j_crazy wrote: I try to stay away from Murphy/Walmart (cheap/poor quality), Citgo, and Chevron (because they import a lot of oil from Venezuela).

I prefer Shell or BP gasoline (think it burns better/cleaner). I always by Sunoco when I can (US owned, NO imported oil. I love that).

Fab1b wrote: I won't sit and pretend to be an oil expert but you can't tell me the consumer hasn't been shafted with prices. Whether is the oil companies, govts, etc...someone is sticking us.

Shane Falco wrote:

j_crazy wrote: I try to stay away from Murphy/Walmart (cheap/poor quality), Citgo, and Chevron (because they import a lot of oil from Venezuela).

I prefer Shell or BP gasoline (think it burns better/cleaner). I always by Sunoco when I can (US owned, NO imported oil. I love that).

Sorry, But the trucks that drop gas at WallyWorld, Kroger, Meijer, Circle K, Fuel Mart, etc, load at the same Rack/Terminal as the trucks that drop at Sunoco, BP, Marathon, etc.

I have loaded my truck at a Marathon rack, and the guy in front of me is headed to a Sams, and the guy loading behind me is headed to a Kroger.
I can load at a Sunoco terminal with guys headed to a BP and with Marathon trucks loading right behind them headed to a Marathon station. Same with a BP terminal, a Husky terminal, Shell, Citgo, It all depends on who has the rack/terminal price that day. The gas at the Walmart is in no poorer quality than the Shell across the street. But you can do what ever makes you feel better!

j_crazy wrote:

cbus4life wrote:

j_crazy wrote: I try to stay away from Murphy/Walmart (cheap/poor quality), Citgo, and Chevron (because they import a lot of oil from Venezuela).

I prefer Shell or BP gasoline (think it burns better/cleaner). I always by Sunoco when I can (US owned, NO imported oil. I love that).

I thought BP had at least a little bit of involvement in Venezuela.

Maybe not importaing and the like yet, but they do have staff there and are taking part in exploration and the like.

http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=498&contentId=2000746

But, don't really know what all that entails. Do you?

I'm sure they do, but with Citgo it's like 90% of their oil coming from VZ and Chevron its like 50%.

kritzell wrote:

Shane Falco wrote:

j_crazy wrote: I try to stay away from Murphy/Walmart (cheap/poor quality), Citgo, and Chevron (because they import a lot of oil from Venezuela).

I prefer Shell or BP gasoline (think it burns better/cleaner). I always by Sunoco when I can (US owned, NO imported oil. I love that).

Sorry, But the trucks that drop gas at WallyWorld, Kroger, Meijer, Circle K, Fuel Mart, etc, load at the same Rack/Terminal as the trucks that drop at Sunoco, BP, Marathon, etc.

I have loaded my truck at a Marathon rack, and the guy in front of me is headed to a Sams, and the guy loading behind me is headed to a Kroger.
I can load at a Sunoco terminal with guys headed to a BP and with Marathon trucks loading right behind them headed to a Marathon station. Same with a BP terminal, a Husky terminal, Shell, Citgo, It all depends on who has the rack/terminal price that day. The gas at the Walmart is in no poorer quality than the Shell across the street. But you can do what ever makes you feel better!

I put nothing but 93 octane V-Power in my car and bike.

http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa/products_services/on_the_road/fuels/shell_vpower/about_vpower/

Shane Falco wrote:

kritzell wrote:

Shane Falco wrote:

j_crazy wrote: I try to stay away from Murphy/Walmart (cheap/poor quality), Citgo, and Chevron (because they import a lot of oil from Venezuela).

I prefer Shell or BP gasoline (think it burns better/cleaner). I always by Sunoco when I can (US owned, NO imported oil. I love that).

Sorry, But the trucks that drop gas at WallyWorld, Kroger, Meijer, Circle K, Fuel Mart, etc, load at the same Rack/Terminal as the trucks that drop at Sunoco, BP, Marathon, etc.

I have loaded my truck at a Marathon rack, and the guy in front of me is headed to a Sams, and the guy loading behind me is headed to a Kroger.
I can load at a Sunoco terminal with guys headed to a BP and with Marathon trucks loading right behind them headed to a Marathon station. Same with a BP terminal, a Husky terminal, Shell, Citgo, It all depends on who has the rack/terminal price that day. The gas at the Walmart is in no poorer quality than the Shell across the street. But you can do what ever makes you feel better!

