
Look, if NBC dropped ND becuase of ratings ESPN/ABC, CBS and others would jump at the chance.

Mooney44Cards wrote:How did you answer the question of "How is the tv contract arrogant?" Nowhere do I see an answer to that question. It is not an answer to my satisfaction, nor would it be to any person over the age of 2 who understands the question/answer process.

Teacher: "Manhattan Buckeye, who bombed the United States at Pearl Harbor?"
Manhattan Buckeye: "seventy-six"
Teacher: "Ummmm, yes.....uhhh you didn't answer the question though..."
Manhattan Buckeye: "I answered your question teacher, whether it was to your satisfaction is beyond my ability, I don't care about history, I don't hate history, I wouldn't go to school for history, but on the other hand I wouldn't go to school at other places so no big deal there."

LMAO!!!!!

rock_knutne wrote:

lhslep134 wrote:Their two fluky BCS appearances? Got blown out in each, by OSU

With in a TD of the lead with less than 5 minutes left in the game is a blow out?

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Well... It was 21-7 at one point. Then, 27-13.

It wasn't even a game until you guys got to 20 and tried to come back from 14 down, and then gave up, yet another, touchdown.

Everybody watching that game knew it was over after it was 21-7 because Notre Dame couldn't stop us.

It is arrogant because they are the only program that has their own network! Is it that too simple for you to understand? Jesus H. Christ. They don't share revenue, they have special rules in the BCS, that welcomes criticism, particularly when your team sucks, which they have for some time. Fuck me, I thought private schools were supposed to be better. Goddamn where did you go to college, Notre Dame?

DaBrowns41 wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

lhslep134 wrote:Their two fluky BCS appearances? Got blown out in each, by OSU

With in a TD of the lead with less than 5 minutes left in the game is a blow out?

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

Well... It was 21-7 at one point. Then, 27-13.

It wasn't even a game until you guys got to 20 and tried to come back from 14 down, and then gave up, yet another, touchdown.

Everybody watching that game knew it was over after it was 21-7 because Notre Dame couldn't stop us.

Yeah and Notre Dame is a bullshit call away from tying that game. How many steps did Anthony Gonzalez have to take before he dropped the ball? And then the refs bailed OSU out.

Revisionist history is great.

Whether you agree with the bullshit review and incomplete pass review....it was VERY close to being a tie ballgame there, yet OSU fans like to pound their chest that they killed ND, when anyone who isn't wearing scarlet goggles knows differently.

DaBrowns41 wrote:Well... It was 21-7 at one point. Then, 27-13.

It wasn't even a game until you guys got to 20 and tried to come back from 14 down, and then gave up, yet another, touchdown.

Everybody watching that game knew it was over after it was 21-7 because Notre Dame couldn't stop us.

Over at 21-7........you can't be serious? If Gonzalez's fumble had been called a fumble, as it should have, and Zibby's return for a TD stands, that game is wide open my friend! And go ahead and give me the could have, should have bull shit, bottom line is that was a BLOWN CALL!!!!!! That's how football works sometimes, it's a cruel game.

Manhattan Buckeye wrote: It is arrogant because they are the only program that has their own network! Is it that too simple for you to understand? Jesus H. Christ. They don't share revenue, they have special rules in the BCS, that welcomes criticism, particularly when your team sucks, which they have for some time. Fuck me, I thought private schools were supposed to be better. Goddamn where did you go to college, Notre Dame?

Or maybe you're just jealous? I'm willing to bet that's the case!

Regardless of how close the game was, OSU did have 610 yards of total offense in the game, which I think cost Rick Minter his job if I'm not mistaken.

The Bucks could have stepped on their throats but let them hang around for a while

Manhattan Buckeye wrote: It is arrogant because they are the only program that has their own network! Is it that too simple for you to understand? Jesus H. Christ. They don't share revenue, they have special rules in the BCS, that welcomes criticism, particularly when your team sucks, which they have for some time. Fuck me, I thought private schools were supposed to be better. Goddamn where did you go to college, Notre Dame?

Who would you suggest they share revenue with? You? OSU?

Oh and I missed the NCAA rule that you have to join a conference.

Again, they have special rules in the BCS because they aren't in a conference. OSU can have a shitty ass record, win all their (really difficult:rolleyes: ) Big10 games and get into the BCS. ND can't do that.....unless they have a rule.

The Big 10 has their own network......how arrogant.

Notre Dame is a bigger story when they are losing than Ohio State or anyone else is when they're winning. I know that pisses you and everyone else off. Get over it.

ytownfootball wrote: Won't bother me a bit, in fact I prefer them to be relevant. I like rooting against them but it kinda loses it's appeal when they're as bad as they have been.

On a side note though ewok...I hope you're staying away from the old lady with that thing you're toting in your pants the way it is...it's quite obvious you feel pretty strongly Stoops is your guy.

Stoops would be a great get.

LOL. I've already got a little ewok on the way.

