derek bomar wrote:

ManO'War wrote: I agree with Sherm's comment.

And after living in Florida for a decade, and traveling all around, for anyone to think that one part of Ohio is better than another is insane....it is all the same!!!

No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

ernest_t_bass wrote: Lima

sonofsam wrote: Have always been impressed with the Marietta/Belpre area.

THE4RINGZ wrote: Stubenville.

sherm03 wrote: Columbus may be better than Cincinnati or Cleveland...but it still sucks.

Unemployment is high in this state, the weather blows for 7-9 months out of the year, the pro teams always disappoint (with the exception of the Reds this year...but we'll see how long that lasts), AND you have to deal with homer Buckeye fans.

The only thing that Ohio really has going for it is some of the best high school football in the country. But we all know that you can't find that in Columbus.

Bottom line...Ohio pretty much sucks. And I stand by my earlier statement. Being the best city in Ohio isn't anything to be all excited about.

krambman wrote: Yeah, this isn't at all what this thread is about. I don't think that anyone here is saying that Columbus is the greatest city on the world or that Ohio is the best state in the union. We're simply asking which city is the best in Ohio. That's all.

sherm03 wrote:

krambman wrote: Yeah, this isn't at all what this thread is about. I don't think that anyone here is saying that Columbus is the greatest city on the world or that Ohio is the best state in the union. We're simply asking which city is the best in Ohio. That's all.

I know what the thread is about. I'm just saying that I think any city in Ohio is of equal suck-itude due to the fact that it is in Ohio.

sherm03 wrote:

krambman wrote: Yeah, this isn't at all what this thread is about. I don't think that anyone here is saying that Columbus is the greatest city on the world or that Ohio is the best state in the union. We're simply asking which city is the best in Ohio. That's all.

I know what the thread is about. I'm just saying that I think any city in Ohio is of equal suck-itude due to the fact that it is in Ohio.

hrspeedmerchant wrote: Best city? Depends upon what you're looking for and what you enjoy doing. Columbus is probably the best for a young person because of the presence of OSU and the city's job opportunities. The Brewery District and Short North are great tourist draws. If you seek diversity and culture it would be hard to beat Cleveland. Not many cities the size of Cleveland can top that city's world class museums and orchestra. Plus, the many ethnic areas and great restaurants in Cleveland are intriguing. The few times I've been to Cincinnati I enjoyed it. The downtown is great and the riverfront parks are excellent.

All three cities have something to offer.

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

Maybe not for you but it is for a lot of people who purchase season tickets and enjoy going to the games. To push off this opinion as fact otherwise is retarded.

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

Maybe not for you but it is for a lot of people who purchase season tickets and enjoy going to the games. To push off this opinion as fact otherwise is retarded.

derek bomar wrote:

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

Maybe not for you but it is for a lot of people who purchase season tickets and enjoy going to the games. To push off this opinion as fact otherwise is retarded.

What % of people in any given city with professional sports teams have season tix or feel that the reason their city is awesome is because of Pro Sports? I bet it's not a high %...now, the flip side is I bet nobody thinks having pro sports is a bad thing (insignificant amount), but the majority of people in a given city don't base whether the city they live in is awesome or not on the fact that they may or may not have a baseball/football/bball team

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

Maybe not for you but it is for a lot of people who purchase season tickets and enjoy going to the games. To push off this opinion as fact otherwise is retarded.

What % of people in any given city with professional sports teams have season tix or feel that the reason their city is awesome is because of Pro Sports? I bet it's not a high %...now, the flip side is I bet nobody thinks having pro sports is a bad thing (insignificant amount), but the majority of people in a given city don't base whether the city they live in is awesome or not on the fact that they may or may not have a baseball/football/bball team

Definitely a higher percentage than people who live in a city and have memberships to an art gallery or feel a city is awesome b/c it has an opera house. It's no secret that professional sports have a huge market in the entertainment industry. Much more so than any art industry.

krazie45 wrote:

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

Maybe not for you but it is for a lot of people who purchase season tickets and enjoy going to the games. To push off this opinion as fact otherwise is retarded.

Well Columbus offers certainly an ecclectic group of Pro Sports. Don't forget that 2 NFL teams, 2 MLB teams, and an NBA team are all within 2 hours. Not sure how many more cities can say that.

As for directly in Columbus there are a few options:

The Columbus Crew is the best pro team in Ohio having just won the championship 2 years ago and are well on their way to a 3rd straight Supporters' shield. I don't even like soccer and I have fun at Crew games. They're affordable, the fans in the nordecke are crazier than any other venue in the state (including the dog pound), and you're watching professional soccer in a beautiful stadium. Anyone about to bash the Crew probably has never been to a game.

Though the Blue Jackets have had a rocky first decade success-wide, it's again a fun environment to be in. Nationwide is the best arena in Ohio, and the Arena District is full of great bars and restaurants. Again, you're seeing pro hockey in a beautiful venue. I don't even like hockey and I enjoy Blue Jackets games.

The Clippers have a roster that (sadly) rivals that of the Indians and have a beautiful brand new ballpark right downtown in the booming arena district. The team is actually pretty good and the prices are incredibly affordable.

So basically, Zwick I have to disagree with your point.

