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Go_Fast_Sports

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Nov 18, 2009 7:48 PM
A good friend of mine has a coyote problem, and is afraid their Labs will get eaten by the thing looking like it has rabies.

Are you legally allowed to shoot the thing on your property?

what are other ways to get rid of it without trapping or killing it?
Nov 18, 2009 7:48pm
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LJ

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Nov 18, 2009 7:49 PM
Go_Fast_Sports wrote: A good friend of mine has a coyote problem, and is afraid their Labs will get eaten by the thing looking like it has rabies.

Are you legally allowed to shoot the thing on your property?

what are other ways to get rid of it without trapping or killing it?
No season and no limit for Coyotes.

In other words, shoot away.
Nov 18, 2009 7:49pm
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Al Capone

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Nov 18, 2009 8:00 PM
They even offer a bounty where I live. Kill em all!
Nov 18, 2009 8:00pm
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Nov 18, 2009 8:02 PM
No. He mostly stays on the football forum.

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Nov 18, 2009 8:02pm
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coyotes22

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Nov 18, 2009 8:05 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^

ha ha ha ha ha
Nov 18, 2009 8:05pm
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coyotes22

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Nov 18, 2009 8:06 PM
Go_Fast_Sports wrote: A good friend of mine has a coyote problem, and is afraid their Labs will get eaten by the thing looking like it has rabies.

Are you legally allowed to shoot the thing on your property?

what are other ways to get rid of it without trapping or killing it?
Just talk to him, no reason to get violent. He is prolly just hungry, or lonely!!!



:D
Nov 18, 2009 8:06pm
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Nov 18, 2009 8:08 PM
LJ is correct ...... you can shoot as many as you want.

Where is friend located ... I have a couple friends that would probably come shoot them for him if he doesn't want to do it himself.
Nov 18, 2009 8:08pm
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Nov 18, 2009 8:09 PM
coyotes22 wrote:
Go_Fast_Sports wrote: A good friend of mine has a coyote problem, and is afraid their Labs will get eaten by the thing looking like it has rabies.

Are you legally allowed to shoot the thing on your property?

what are other ways to get rid of it without trapping or killing it?
Just talk to him, no reason to get violent. He is prolly just hungry, or lonely!!!



:D
You crack me up!!!!!
Nov 18, 2009 8:09pm
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Nov 18, 2009 8:19 PM
I know that my neighbor has been keeping an eye on his horses, especially when it comes time for foaling. Every year it seems as those you can hear their yips and cries come closer and closer.
Nov 18, 2009 8:19pm
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Nov 18, 2009 9:53 PM
CenterBHSFan wrote: I know that my neighbor has been keeping an eye on his horses, especially when it comes time for foaling. Every year it seems as those you can hear their yips and cries come closer and closer.
A full size brood mare could fight off a coyote. Hell, sheep farmers use attack llamas to protect the herds from Coyotes.

I usually hunt them around waterfowl season because I will take my limit on geese, cut out the breasts, then bait the coyotes with the carcasses
Nov 18, 2009 9:53pm
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Nov 21, 2009 11:21 AM
LJ wrote:

A full size brood mare could fight off a coyote. Hell, sheep farmers use attack llamas to protect the herds from Coyotes.

I usually hunt them around waterfowl season because I will take my limit on geese, cut out the breasts, then bait the coyotes with the carcasses
What a cruel, cruel, cruel world!!!
Nov 21, 2009 11:21am
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GoChiefs

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Nov 21, 2009 11:49 AM
coyotes22 wrote: What a cruel, cruel, cruel world!!!
You're the dumbass that falls for it!!
Nov 21, 2009 11:49am
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coyotes22

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Nov 21, 2009 12:32 PM
Are you talking to me?

ARE YOU TALKING TO ME!!!!!!!!
Nov 21, 2009 12:32pm
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Nov 21, 2009 12:40 PM
You cannot trap without a trapping license...to my knowledge.

But yes, open hunting season year round.
Nov 21, 2009 12:40pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:35 AM
Just call Mike Vick.
Nov 23, 2009 1:35am
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Nov 23, 2009 2:30 AM
LJ wrote:
CenterBHSFan wrote: I know that my neighbor has been keeping an eye on his horses, especially when it comes time for foaling. Every year it seems as those you can hear their yips and cries come closer and closer.
A full size brood mare could fight off a coyote. Hell, sheep farmers use attack llamas to protect the herds from Coyotes.

I usually hunt them around waterfowl season because I will take my limit on geese, cut out the breasts, then bait the coyotes with the carcasses
Geese are annoying, but the worthless garbage (mostly raccoons and possums) make better bait. No limit on gunning those bastards down, which both thins their population and then makes great 'yote bait.
Nov 23, 2009 2:30am
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Nov 23, 2009 2:36 AM
LJ wrote:
CenterBHSFan wrote: I know that my neighbor has been keeping an eye on his horses, especially when it comes time for foaling. Every year it seems as those you can hear their yips and cries come closer and closer.
A full size brood mare could fight off a coyote. Hell, sheep farmers use attack llamas to protect the herds from Coyotes.

I usually hunt them around waterfowl season because I will take my limit on geese, cut out the breasts, then bait the coyotes with the carcasses
Attack llamas? Where do I get one???
Nov 23, 2009 2:36am
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Nov 23, 2009 6:44 AM
No coyotes problems, but we do have roadrunner problems
Nov 23, 2009 6:44am
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matdad

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Nov 23, 2009 12:25 PM
Coyote problems. Actually, a seemingly overabundance of coyotes is not the problem but rather a symptom of the problem. The real problem is an overabundance of game animals.

