:rolleyes:Automatik;391527 wrote:I'd rather they just stay independent and irrelevant.
rock_knutne;391535 wrote:Mooney (and krambman too), read these.......some good points on why ND should remain independent:
http://www.ndnation.com/blog/2009/12/no-means-no.html
http://www.ndnation.com/blog/2010/04/notre-dame-joins-big-10.html
Mooney44Cards;391566 wrote:Funny you should post the "No Means No" article, as that is exactly what sparked my anger last night. Even the headline is obnoxious. I'd like to read a non-bias opinion of why theres absolutely no reason why Notre Dame should join a conference.
NDNation has quickly become one of my least favorite sites on the internet. The air of college football snobbery reeks in there. They'd rather argue about why some residence life guy is making game-day boring than talk about why the team has blown for the past 15 years and how to solve it.
Too many ND grads in there.....and ND grads tend to be the worst offenders of Notre Dame arrogance and snobbery.
rock_knutne;391530 wrote::rolleyes:
Automatik;391687 wrote:You disagree? If the 4 major conferences form and ND stays independent they will be even more irrrelevant than they already are. But hey...at least they will be on national TV every Saturday....so they at least got that going for them.
Thank you!karen lotz;391696 wrote:Big if at this point.
I don't understand at all how Notre Dame can be so irrelevant yet the Big Ten has tried very hard 2 times in the last 15 years or so to get them to join.
Automatik;391687 wrote:You disagree? If the 4 major conferences form and ND stays independent they will be even more irrrelevant than they already are. But hey...at least they will be on national TV every Saturday....so they at least got that going for them.
Automatik;391728 wrote:When I say irrelevant I mean when it comes to competing for a title and BCS bowl Ws..... accomplishments, hell even a conference title. If I were an ND fan I'd be tired of the independent BS.
Join a conference and come play with the big boys.
Also, how is what I said hating? You really do take comments to heart don't you? Thicken that skin!
rock_knutne;391736 wrote:LOL.........I've NEVER read a positive post from you regarding ND, NEVER! How would you take that?
BTW, ND does play the "big boys" and plays them on their own terms........and before you spout off, you surely don't want to compare past and future schedules, because in most instances it's not even close.
Automatik;391749 wrote:lol why do you care so much what I say? You act like the personal defender of all Italy and ND. Its true I do not like ND, but follow their program and I just call it like I see it.
So you don't think ND joining a conference would give them a better shot at success? Also, I really don't care about their schedule. Where has that gotten them lately in terms of ACCOMPLISHMENTS?
Which big boys do you speak of? Minnesota? Indiana?Automatik;391728 wrote:When I say irrelevant I mean when it comes to competing for a title and BCS bowl Ws..... accomplishments, hell even a conference title. If I were an ND fan I'd be tired of the independent BS.
Join a conference and come play with the big boys.
karen lotz;391783 wrote:Which big boys do you speak of? Minnesota? Indiana?
You certainly know all about being at the minor league level.newarkcatholicfan;391808 wrote:This started out as a good topic but as usual some on here had to take it down to a minor league level.
The only plus for Notre Dame staying an independent is money(greed)
Thats cuz you've always played second banana to the likes of Kock Rutne and Lotz as the biggest Shamrock Molesters on the OC and now here comes this feller Mooney sounding like a freakin' genius and he's the toast of the thread. Hell I might see if he wants to go watch a game with me at one of those "hundreds" of ND bars that are supposedly out there. I'd really like to know where those are located. they must be in either Shanty Town or Dago 'Ville cuz I aint seen any here in c-bus.killer_ewok;391762 wrote:This isn't anything new. Shit, I've been saying for a couple of years now (on JJ's before and on Ohio Chatter the last several months) that I wanted ND to join the Big 10. So did a couple other ND fans (Mots comes to mind). A lot of the reasons given for not wanting them to join were bullshit and that's been said before.
For a second I felt left out that I didn't get pats on the back from the likes of Tiernan and NCF but then I remembered that I don't want those fucking assholes touching me anyways.
newarkcatholicfan;391808 wrote:This started out as a good topic but as usual some on here had to take it down to a minor league level.
The only plus for Notre Dame staying an independent is money(greed)
Which of those schools has Notre Dame not played?dat dude;391792 wrote:I'm thinking he meant OSU, Nebraska, PSU, etc. According to most preseason top 25s, the Big 10 has 4 in the top 11.