^^^^^

I am considering the switch. Fiancee loves her iPhone and will probably get the 4 this weekend. This report of Verizon version being available in January has me reconsidering because I know how much better Verizons 3G network is (also closer to a 4G network) as comapred to ATT

Yeah I'm up for upgrade in December and will probably switch away from Blackberry. Not sure if I'll go to the iPhone or something else.

Not a fan of Blackberry. Buttoms are so damn small it is like they deisgned the phones for a 12 y/o girl. Then the Storm is not touch snesitive but you actually have to push the screen in and I didn't like that.

I am torn on this, assuming it is accurate.

By the time January rolls around iPhone 4 is 6 months old and only 6 months away from being replaced. If I am waiting that long I might as well just wait until next June to make the switch.

slingshot4ever;405861 wrote:Not a fan of Blackberry. Buttoms are so damn small it is like they deisgned the phones for a 12 y/o girl. Then the Storm is not touch snesitive but you actually have to push the screen in and I didn't like that.

I have storm2 and don't really mind the phone much at all. I am more concerned with the internet being slow and the browser sucking balls. Also not a fan of the seemingly limited selection of apps compared to iPhone and Droid. I will definitely miss BBM if/when I switch.

Fab1b;405749 wrote:I think if the IPhone goes to other networks besides AT&T all these so called IPhone and Apple haters will be rethinking that since you couldn't have it before!

Only if it is reasonably priced compared to the similar phones on the market.

I'm getting pissed in general at phone companies. I don't need a goddamn smartphone, but I don't want a piece of shit phone either, and basically that no longer exists. I don't care about data on my phone and have no desire to pay for it either, but basically the phone companies only offer smartphones (data plan required) or the relic flip phones, there is literally nothing in the middle like my Voyager right now (has added functionality in terms of media and stuff compared to a generic run of the mill phone as well as a full keyboard to text, and any of the data stuff with it is optional, no requirement to carry a data plan. I actually have it blocked)

Interesting timing on the article...this article drops the same day the iPhone 4 starts selling at stores?

Kind of smells like a stunt to try to stifle iPhone 4 sales to me. It just seems odd that Verizon would slam the iPhone in ads and pump up the Android phones as devices that are far and away better than anything Apple has produced...and then turn around and start selling it in their stores. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

ts1227;405872 wrote:Only if it is reasonably priced compared to the similar phones on the market.

I'm getting pissed in general at phone companies. I don't need a goddamn smartphone, but I don't want a piece of shit phone either, and basically that no longer exists. I don't care about data on my phone and have no desire to pay for it either, but basically the phone companies only offer smartphones (data plan required) or the relic flip phones, there is literally nothing in the middle like my Voyager right now (has added functionality in terms of media and stuff compared to a generic run of the mill phone as well as a full keyboard to text, and any of the data stuff with it is optional, no requirement to carry a data plan. I actually have it blocked)

You should correct that statement. There aren't any good mid-range phones available without data AT VERIZON. Sprint and AT&T offer quite a few midrange phones that fit exactly what you are looking for and don't require the data on the device. Verizon is the only one that requires at least a $10 data plan on the mid-range devices. The other companies do not. So you can get something like the Rumor, Lotus, Remarq, Sleek, Restore, and TONS of other messaging phones without the data charge being required.

Fab1b;405749 wrote:I think if the IPhone goes to other networks besides AT&T all these so called IPhone and Apple haters will be rethinking that since you couldn't have it before!

People don't hate the iPhone, they hate AT&T. People who hate Apple really just hate Mac, they typically don't have issues with the iPhone/iPod.

karen lotz;405849 wrote:Yeah I'm up for upgrade in December and will probably switch away from Blackberry. Not sure if I'll go to the iPhone or something else.

I'm up for an upgrade in August, but I just had my phone (Storm) replaced under insurance, so I may just save my upgrade (if they let you do that). I'm pretty conflicted as well as to whether I'll end up with an Android phone or the iPhone. The one thing that may sway me the way of Android is Flash support.

justincredible;405862 wrote:I am torn on this, assuming it is accurate.

By the time January rolls around iPhone 4 is 6 months old and only 6 months away from being replaced. If I am waiting that long I might as well just wait until next June to make the switch.

We don't know if it will be the same iPhone 4 that AT&T has. It's possible that Verizon will be supplied with a slightly different (and better) iPhone. That way every six months it will switch back and forth as to which provider has the best new iPhone.

