redstreak one wrote: I simply added a few examples, dont give a rats rear end what you think about my examples its my point that I was trying to get across. That point being, no one culture can say undoubtebly that they are original on anything they do. All have borrowed, so stop trying to trivialize American culture away as an excuse for these students being punished for wearing an American symbol. I will not apologize for being born White!

What does that have to do with anything?

bc, wasnt directing the culture comment at you but syl as well. I am reading between the lines on some posters comments on here, it has a history of getting me in trouble, but I dont care! lol

Haha, it's cool.

redstreak one wrote: bc, wasnt directing the culture comment at you but syl as well. I am reading between the lines on some posters comments on here, it has a history of getting me in trouble, but I dont care! lol

Fair enough. I see that now.

Anyone living in the United States who is offended by the American flag should be deported IMMEDIATELY!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_contributions#B

You really think no one tossed a ball through a hoop until the 1800's???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football#History

Of course American football was basically rugby when it first began in the UNITED KINGDOM.....

Strapping Young Lad wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_contributions#B

You really think no one tossed a ball through a hoop until the 1800's???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_football#History

Of course American football was basically rugby when it first began in the UNITED KINGDOM.....

Did you even read your own links?

The first cites Mesoamerican ballgame, but provides no source. When you link to Mesoamerican ballgame, it makes no mention of being a precursor to basketball anywhere in the entry.

The second states, "The history of American football can be traced to early versions of rugby football and association football. Both games have their origins in varieties of football played in the United Kingdom in the mid-19th century, in which a ball is kicked at a goal and/or run over a line."
It seems like you have a point...UNTIL YOU READ THE VERY NEXT LINE!!
"Many games known as "football" were being played at colleges and universities in the United States in the first half of the 19th century.

take it to the sports forums.

LJ wrote: take it to the sports forums.

lol, never thought I'd see that here.

LJ wrote: take it to the sports forums.

Really? Our argument isn't so much about sports, but the history of certain cultural practices and their origins. It just so happpens that the cultural practices brought up as an example happen to be sports.

BCBulldog wrote:

Strapping Young Lad wrote:Then after you nationalize everyone and all you have to show for yourself is a boring sport (football was a foreign game first and basketball was Native American, I think)

Wow, that was a decent post until you made this dumbass remark. You are exactly wrong. Baseball is the sport most likely to have been played on foreign soil first as it is believed to be an adaptation of the British sport rounders with potential influences from cricket, stoolball, la soule, théque, la balle au bâton, and la balle empoisonée. Football, as we know it, was in fact an American adaptation of rugby with influences of soccer, but it was undoubtedly an American creation. Basketball was invented by Dr. James Naismith in December 1891 in Springfield, Massachusetts. There is no evidence of it being derived from any other sport including Mesoamerican ballgame.

this thread is nothing without strapping young lad so......wasnt there some Mayan or Aztec game where they took someone's head and tried to "score" points by putting it through a hole in the wall.

I think there was a game where they set someone's head on fire and played hockey with it.

queencitybuckeye wrote:

Strapping Young Lad wrote: Definatley, but when you come to school with the obvious intent to piss off a bunch of Hispanics, on a Hispanic holiday, in a school with a Hispanic principle then I guess the principle has the right to make a judgement call on how best to diffuse the potentially viloent situation. Guess who the Hispanic principal sided with on a Hispanic holiday in a school where a bunch of Hispanic students were celebrating A HOLIDAY THAT MANY AMERICANS HAVE ADOPTED if only for an excuse to drink.



But of course the little angels were only showing what patriotic patriots they were.....poor little victim patriots. GTFO.

If someone wearing a flag of their country on that country's soil is offended, they are the ones with the problem. This is the correct answer for anyone with functioning gray matter.

The thread could have ended here. How ^$%#ed are we if people attending our public schools are potentially offended by people wearing a symbolization of the people that pay for the schools?

This whole story just amazes me.