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

krazie45 wrote:

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

Maybe not for you but it is for a lot of people who purchase season tickets and enjoy going to the games. To push off this opinion as fact otherwise is retarded.

Well Columbus offers certainly an ecclectic group of Pro Sports. Don't forget that 2 NFL teams, 2 MLB teams, and an NBA team are all within 2 hours. Not sure how many more cities can say that.

As for directly in Columbus there are a few options:

The Columbus Crew is the best pro team in Ohio having just won the championship 2 years ago and are well on their way to a 3rd straight Supporters' shield. I don't even like soccer and I have fun at Crew games. They're affordable, the fans in the nordecke are crazier than any other venue in the state (including the dog pound), and you're watching professional soccer in a beautiful stadium. Anyone about to bash the Crew probably has never been to a game.

Though the Blue Jackets have had a rocky first decade success-wide, it's again a fun environment to be in. Nationwide is the best arena in Ohio, and the Arena District is full of great bars and restaurants. Again, you're seeing pro hockey in a beautiful venue. I don't even like hockey and I enjoy Blue Jackets games.

The Clippers have a roster that (sadly) rivals that of the Indians and have a beautiful brand new ballpark right downtown in the booming arena district. The team is actually pretty good and the prices are incredibly affordable.

So basically, Zwick I have to disagree with your point.

So you'd rather drive 2 hours to a game and 2 hours back home instead of walking or taking a short cab ride? No thanks. Columbus is cool for one thing... OSU football games. I'd rather go to an Indians, Cavs, and Browns games year round than have 7 or 8 Buckeye games a year.

derek bomar wrote:

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

Maybe not for you but it is for a lot of people who purchase season tickets and enjoy going to the games. To push off this opinion as fact otherwise is retarded.

What % of people in any given city with professional sports teams have season tix or feel that the reason their city is awesome is because of Pro Sports? I bet it's not a high %...now, the flip side is I bet nobody thinks having pro sports is a bad thing (insignificant amount), but the majority of people in a given city don't base whether the city they live in is awesome or not on the fact that they may or may not have a baseball/football/bball team

Definitely a higher percentage than people who live in a city and have memberships to an art gallery or feel a city is awesome b/c it has an opera house. It's no secret that professional sports have a huge market in the entertainment industry. Much more so than any art industry.

It may be more than art, but is it more than art, food, education, shopping, safety, jobs, etc... combined? It's not the majority of the reason, it isn't even close.

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

Maybe not for you but it is for a lot of people who purchase season tickets and enjoy going to the games. To push off this opinion as fact otherwise is retarded.

What % of people in any given city with professional sports teams have season tix or feel that the reason their city is awesome is because of Pro Sports? I bet it's not a high %...now, the flip side is I bet nobody thinks having pro sports is a bad thing (insignificant amount), but the majority of people in a given city don't base whether the city they live in is awesome or not on the fact that they may or may not have a baseball/football/bball team

Definitely a higher percentage than people who live in a city and have memberships to an art gallery or feel a city is awesome b/c it has an opera house. It's no secret that professional sports have a huge market in the entertainment industry. Much more so than any art industry.

It may be more than art, but is it more than art, food, education, shopping, safety, jobs, etc... combined? It's not the majority of the reason, it isn't even close.

And Cleveland and Cincy don't have art, food, shopping, jobs? And Safety? lol come on now. I've only had my car broken into once in my life and it was at OSU. Never in the countless times of being at CWR and John Carrol. You act like Columbus is immune from trouble.

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

krazie45 wrote:

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:

derek bomar wrote:
No, no it is not. Columbus is so much better than Cleveland or Cincy it isn't even funny. Pro Sports isn't what makes a city.

Maybe not for you but it is for a lot of people who purchase season tickets and enjoy going to the games. To push off this opinion as fact otherwise is retarded.

Well Columbus offers certainly an ecclectic group of Pro Sports. Don't forget that 2 NFL teams, 2 MLB teams, and an NBA team are all within 2 hours. Not sure how many more cities can say that.

As for directly in Columbus there are a few options:

The Columbus Crew is the best pro team in Ohio having just won the championship 2 years ago and are well on their way to a 3rd straight Supporters' shield. I don't even like soccer and I have fun at Crew games. They're affordable, the fans in the nordecke are crazier than any other venue in the state (including the dog pound), and you're watching professional soccer in a beautiful stadium. Anyone about to bash the Crew probably has never been to a game.

Though the Blue Jackets have had a rocky first decade success-wide, it's again a fun environment to be in. Nationwide is the best arena in Ohio, and the Arena District is full of great bars and restaurants. Again, you're seeing pro hockey in a beautiful venue. I don't even like hockey and I enjoy Blue Jackets games.

The Clippers have a roster that (sadly) rivals that of the Indians and have a beautiful brand new ballpark right downtown in the booming arena district. The team is actually pretty good and the prices are incredibly affordable.

So basically, Zwick I have to disagree with your point.

So you'd rather drive 2 hours to a game and 2 hours back home instead of walking or taking a short cab ride? No thanks. Columbus is cool for one thing... OSU football games. I'd rather go to an Indians, Cavs, and Browns games year round than have 7 or 8 Buckeye games a year.