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Apr 29, 2013 3:52 PM
Commander of Awesome;1435706 wrote:I dont agree with you. Weeden didn't tank. Browns got Shurmured. We're going to be a much more competitive team this year. I expect Weeden to look halfway decent this year, hell even top 16 QB.
BR1986FB;1435708 wrote:I agree. One thing I expect to see a helluva lot less of this year is batted down passes. I think with the routes that will be run with this offense we should be less of that.

Would love to see it...just don't think Weeden is any good. I think his ceiling is a Josh freeman. So yes he could definitely be serviceable. But I'm looking for an elite QB on this team, not just serviceable.

I do agree though..without shurmur he'll def be better than how he is now. Shurmur was the worst, straight up.
Apr 29, 2013 3:52pm
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Apr 29, 2013 4:39 PM
Commander of Awesome;1435694 wrote:If weeden tanks, we wont need to, as we'll be picking in the top of the draft. Usually how that works. Hope this helps.
Next year will be a little different, a team will only need to get the #2 pick to get the franchise QB. The #1 pick will be a DE.
Apr 29, 2013 4:39pm
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Apr 29, 2013 4:44 PM
BR1986FB;1435708 wrote:One thing I expect to see a helluva lot less of this year is batted down passes. I think with the routes that will be run with this offense we should be less of that.
One thing I expect is to see a helluva lot less 3 yard passes on 3rd and 8. "They gotta work for the extra yards!!!" :laugh:
Apr 29, 2013 4:44pm
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Apr 29, 2013 4:46 PM
Another thing, now that we've made it through the draft, there are still some solid FA available out there. What would your "wish list" look like from the available FA's?

I would LOVE to steal Brandon Moore away from other teams to plug in at guard, and I think I would also have some interest in a veteran safety, whether it be Woodson, Rhodes, or Barber.

Here's a nice link to peruse the available players... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150953/article/top-40-remaining-nfl-free-agents
Apr 29, 2013 4:46pm
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Apr 29, 2013 4:56 PM
From that list I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Kerry Rhodes, Michael Boley, even maybe Carlos Dansby/NickBarnett for some ILB help behind DQ or even fill a role and Charles Woodson would be intriguing for him being back there at FS with TJ being SS. I know he's getting up there in age and has been injury prone but have to think he'd be a better option than most guys the Browns currently have.
Apr 29, 2013 4:56pm
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Apr 29, 2013 5:02 PM
zach24oz;1435741 wrote:From that list I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Kerry Rhodes, Michael Boley, even maybe Carlos Dansby/NickBarnett for some ILB help behind DQ or even fill a role and Charles Woodson would be intriguing for him being back there at FS with TJ being SS. I know he's getting up there in age and has been injury prone but have to think he'd be a better option than most guys the Browns currently have.
Agreed, and I would REALLY love some veteran leadership in the secondary that knows what it takes to be a championship caliber team. Haden is a stud, but it would be nice to have a vocal leader other than DQ to assume some of that responsibility.
Apr 29, 2013 5:02pm
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Apr 29, 2013 5:08 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1435737 wrote:One thing I expect is to see a helluva lot less 3 yard passes on 3rd and 8. "They gotta work for the extra yards!!!" :laugh:
I expect to see a lot less 3rd and 8 period.
Apr 29, 2013 5:08pm
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Apr 29, 2013 5:15 PM
Commander of Awesome;1435749 wrote:I expect to see a lot less 3rd and 8 period.

Agreed. Hopefully we only have 3rd and 7s. #babysteps
Apr 29, 2013 5:15pm
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Apr 29, 2013 5:22 PM
wes_mantooth;1435750 wrote:Agreed. Hopefully we only have 3rd and 7s. #babysteps
On that down, the choice is easy. Armond Smith sweep play! #shurmur'd
Apr 29, 2013 5:22pm
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Apr 29, 2013 5:31 PM
Commander of Awesome;1435754 wrote:On that down, the choice is easy. Armond Smith sweep play! #shurmur'd

I am partial to that tight end reverse or dive that we ran down on the goal line a couple years ago
Apr 29, 2013 5:31pm
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Apr 29, 2013 5:34 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1435738 wrote:Another thing, now that we've made it through the draft, there are still some solid FA available out there. What would your "wish list" look like from the available FA's?

