shook_17;1419895 wrote:David Nelson came in for a visit today. He is 6'5 and would be good in the slot.

SportsAndLady;1419619 wrote:What does your thick skull not comprehend about how stupid you sound? Those "professionals" make plenty of mistakes ALL THE TIME. im not saying im a professional but I certainly could see Weeden was not going to be very good..and guess what, I was right. You and the "professionals" were wrong BR.

Pick6;1419290 wrote:Same arm as Weeden, about half the age and twice as fast and mobile. He sucks.

derek bomar;1419625 wrote:He's garbage and he'll suck this year too.

It's almost as if our scouting department had never been to a football game.

CLEconomically Speaking;1419899 wrote:Doubt he would play in the slot. Little is on his last leg.. he'd probably move down on the depth chart and Nelson would take over across from Gordon. I think we'll see allot of Jordan Norwood and Travis Benjamin out of the slot this year, unless they draft someone.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1419901 wrote:

G

Att

Comp

Pct

Att/G

Yds

Avg

Yds/G

TD

TD%

Int

Int%

Lng

20+

40+

Sck

SckY

Rate

Player A:

16

526

320

60.8

32.9

3,284

6.2

205.2

17

3.2

16

3.0

52T

40

4

24

180

76.9

Player B:

15

399

226

56.6

26.6

2,579

6.5

171.9

11

2.8

18

4.5

61T

0

0

39

288

66.6

Player C:

15

517

297

57.4

34.5

3,385

6.5

225.7

14

2.7

17

3.3

71T

48

6

28

186

72.6

Player D:

16

522

318

60.9

32.6

3,303

6.3

206.4

19

3.6

24

4.6

66T

37

5

30

199

72.2

Player E:

15

380

214

56.3

25.3

2,598

6.8

173.2

18

4.7

15

3.9

73

0

0

24

158

76.8

These numbers represent either the first or second year of several quarterbacks. Brandon Weeden is included in them... What do you notice?

CLEconomically Speaking;1419899 wrote:Doubt he would play in the slot. Little is on his last leg.. he'd probably move down on the depth chart and Nelson would take over across from Gordon. I think we'll see allot of Jordan Norwood and Travis Benjamin out of the slot this year, unless they draft someone.

Crimson streak;1419904 wrote:Little isnt on his last leg. He will be around for a long time. Littles problem was he was forced to be a number 1 and he's not. He's a pretty good number 2 and you could see the progress he made once Gordon emerged

Pick6;1419906 wrote:only thing that really sticks out to me is player B and E have no completions of 20 or more yards. Neither of them should be Weeden, though.
I dont understand the Long stat. Such as Player E has a completion of 73 yards when he has 0 twenty or forty yard completions.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1419914 wrote:Those are Weeden's numbers (C) from his first season being compared to the numbers of Drew Brees (A), Troy Aikman (B), Brett Favre (D), and John Elway (E). I am not saying that Weeden is/will be a Hall of Famer, I'm simply saying that is ignorant and foolish to solely judge a player based on their first or second season. A truly elite NFL QB is one that continues to progress, recognizes flaws in his game, and puts in the time and work to make those flaws become a strength. The verdict is still out on Weeden. He is just entering his second season, and I look forward to seeing what he can do in a vertical offense with a bright, offensive minded coach and an established, successful offensive coordinator. He may or may not become a legitimate NFL starter, but there is certainly no way that anyone can know that from his rookie season, regardless of whether or not he is 30.

Pick6;1419916 wrote:No doubt. I dont really like when people bring up stats of hall of famers to make their points. There are so many different variables that play into it.

But, Im down to give Weeden another season because of the ****ty coaching he had last season. He didnt show us much potential. I still think we need to look for a QB of the future,though.

CLEconomically Speaking;1419899 wrote:Doubt he would play in the slot. Little is on his last leg.. he'd probably move down on the depth chart and Nelson would take over across from Gordon. I think we'll see allot of Jordan Norwood and Travis Benjamin out of the slot this year, unless they draft someone.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1419901 wrote:

G

Att

Comp

Pct

Att/G

Yds

Avg

Yds/G

TD

TD%

Int

Int%

Lng

20+

40+

Sck

SckY

Rate

Player A:

16

526

320

60.8

32.9

3,284

6.2

205.2

17

3.2

16

3.0

52T

40

4

24

180

76.9

Player B:

15

399

226

56.6

26.6

2,579

6.5

171.9

11

2.8

18

4.5

61T

0

0

39

288

66.6

Player C:

15

517

297

57.4

34.5

3,385

6.5

225.7

14

2.7

17

3.3

71T

48

6

28

186

72.6

Player D:

16

522

318

60.9

32.6

3,303

6.3

206.4

19

3.6

24

4.6

66T

37

5

30

199

72.2

Player E:

15

380

214

56.3

25.3

2,598

6.8

173.2

18

4.7

15

3.9

73

0

0

24

158

76.8

These numbers represent either the first or second year of several NFL quarterbacks. Brandon Weeden is included in them... What do you notice? Weeden's numbers are in bold.

These are Weeden's numbers from his first season being compared to the numbers of Drew Brees (A), Troy Aikman (B), Brett Favre (D), and John Elway (E). I am not saying that Weeden is/will be a Hall of Famer, I'm simply saying that is ignorant and foolish to solely judge a player based on their first or second season. A truly elite NFL QB is one that continues to progress, recognizes flaws in his game, and puts in the time and work to make those flaws become a strength. The verdict is still out on Weeden. He is just entering his second season, and I look forward to seeing what he can do in a vertical offense with a bright, offensive minded coach and an established, successful offensive coordinator. He may or may not become a legitimate NFL starter, but there is certainly no way that anyone can know that from his rookie season, regardless of whether or not he is 30.

like_that;1419929 wrote:Do yourself a favor and try to watch a whole season. Thanks.

like_that;1419929 wrote:Do yourself a favor and try to watch a whole season. Thanks.

royal_k;1419931 wrote:Quite possibly the best proof yet and a poster with common sense....But many EXPEERTS will disagree and say you can tell after ONE season.

Mulva;1419667 wrote:I like Philip Thomas

se-alum;1421551 wrote:How bad is the upcoming draft for QB's? The Bills just signed Kolb to a 2yr/13million deal.