Yeah, people know I'm not an iPhone/Apple hater, I'm using a Mac lol.. However, I've always said I'll never use AT&T because their plans and 3G coverage SUCK.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/verizon-wireless-changing-to-verizon-this-sunday-massive-new-br/

"So Droid Life -- which has earned itself a solid record in the rumor game as of late -- is reporting that Verizon Wireless will be dropping the "Wireless" portion of its name this weekend and announcing that it won't be carrying the iPhone 4"

Came out before the Bloomberg article....So while Droid Life is likely more in-the-know, Bloomber could have been specific info leaked to dispel the rumor (and obviously no announcement has yet been made).

Apple needs VZW a lot more the VZW needs Apple, IMO. But one would think VZW is salivating over all those potential new customers. Google, at this point, would care little either way with Android firmly entrenched and continuing to grow rapidly. There would be some switching on both sides, but for most people neither phone is good/bad enough to warrant learning a new OS and buying new apps. I would say 99.9% of people who have put the time into learning and customizing their Droid would never consider switching to an inferior phone (and IPhone IS inferior if you are taking full advantage of the Droid's capability). I know we're still waiting on Froyo, but Google's next release of Gingerbread is supposed to focus on the UI and that could be a difference maker for a lot of people.

Anyway, there is a rumored superphone or two coming out from VZW later this year that promises to be a game-changer.

hoops23;405940 wrote:Yeah, people know I'm not an iPhone/Apple hater, I'm using a Mac lol.. However, I've always said I'll never use AT&T because their plans and 3G coverage SUCK.

Would have gotten an IPhone a year or two ago but swtiching to AT&T was simply not an option. Have a Droid now and will probably never switch from the Android OS.

This is PC vs. Apple all over again. There will continue to be strong markets for both. People who want a nice, pre-defined UI will choose IPhone. People who want to control their own user experience will stick with Android. And, over time, the two will probably come to resemble each other more closely than we realize.

Yes, now that I bought the HTC Hero, I'm loving my Android experience.

When I still had my Blackberry, I used my iPod Touch ALL the time.. Since buying the Hero (bought it off Ebay from a guy who upgraded to the EVO, thus keeping my upgrade intact for December as well) I've given my iPod touch to my g/f. The Android market is every bit as plentiful in terms of apps that I use. The only things I miss are GTA Chinatown Wars and SF IV on the go or while on breaks at work..

Other than that, I use Google Listen for Podcasts, MixZing as my music player, and a mix of several other apps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg (give it a minute!)

gut;405952 wrote:Apple needs VZW a lot more the VZW needs Apple, IMO. But one would think VZW is salivating over all those potential new customers. Google, at this point, would care little either way with Android firmly entrenched and continuing to grow rapidly.

I think that you are spot on with this. Most would agree that Verizon has the best all around network right now (when you consider size, speed, and reliability) and they are pretty firmly fixed atop the hill has the nation's largest wireless provider. The biggest obstacle to the iPhone coming to Verizon is Verizon's unwillingness to give into some of Apple's demands (like not allowing Verizon to give their New-Every-Two discount on iPhones), and I applaud them for that. This just shows that Verizon is well aware of the fact that Apple needs them far more than they need Apple. The number of customers they have lost to AT&T specifically because of the iPhone is probably pretty inconsequential in their eyes, but like you said, the number of new customers they would get from AT&T if they had the iPhone is probably more significant.

The big advantage for Android (and why I wouldn't be surprised if it passes the iPhone soon) is the fact that it is available on all major networks, and not just one like the iPhone. It is also available on a number of different phones at a number of different price points, making it accessible to more people. The fact that it is open is a big deal as well, because it allows more people to create apps, and it allows for more creative and interactive apps as well. I also wouldn't underestimate the impact that Flash support will have on Android either. Android just seems to have a much higher ceiling and seems to be able to grow, expand, and improve at a much faster rate than the iPhone.

gut;405959 wrote:Would have gotten an IPhone a year or two ago but swtiching to AT&T was simply not an option. Have a Droid now and will probably never switch from the Android OS.

This is PC vs. Apple all over again. There will continue to be strong markets for both. People who want a nice, pre-defined UI will choose IPhone. People who want to control their own user experience will stick with Android. And, over time, the two will probably come to resemble each other more closely than we realize.

You're right, this is exactly like Mac vs. Windows. Apple writes their own operating system that can only be run on their computer, and programming is difficult because it is a much more closed off system that is very closely controlled by Apple. The iPhone OS only runs in the iPhone with they produce and all apps have to be written in a limiting language and must be approved by Apple. With Windows the OS runs on many computers built by multiple manufacturers, with a much more open format allowing for greater software creation. Android runs on multiple phones made by multiple manufacturers (making it more affordable) and it is open allowing more people to write more creative apps. Just like with the computers, Apple was the dominant machine early on but was eventually passed by Windows because of it's affordability and compatibility. I think the same will happen here, where the iPhone has the early lead, but I expect Android to eventually pass it and never look back.