I would LOVE to steal Brandon Moore away from other teams to plug in at guard, and I think I would also have some interest in a veteran safety, whether it be Woodson, Rhodes, or Barber.

Here's a nice link to peruse the available players... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000150953/article/top-40-remaining-nfl-free-agents
Brandon Moore and Kerry Rhodes at 2/3 year reasonable contracts would be good gets.
Apr 29, 2013 5:34pm
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Apr 29, 2013 5:36 PM
Sonofanump;1435735 wrote:Next year will be a little different, a team will only need to get the #2 pick to get the franchise QB. The #1 pick will be a DE.
Wouldn't be so sure, Clowney is amazing, but if the Jaguars have the first pick then they're going to want Bridgewater.
Apr 29, 2013 5:36pm
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Apr 29, 2013 5:37 PM
se-alum;1435761 wrote:Wouldn't be so sure, Clowney is amazing, but if the Jaguars have the first pick then they're going to want Bridgewater.
Last year everyone was saying Barkley was going to be the #1 pick. I think Bridgewater will probably be the #1 QB, but I'm not going to say he will be the #1 pick just yet.
Apr 29, 2013 5:37pm
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Apr 29, 2013 5:42 PM
Commander of Awesome;1435764 wrote:Last year everyone was saying Barkley was going to be the #1 pick. I think Bridgewater will probably be the #1 QB, but I'm not going to say he will be the #1 pick just yet.
Well yea, anything said about next years draft at this point is pure speculation. I was kinda just making the point that a QB has more value than a DE. Clowney will be a beast, but he won't win a QB-less team a championship.
Apr 29, 2013 5:42pm
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Apr 29, 2013 9:10 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1435737 wrote:One thing I expect is to see a helluva lot less 3 yard passes on 3rd and 8. "They gotta battle for the extra yards!!!" :laugh:
Wow... rough crowd. Really surprised I didn't get any reps for this post! I thought it was hilarious! lol
Apr 29, 2013 9:10pm
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Apr 29, 2013 9:15 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1435822 wrote:Wow... rough crowd. Really surprised I didn't get any reps for this post! I thought it was hilarious! lol

You didn't say battle so you get negs
Apr 29, 2013 9:15pm
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Apr 29, 2013 9:29 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1435737 wrote:One thing I expect is to see a helluva lot less 3 yard passes on 3rd and 8. "They gotta battle for the extra yards!!!" :laugh:
Crimson streak;1435834 wrote:You didn't say battle so you get negs
FIFY lol
Apr 29, 2013 9:29pm
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Apr 29, 2013 10:03 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1435822 wrote:Wow... rough crowd. Really surprised I didn't get any reps for this post! I thought it was hilarious! lol
Did you just laugh at your own joke and ask for reps?
Apr 29, 2013 10:03pm
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Apr 29, 2013 10:10 PM
CLEconomically Speaking;1435878 wrote:Did you just laugh at your own joke and ask for reps?
You must be new around here...
Apr 29, 2013 10:10pm
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Apr 29, 2013 11:54 PM
CLEconomically Speaking;1435878 wrote:Did you just laugh at your own joke and ask for reps?
What happened to that "have to take QB" approach?
Apr 29, 2013 11:54pm
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Apr 30, 2013 8:36 AM
DeyDurkie5;1435960 wrote:What happened to that "have to take QB" approach?
Traded the picks for next year.. a fourth round QB is a developmental guy
Apr 30, 2013 8:36am
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Apr 30, 2013 11:47 AM
Before the draft I was thinking 7-9, 8-8.
After the draft I was thinking 5-11, 6-10.
After looking at the schedule, I am thinking 6-10, 7-9.

AFC East sucks sans the Pats.
Apr 30, 2013 11:47am
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Apr 30, 2013 12:08 PM
Sonofanump;1436157 wrote:Before the draft I was thinking 7-9, 8-8.
After the draft I was thinking 5-11, 6-10.
After looking at the schedule, I am thinking 6-10, 7-9.

AFC East sucks sans the Pats.
I don't understand this logic. You thought they were near .500 with their current roster, but after they added players they somehow are 2 losses worse?
Apr 30, 2013 12:08pm