wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jun 2, 2010 9:24pm
pnhasbeen;377225 wrote:That would have been the third perfect game of the season. Unreal.
Good point....I heard on the radio after the last guy through a perfect game, that it was the first time since 1880 that 2 perfect games had been thrown in the same season. So I am guessing that 3 times has never happened.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jun 2, 2010 9:27pm
wes_mantooth;377241 wrote:Good point....I heard on the radio after the last guy through a perfect game, that it was the first time since 1880 that 2 perfect games had been thrown in the same season. So I am guessing that 3 times has never happened.
nope, never. and even the one from 1880 isnt really considered since it is not part of the modern baseball era.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 2, 2010 9:33pm
atrocious....wasn't that close
umpires make that call an out 999/1000 in that situation.......we found Mr. 1
dumbass
nice call and nice mustache.....wth
How can an umpire make that mistake in that situation.....you
umpires make that call an out 999/1000 in that situation.......we found Mr. 1
dumbass
nice call and nice mustache.....wth
How can an umpire make that mistake in that situation.....you
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jun 2, 2010 9:37pm
maybe he a got a call from Bud Selig before the 9th inning and the word on the street is there have been too many perfect games... let's see if we can start a conspiracy theory here haha.
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Jun 2, 2010 9:38pm
Jim Joyce is a trending topic on Twitter but few messages have been as harsh as Tim McCarver:
"If MLB were Latin American soccer, Jim Joyce would've already been murdered by a crazy fan."
"If MLB were Latin American soccer, Jim Joyce would've already been murdered by a crazy fan."
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 2, 2010 9:39pm
I gotta say, the best part of the game was Rod Allen saying, "Why is he safe?"
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trackandccrunner
Posts: 1,283
Jun 2, 2010 9:42pm
Had to make that my FB status fucking hilarious!mucalum49;377273 wrote:Jim Joyce is a trending topic on Twitter but few messages have been as harsh as Tim McCarver:
"If MLB were Latin American soccer, Jim Joyce would've already been murdered by a crazy fan."
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jun 2, 2010 9:42pm
Aside from the fact it really wasn't even that close a play, you think as an umpire you would want to error on the side of calling the runner out considering it was the last play of a potential perfect game, of which there are like 20 in all of baseball history. With something so rare in the balance it is incomprehensible to me how you call the runner safe in that situation unless it is clear as day, which it was anything but.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 2, 2010 9:42pm
He wont be fired. They will remove him from the crew for tomorrow nights game but this wont cost him his job.
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norwalk
Posts: 158
Jun 2, 2010 9:42pm
If you get a chance watch / listen to the Leyland interview after the game. Class act and he defended the umpire saying everyone makes mistakes, etc. I'm in shock like everyone else but when you look at it like the way Leyland does, you realize it's baseball and thats one of the things so great about it. You never know what you'll see, etc.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jun 2, 2010 9:49pm
norwalk;377286 wrote:If you get a chance watch / listen to the Leyland interview after the game. Class act and he defended the umpire saying everyone makes mistakes, etc. I'm in shock like everyone else but when you look at it like the way Leyland does, you realize it's baseball and thats one of the things so great about it. You never know what you'll see, etc.
Agreed, what can you do? I'd be a bit more upset as a coach if it happened in a playoff series as opposed to an early June game. In a weird way Galarraga may become more famous as a result of this. Mike Witt pitched a perfect game and I wonder what percentage of baseball fans even know who he is. Galarraga is going to be like Harvey Haddix.
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Dr Jones
Posts: 52
Jun 2, 2010 9:50pm
That would have been the third perfect game of the season. Unreal.
The year of the Pitcher...thats what happens when steroids are being watched.......
The year of the Pitcher...thats what happens when steroids are being watched.......