Mooney44Cards wrote:

Hamp89 wrote:
It's the same nonsense rhetoric for any anti-ND people. Should other conferences feel the Big 10 is arrogant for having their own tv network? We're in the information age now, EVERYONE gets exposure. To be honest, I'd be much happier being able to watch games on the Big 10 network or ABC each week rather than NBC. Hayden and Hammond are terrible to listen to.

Did you ever notice how much Hammond looks like a clown?



Look at that face, just put some paint on it.....

Hammond head-butted a water buffalo.....and lived to tell about it.

rock_knutne wrote:

DaBrowns41 wrote:Well... It was 21-7 at one point. Then, 27-13.

It wasn't even a game until you guys got to 20 and tried to come back from 14 down, and then gave up, yet another, touchdown.

Everybody watching that game knew it was over after it was 21-7 because Notre Dame couldn't stop us.

Over at 21-7........you can't be serious? If Gonzalez's fumble had been called a fumble, as it should have, and Zibby's return for a TD stands, that game is wide open my friend! And go ahead and give me the could have, should have bull shit, bottom line is that was a BLOWN CALL!!!!!! That's how football works sometimes, it's a cruel game.

Like I said, if you had actually watched the game, you'd understand that OSU was dominant the entire game.

And blown call or not, that was still 7 points. You lost by 14 last time I checked. You were playing behind the whole game, so it wouldn't have changed the gameplanning THAT much.

You can bitch and moan all you want, but ND was never in that game.

"Notre Dame is a bigger story when they are losing than Ohio State or anyone else is when they're winning."

Indeed, in your mind, God love America we're all different.

I don't give a shit about Notre Dame on an emotional level. If they put a good product on the field I'll happily watch it and praise them when they play well. I like watching good football. Until then, who cares that matters?

DaBrowns41 wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

DaBrowns41 wrote:Well... It was 21-7 at one point. Then, 27-13.

It wasn't even a game until you guys got to 20 and tried to come back from 14 down, and then gave up, yet another, touchdown.

Everybody watching that game knew it was over after it was 21-7 because Notre Dame couldn't stop us.

Over at 21-7........you can't be serious? If Gonzalez's fumble had been called a fumble, as it should have, and Zibby's return for a TD stands, that game is wide open my friend! And go ahead and give me the could have, should have bull shit, bottom line is that was a BLOWN CALL!!!!!! That's how football works sometimes, it's a cruel game.

Like I said, if you had actually watched the game, you'd understand that OSU was dominant the entire game.

And blown call or not, that was still 7 points. You lost by 14 last time I checked. You were playing behind the whole game, so it wouldn't have changed the gameplanning THAT much.

You can bitch and moan all you want, but ND was never in that game.

ND wasn't playing from behind the whole game. They were actually up 7-0.

Just helping to keep it factual.

darbypitcher22 wrote:The Bucks could have stepped on their throats but let them hang around for a while

Then why didn't they? Tressel tried like hell to run that score up but he couldn't. You OSU fans make me sick at times, no BALLS to admit when you're arong!

Tress really didn't try to run the score up in that game... after it got to 21-7 and then 27-13 he did get conservative, believe it or not. Come on, you've been watching the Bucks for 9 years now, Tress isn't going to run somebody out of the stadium.

Manhattan Buckeye wrote: "Notre Dame is a bigger story when they are losing than Ohio State or anyone else is when they're winning."

Indeed, in your mind

Ummmm.....have you been paying attention to the media AT ALL?

Check out the front page of ESPN.com and CBSsports.com......Florida and Tim Tebow (a Heisman trophy winner) just went undefeated, played in their last home game, and are about to play in a 1 vs 2 battle for the national championship and the lead story is ND. And CBS is the SEC's parent network!!!

DaBrowns41 wrote: Like I said, if you had actually watched the game, you'd understand that OSU was dominant the entire game.

And blown call or not, that was still 7 points. You lost by 14 last time I checked. You were playing behind the whole game, so it wouldn't have changed the gameplanning THAT much.

You can bitch and moan all you want, but ND was never in that game.

OMG.......I've heard it all now! I lost all respect for you DaBrowns! You're nothing more than a regular foolish OSU homer like the majority of the posters on this board!

LOL I'll send you the film rock, I've got it on DVD.... you can truly tell me after you guys went up 7-0 whether or not you were truly in the game

darbypitcher22 wrote: Tress really didn't try to run the score up in that game... after it got to 21-7 and then 27-13 he did get conservative, believe it or not. Come on, you've been watching the Bucks for 9 years now, Tress isn't going to run somebody out of the stadium.

No he didn't, he kept thowing the ball down field! Thankfully, ND made some plays.

"Ummmm.....have you been paying attention to the media AT ALL? "

Sure, no different than R-Rod at Michigan (and they suck now), and look who the media is hyping, at best a guy that has never won a BCS bowl game, and the last 4 coaches were (i) an assistant, (ii) a fraud (although accomplished), (iii) a good guy that had some success but not a ton of success at an academic school and (iv) an unproven NFL coordinator. How is this impressive? If I'm Stoops, Meyer or another big name coach, it is taking a helluva lot of bank to get me to leave.