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GoChiefs

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Nov 23, 2009 6:39 PM
Ok..so I've heard a lot about this thing over the last couple years..but not really paid much attention to it..what the hell is the purpose of it? I know they wasted 10 billion dollars on it..I hear people talking about the end of the world and all that crap..what's the big deal with it?
Nov 23, 2009 6:39pm
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Free_is_better

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Nov 23, 2009 6:43 PM
Link?
Nov 23, 2009 6:43pm
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CenterBHSFan

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Nov 23, 2009 6:46 PM
It's all about anti-matter.
Nov 23, 2009 6:46pm
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snyds113

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Nov 23, 2009 6:47 PM
They are trying to see what it looked like the moment of creation.
Nov 23, 2009 6:47pm
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snyds113

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Nov 23, 2009 6:52 PM
If your a God loving person then this experiement is not for you.
Nov 23, 2009 6:52pm
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Glory Days

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Nov 23, 2009 7:10 PM
yeah they are hoping to create a mini big bang in the lab basically.
Nov 23, 2009 7:10pm
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3reppom

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Nov 23, 2009 7:21 PM
CenterBHSFan wrote: It's all about anti-matter.
It is an attempt to create, and more importantly capture anti matter. Definitive proof anti-matter would be the scientific discovery of the century.
Nov 23, 2009 7:21pm
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sleeper

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Nov 23, 2009 7:37 PM
They are essentially trying to prove that something can be created from nothing. If they succeed it essentially trashes all religions, which is a good thing.
Nov 23, 2009 7:37pm
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capninsano

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Nov 23, 2009 7:51 PM
Technically they aren't trying to recreate the big bang..as such an event would destroy our universe. They are trying to recreate an environment essentially a split second after the big bang. Their biggest hope is to discover proof that the Higgs Boson exists...which is theoretically believed to be what gives everything in the universe its mass.
Nov 23, 2009 7:51pm
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nc52

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Nov 23, 2009 8:07 PM
otherwise known as the god particle.
Nov 23, 2009 8:07pm
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CenterBHSFan

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Nov 23, 2009 8:24 PM
Dan Brown!
Nov 23, 2009 8:24pm
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thePITman

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Nov 23, 2009 8:31 PM
capninsano wrote: Technically they aren't trying to recreate the big bang..as such an event would destroy our universe. They are trying to recreate an environment essentially a split second after the big bang. Their biggest hope is to discover proof that the Higgs Boson exists...which is theoretically believed to be what gives everything in the universe its mass.
Just curious. I'm not a scientist... So it's an experiment that would prove a theory to be correct that another theory is POSSIBLE? So it wouldn't really prove anything? They have to prove that 2nd theory. And if they're duplicating the moment AFTER the big bang, what does that prove in practical terms?
Nov 23, 2009 8:31pm
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capninsano

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Nov 23, 2009 8:44 PM
The higgs boson is the part of the big bang theory that scientists currently believe give mass to everything in the universe. The big bang itself didn't give mass to the universe, it was simply the "starting point" of the universe and its processes.
Nov 23, 2009 8:44pm
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Sage

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Nov 23, 2009 9:30 PM
I am glad that there are people who pursue this stuff.

It leaves more drugs and fun things for me.
Nov 23, 2009 9:30pm
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jmog

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Nov 23, 2009 9:35 PM
sleeper wrote: They are essentially trying to prove that something can be created from nothing. If they succeed it essentially trashes all religions, which is a good thing.
Actually, since in theory creation is creating something out of nothing, how would this essentially trash all religions?
Nov 23, 2009 9:35pm
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3reppom

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Nov 23, 2009 9:47 PM
It wouldn't. Science could go back to the instant of the big bang and prove whatever theories for the creation of the universe they could but people that believe in god would still claim that god started the process or deny the validity of the findings outright. Because that belief can't be proven to be true or false you are essentially right back where you started. Science isn't concerned with challenging religions and religious peoples beliefs, it is about expanding the base of knowledge about the world and indeed the universe that encompasses all of us.
Nov 23, 2009 9:47pm
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kayo

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Nov 23, 2009 9:48 PM
jmog wrote:Actually, since in theory creation is creating something out of nothing, how would this essentially trash all religions?
Because he felt edgy saying it in the first place?
Nov 23, 2009 9:48pm
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Be Nice

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Nov 23, 2009 10:05 PM
I thought this thread was going to be about Ron Jeremy.
Nov 23, 2009 10:05pm
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Nov 23, 2009 10:09 PM
jmog wrote:
sleeper wrote: They are essentially trying to prove that something can be created from nothing. If they succeed it essentially trashes all religions, which is a good thing.
Actually, since in theory creation is creating something out of nothing, how would this essentially trash all religions?
Because then you don't need GOD!
Nov 23, 2009 10:09pm
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CharlieHog

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Nov 23, 2009 10:16 PM
ccrunner609 wrote: no matter what they find....it will always be theory.

Nov 23, 2009 10:16pm
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Cleveland Buck

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Nov 23, 2009 10:25 PM
If they were trying to create something from nothing, they would just be sitting there watching the empty tube. Since they are colliding particles, they are trying to create something from those particles and the energy to move them into each other. The Laws of Conservation of Energy and Matter are not theories. They are laws. Energy and matter can not be created from nothing, unless it is by something that is not governed by our laws of physics.
Nov 23, 2009 10:25pm
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Nov 23, 2009 10:44 PM
3reppom wrote:Science isn't concerned with challenging religions and religious peoples beliefs, it is about expanding the base of knowledge about the world and indeed the universe that encompasses all of us.
I think that is a good statement. But having seeing "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" I'm not so sure that's the truth.
Nov 23, 2009 10:44pm
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CenterBHSFan

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Nov 23, 2009 10:51 PM
Science, doesn't try to disprove any religion.
Scientists do that.
:)
Nov 23, 2009 10:51pm
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Cleveland Buck

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Nov 23, 2009 11:00 PM
According to the laws of physics, it is impossible for the universe to exist if it was not created by an external creator that is beyond the laws of our physical existence. What this creator did after that is up for debate, but we wouldn't be here if there wasn't one.
Nov 23, 2009 11:00pm
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tuskytuffguy

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Nov 23, 2009 11:08 PM
"I" am the big bang atom smasher, or so my wife tells me.
Nov 23, 2009 11:08pm