God or nature, whichever you believe in, designed it so that the number of animals, in this case deer, in each habitat do not exceed the carrying capacity of that habitat. In other words, each habitat, woods, fields, etc. can only hold a certain number of species within the balance of it. When the number of deer exceeds the carrying capacity of the habitat, which is happening in most urban areas across our state, the competition for food and shelter levies great stress on the herd. God or nature, has set things in place to naturally get the number of animals back into the balance of the carrying capacity.
Predation is the first tactic that is used. Since many of the deers natural predators, wolf and mountain lion, have been killed off in Ohio, the only remaining predators left are man and coyote. With so much hunting being banned in urban areas, that pretty much leaves the coyote as the only natural predator left to do God's or natures word of decreasing the number of animals so as to balance the carrying capacity again.
Why were coyotes not a problem in Ohio until the early 1990's? Because our deer herd was in check up until then. Gradually, we now have "coyote problems" because the deer herd is exceeding the carrying capacity of many habitats, especially urban ones.
When you see coyotes eating deer carcasses we mistakenly think that the coyotes have dragged down and killed a perfectly healthy deer and will therefore, wipe out the deer herd. Actually, coyotes usually only kill sick or wounded deer. I have witnessed even a young doe chase off an adult coyote. The truth is that coyotes are only killing the excess deer from the habitat. A mature whitetail deer that is healthy is not at risk from coyote attack. Yes, the coyotes will attack and eat young deer but that is how God or nature intended it to be. We see this same thing in Africa and everywhere else.
The second "technique" that God or nature uses to reduce the numbers of animals who are out of balance with the carrying capacity of a habitat is disease. Unfortunately, we have seen an increased number of diseases that are killing hundreds of deer in our state, the deer that the predators are not killing. Chronic Wasting Disease is just one of these.
If urban areas would allow more hunting of deer (archery) they could reduce the number of overpopulated deer while probably turning a profit at the same time.
Coyotes, while admittedly fun to shoot, are really helping the deer herd to stay in acceptable numbers and ultimately, to stay strong. You may even say that coyotes are a deer's best friend. After all, I have watched a doe run off even her own offspring from a food plot in the winter when food is more scarce.
Nov 23, 2009 12:25pm
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Nov 23, 2009 12:47 PM
matdad wrote: Coyote problems. Actually, a seemingly overabundance of coyotes is not the problem but rather a symptom of the problem. The real problem is an overabundance of game animals.

God or nature, whichever you believe in, designed it so that the number of animals, in this case deer, in each habitat do not exceed the carrying capacity of that habitat. In other words, each habitat, woods, fields, etc. can only hold a certain number of species within the balance of it. When the number of deer exceeds the carrying capacity of the habitat, which is happening in most urban areas across our state, the competition for food and shelter levies great stress on the herd. God or nature, has set things in place to naturally get the number of animals back into the balance of the carrying capacity.
Predation is the first tactic that is used. Since many of the deers natural predators, wolf and mountain lion, have been killed off in Ohio, the only remaining predators left are man and coyote. With so much hunting being banned in urban areas, that pretty much leaves the coyote as the only natural predator left to do God's or natures word of decreasing the number of animals so as to balance the carrying capacity again.
Why were coyotes not a problem in Ohio until the early 1990's? Because our deer herd was in check up until then. Gradually, we now have "coyote problems" because the deer herd is exceeding the carrying capacity of many habitats, especially urban ones.
When you see coyotes eating deer carcasses we mistakenly think that the coyotes have dragged down and killed a perfectly healthy deer and will therefore, wipe out the deer herd. Actually, coyotes usually only kill sick or wounded deer. I have witnessed even a young doe chase off an adult coyote. The truth is that coyotes are only killing the excess deer from the habitat. A mature whitetail deer that is healthy is not at risk from coyote attack. Yes, the coyotes will attack and eat young deer but that is how God or nature intended it to be. We see this same thing in Africa and everywhere else.
The second "technique" that God or nature uses to reduce the numbers of animals who are out of balance with the carrying capacity of a habitat is disease. Unfortunately, we have seen an increased number of diseases that are killing hundreds of deer in our state, the deer that the predators are not killing. Chronic Wasting Disease is just one of these.
If urban areas would allow more hunting of deer (archery) they could reduce the number of overpopulated deer while probably turning a profit at the same time.
Coyotes, while admittedly fun to shoot, are really helping the deer herd to stay in acceptable numbers and ultimately, to stay strong. You may even say that coyotes are a deer's best friend. After all, I have watched a doe run off even her own offspring from a food plot in the winter when food is more scarce.
If what you said were the case, you wouldn't have coyotes eating as many pets as they do. They are a nuisance animal and are treated as such by the ODNR with no closed season and no bag limit.
Nov 23, 2009 12:47pm
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matdad

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Nov 23, 2009 12:56 PM
^^^^^^
No disagreement from me. A poodle or a house cat is an easy target. Just trying to explain why some places have problems with coyotes.
Nov 23, 2009 12:56pm
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Nov 23, 2009 1:01 PM
matdad wrote: ^^^^^^
No disagreement from me. A poodle or a house cat is an easy target. Just trying to explain why some places have problems with coyotes.
Around me they are eating jack russels, even up to Welsh Corgies. They aren't just eating house cats, they are taking out some of the large barn Tomcats. They can take down a mini horse foal and other small livestock. We are their only real predators, so it is our responsibility to take them out.

That said, if you see Coyotes in your area and no one around isn't really having a problem with them, it's best to leave them alone. They are territorial, and if you kill off a good one, you may have a bad one move in.
Nov 23, 2009 1:01pm
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Nov 23, 2009 5:47 PM
not me but know people that do
Nov 23, 2009 5:47pm
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hang_loose

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Nov 23, 2009 9:17 PM
There was a young woman killed by a couple coyotes in Canada just recently. Keep an eye on them.
Nov 23, 2009 9:17pm