I think we may see some things about the two platforms begin to look similar, but I don't think that they'll ever come close to looking the same. Apple is too stubborn and too closed off to allow their product to resemble Android too closely which is ultimately what will hurt them because Android will evolve more rapidly.

gut;406015 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg (give it a minute!)

This video was HILARIOUS!

raiderbuck;375401 wrote:Umm...no

It's the reason why we have so many smart phone options now. No one gave a crap about Apps, until The App Store dropped. RIM had an APP store, but they didn't know wtf they were doing with it on BBs.

Wrong.. Palm and RIM is the reason there are smart phone options. BB and Treo's started off way before Apple did. App Store was Apple's but you could get Apps for the Treo and BB with your PC.

Nate;406292 wrote:Wrong.. Palm and RIM is the reason there are smart phone options. BB and Treo's started off way before Apple did. App Store was Apple's but you could get Apps for the Treo and BB with your PC.

Correct. Blackberry started everything with their first phone that could do email, then the Palm Treo was the first real smart phone out there. The the iPhone revolutionized it. Basically Blackberry invented the smart phone, Palm revolutionized it and made it see its full potential, then Apple revolutionized it again. Every smart phone today owes itself to these three phones.

krambman;406272 wrote:

This video was HILARIOUS!

..."not only are you so bat-shit stupid that you still want this phone..."

It's 3G and has the Wifis.

sherm03;405903 wrote:Interesting timing on the article...this article drops the same day the iPhone 4 starts selling at stores?

Kind of smells like a stunt to try to stifle iPhone 4 sales to me. It just seems odd that Verizon would slam the iPhone in ads and pump up the Android phones as devices that are far and away better than anything Apple has produced...and then turn around and start selling it in their stores. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Ya and the Yankees hated Johnny Damon, until he was a Yankee.

sherm03;405903 wrote:Interesting timing on the article...this article drops the same day the iPhone 4 starts selling at stores?

Kind of smells like a stunt to try to stifle iPhone 4 sales to me. It just seems odd that Verizon would slam the iPhone in ads and pump up the Android phones as devices that are far and away better than anything Apple has produced...and then turn around and start selling it in their stores. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

You have that backwards. It doesn't seem odd that Verizon would run adds slamming the iPhone for what it can't do and promote Android as being far superior, then turn around and sell the very iPhone they were belittling. Verizon really doesn't care which is the better phone, they care about making money. It does, however, seem odd that Apple would see how much they were slammed by Verizon and then turn around and want to sell their device on the Verizon network.

krambman;407267 wrote:You have that backwards. It doesn't seem odd that Verizon would run adds slamming the iPhone for what it can't do and promote Android as being far superior, then turn around and sell the very iPhone they were belittling. Verizon really doesn't care which is the better phone, they care about making money. It does, however, seem odd that Apple would see how much they were slammed by Verizon and then turn around and want to sell their device on the Verizon network.

Touche.

haha i liked this one too. a little longer though.[video=youtube;dZbTxpv97Qc][/video]

Weekend iPhone Rumors: Apple ordering “hoards” of CDMA chips, AT&T SEC filing hints at loss of exclusivity?

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/08/09/weekend-iphone-rumors/
The iPhone 4 has been out for well over a month now, so it is only natural that iPhone rumors begin again, no? Over the weekend, two iPhone rumors of interest were spotted on the interwebs. The first comes via blog TechCrunch, TC is reporting that:
Sources with knowledge of this entire situation have assured me that Apple has submitted orders for millions of units of Qualcomm CDMA chipsets for a Verizon iPhone run due in December. This production run would likely be for a January launch, and I’d bet the phone is nearly 100% consistent with the current iPhone 4 (with a fixed internal insulator on the antenna).
We’ll let you decide how feasible a Verizon iPhone in December is, it isn’t like we’ve ever heard that before.
The next rumor come courtesy of an SEC filing from AT&T. In the filing, dated June 30th, the company writes:
In addition, offering a number of attractive handsets on an exclusive basis distinguishes us from our competitors. As these exclusivity arrangements end, we expect to continue to offer such handsets (based on historical industry practice), and we believe our service plan offerings will help to retain our customers by providing incentives not to move to a new carrier.
The rub here is that the only device that AT&T has exclusivity on, that would be worth mentioning in an SEC filing, is the iPhone (sorry BlackBerry Torch).
As with all rumors, these should be taken with a heavy dose of NaCl (that’s salt), they are rumors after all.