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jun 2, 2010 9:51pm
Worst call in almost 25 years (1985). I agree with everyone that said this is a call that a professional umpire has to get correct. The play was just not that close. I give props to Leyland for saying the 'right' things in the post game interview....but I don't think that was what he was saying on the field.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 2, 2010 9:54pm
I just watched the replay. I don't like the Tigers or anything like that, but as a baseball fan it almost made me sick to my stomach at how badly he blew that call. My God.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Jun 2, 2010 9:55pm
that was my thought too when i saw it was going to be close. i thought no way would they call him safe.IggyPride00;377284 wrote:Aside from the fact it really wasn't even that close a play, you think as an umpire you would want to error on the side of calling the runner out considering it was the last play of a potential perfect game, of which there are like 20 in all of baseball history. With something so rare in the balance it is incomprehensible to me how you call the runner safe in that situation unless it is clear as day, which it was anything but.
KR1245;377285 wrote:He wont be fired. They will remove him from the crew for tomorrow nights game but this wont cost him his job.
yeah that would make sense. there is no way they can fire him. you cant treat him different just because there was a perfect game on the line.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jun 2, 2010 9:56pm
He definitely has to be removed for tomorrow's game and really...he shouldn't do another game in Detroit this year.....personal safety issue.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 2, 2010 9:58pm
I know who Mike Witt is and like Len Barker....I know he threw a perfect game.
Agree with iggy....umps never call it that way....almost as if he wanted it to be about him....well, now it is
Agree with iggy....umps never call it that way....almost as if he wanted it to be about him....well, now it is
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Dr Jones
Posts: 52
Jun 2, 2010 9:59pm
NO doubt a bad call. The ump is only human. ALL of the Tigers and the Manager were very classy. Maybe this will spark the Tigers for the rest of the season.....BTW The ump is one of my friends` uncle here in Toledo. He is not answering his phone.....lol
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 2, 2010 10:04pm
Dr Jones;377309 wrote:NO doubt a bad call. The ump is only human. ALL of the Tigers and the Manager were very classy. Maybe this will spark the Tigers for the rest of the season.....BTW The ump is one of my friends` uncle here in Toledo. He is not answering his phone.....lol
I realize he is only human, but come on, I've never seen a call blown that bad.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 2, 2010 10:04pm
After watching 2 decades of baseball and seeing how umpires call plays....I just can't believe he called that. Kinda like the area play at 2nd on a DP and the ump calls the runner at 2nd safe even though the SS clearly tagged the bag wtih ball in glove.......I've never seen that called before.....same type of play IMO. Just amateur IMO....like in little league you see an ump on an appeal play call a runner out for tagging up and leaving too early even though the ump didn't see the play in question......same level.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jun 2, 2010 10:05pm
At least Joyce isn't hiding....he saying it like it is...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300602106
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300602106
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jun 2, 2010 10:07pm
Not that it makes it better, but Joyce has already made a comment and acknowledged his monumental fuck-up.
He could have been a dick about it like some umps would (Joe West would have his publicist issue a statement the next day that was vague and never accepted any blame), but he manned up the minute he saw the replay.
He could have been a dick about it like some umps would (Joe West would have his publicist issue a statement the next day that was vague and never accepted any blame), but he manned up the minute he saw the replay.
"I just cost that kid a perfect game. I thought he beat the throw. I was convinced he beat the throw, until I saw the replay."
"I don't blame them a bit or anything that was said. I would've said it myself if I had been Galarraga. I would've been the first person in my face, and he never said a word to me."
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Jun 2, 2010 10:07pm
Ironman92;377308 wrote:I know who Mike Witt is and like Len Barker....I know he threw a perfect game.
Agree with iggy....umps never call it that way....almost as if he wanted it to be about him....well, now it is
Yeah, but I think there is a difference between Witt and Barker. Barker's perfect game was the first in over a decade, and was a HUGH deal even though he never developed into dependable quality starter. Witt's was during the last game of the year against a craptacular Rangers team, in the height of the Rangers' craptitude. In the modern era I'm guessing more fans would recall Barker's PG, but wouldn't have the foggiest idea who Witt is.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 2, 2010 10:08pm
^^^^^that is one thing he is right about.....I can atleast respect him for admitting his mistake........had he not......ooh it owuld be even uglier......but he'll be booed in Detroit for years to come.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jun 2, 2010 10:08pm
Timmy K says that umpires get that call right 100,000 out of 100,001 times and that he clearly blew it tonight. As he said, Jim Joyce, and Jim Joyce alone deprived him of the perfect game he threw tonight because he did retire 27 out of 27 he just didn't get credit for it.