I put nothing but 93 octane V-Power in my car and bike.

http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa/products_services/on_the_road/fuels/shell_vpower/about_vpower/

I just hauled some "nitrogen enriched v-power premium" today from the Sunoco terminal in Toledo. It didn't go to a Shell or a Walmart (I dont haul to those), but it is in Findlay! "Nitro enriched" simply means it has ethynol in it.
Glad you pay the extra coin for it!

Fab1b wrote: I won't sit and pretend to be an oil expert but you can't tell me the consumer hasn't been shafted with prices. Whether is the oil companies, govts, etc...someone is sticking us.

Firad wrote: Yeah I'm not filling up at BP anymore. I gonna start going to PB instead.

jmog wrote:

Fab1b wrote: I won't sit and pretend to be an oil expert but you can't tell me the consumer hasn't been shafted with prices. Whether is the oil companies, govts, etc...someone is sticking us.

Considering the oil company makes about $0.27 per gallon profit and the government taxes (state+feds) range from $0.26-$0.50 depending on what state you live in...I'll let you decide on where the blame for "sticking it to us" lies.

FYI, here in Ohio a total of $0.44 is taxes ($0.18 feds, $0.26 Ohio).

So, the government is making more per gallon of gas than the "big evil oil" companies are.

FYI, the government is also making more per pack of cigarettes than the tobacco companies are as well.

Shane Falco wrote:
I just hauled some "nitrogen enriched v-power premium" today from the Sunoco terminal in Toledo. It didn't go to a Shell or a Walmart (I dont haul to those), but it is in Findlay! "Nitro enriched" simply means it has ethynol in it.
Glad you pay the extra coin for it!

Fab1b wrote:

jmog wrote:

Fab1b wrote: I won't sit and pretend to be an oil expert but you can't tell me the consumer hasn't been shafted with prices. Whether is the oil companies, govts, etc...someone is sticking us.

Considering the oil company makes about $0.27 per gallon profit and the government taxes (state+feds) range from $0.26-$0.50 depending on what state you live in...I'll let you decide on where the blame for "sticking it to us" lies.

FYI, here in Ohio a total of $0.44 is taxes ($0.18 feds, $0.26 Ohio).

So, the government is making more per gallon of gas than the "big evil oil" companies are.

FYI, the government is also making more per pack of cigarettes than the tobacco companies are as well.

Fair enough, like I said someone is sticking it to us so yes the govt is more than these companies but bottom line is we are getting stuck. I don't have a problem with oil companies, we need them of course but their deals with govts and nations are shady to say the least. I for one understand its a fact of life though and if I want to go somewhere in my gas guzzling SUV I have to pay for it, so be it, just doesn't mean I have to like them, the govt, or anyone involved for that matter.

I am just against boycotting if it affects American workers period!

Fab1b wrote: I know its not just oil, but unlike a TV, you need to purchase gas.

Fab1b wrote: I know its not just oil, but unlike a TV, you need to purchase gas.

Fab1b wrote: Technically yes, but I ain't Amish

Shane Falco wrote:

j_crazy wrote: I try to stay away from Murphy/Walmart (cheap/poor quality), Citgo, and Chevron (because they import a lot of oil from Venezuela).

I prefer Shell or BP gasoline (think it burns better/cleaner). I always by Sunoco when I can (US owned, NO imported oil. I love that).

Sorry, But the trucks that drop gas at WallyWorld, Kroger, Meijer, Circle K, Fuel Mart, etc, load at the same Rack/Terminal as the trucks that drop at Sunoco, BP, Marathon, etc.

I have loaded my truck at a Marathon rack, and the guy in front of me is headed to a Sams, and the guy loading behind me is headed to a Kroger.
I can load at a Sunoco terminal with guys headed to a BP and with Marathon trucks loading right behind them headed to a Marathon station. Same with a BP terminal, a Husky terminal, Shell, Citgo, It all depends on who has the rack/terminal price that day. The gas at the Walmart is in no poorer quality than the Shell across the street. But you can do what ever makes you feel better!