Pitbulls for sureMulva;1231736 wrote:A vending machine is more deadly than a gun, huh?
http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2012/07/24/Area-man-refuses-to-give-in-to-fear-after-Colorado-shooting.htmlWebFire;1230057 wrote:Sounds like Gage was actually in the theatre next door and was hit by a bullet that came through the wall.
Gage Hankins, 18, is embraced by his uncle John Massara after speaking to reporters in Forest, Ohio. THE BLADE/AMY E. VOIGT
Why should we have seen them? They aren't that interesting. I see them all of the time in Columbus.WebFire;1232266 wrote:You should have seen all the news trucks in our little town yesterday. Bizarre.
because Cbus is larger than a "little town"dlazz;1232288 wrote:Why should we have seen them? They aren't that interesting. I see them all of the time in Columbus.
Because it's normal in Columbus. I guess you didn't need to see them, but since you took it so literal, let me try again.dlazz;1232288 wrote:Why should we have seen them? They aren't that interesting. I see them all of the time in Columbus.
Better.WebFire;1232318 wrote:There were a lot of news trucks in our small town last night. That is not normal. It is unusual to see any news trucks in our town.
One of the victims in the James Holmes mass murder spree has lawyered up and plans to file a lawsuit ... because he feels the theater dropped the ball in a very fatal way.
Torrence Brown, Jr. was in Century 16 Theater when Holmes let loose. One of Brown's best friends, A.J. Boik, was shot in the chest and died. Brown, who was not physically injured, claims to now suffer from extreme trauma.
Brown has hired attorney Donald Karpel to rep him. Karpel tells TMZ ... he is targeting 3 defendants.
1. The theater. Karpel claims it was negligent for the theater to have an emergency door in the front that was not alarmed or guarded. It's widely believed Holmes entered the theater with a ticket, propped the emergency door open from inside, went to his car and returned with guns.
2. Holmes' doctors. Karpel says it appears Holmes was on several medications -- prescribed by one or more doctors -- at the time of the shooting and he believes the docs did not properly monitor Holmes.
3. Warner Bros. Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."
False! Full auto is still banned.tk421;1231761 wrote:For those of you who think an "assault" weapons ban will do anything, how did the other ban from 94-04 do? I bet not much. I hate that term, "assault" weapon. It was coined by the media before the ban in 94, and now it's stuck. Semi auto is not assault weapon, assault weapons MUST include full auto. Those are class 3 and include tons of paperwork, a background check, and a tax stamp. You can't just stroll into a gun shop and by an "assault" weapon. Wish the stupid media would quit misleading the gullible American public.
It's people like you who don't know the laws and terms that spout off about gun regulations when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. You can go buy an assault rifle as easy as a hand gun. There is no difference between and assault rifle and a hunting rifle. Both are semi auto - the difference is ARs are made to look like military issue weapons.These were all semi-automatic firearms, meaning that they can eject spent shell casings and chamber the next bullet without human action, but (as opposed to automatic firearms) only one round is fired per pull of the trigger.[1] In addition to the 19 weapons specifically prohibited, the federal assault weapons ban also defined as a prohibited assault weapon any semiautomatic rifle with a detachable magazine and at least two of the following five items: a folding or telescopic stock, a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, a bayonet mount, and a flash suppressor or threaded barrel (a barrel that can accommodate a flash suppressor); or a grenade launcher. The act also defined as a prohibited assault weapon semi-automatic pistols that weighed more than 50 ounces when unloaded or included a barrel shroud, and barred the manufacture of magazines capable of carrying more than 10 rounds.[1]
But to his point, people get all crazy about "assault" rifles, when they are no different than a hunting rifle other than looks. It's the term, not the gun, that get people riled up.Raw Dawgin' it;1232341 wrote:False! Full auto is still banned.
Assault Weapons definition
It's people like you who don't know the laws and terms that spout off about gun regulations when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. You can go buy an assault rifle as easy as a hand gun. There is no difference between and assault rifle and a hunting rifle. Both are semi auto - the difference is ARs are made to look like military issue weapons.
ignorant people want to ban guns. I agree about the term - these same people also don't know that handguns cause more deaths than all the AR deaths combinedWebFire;1232426 wrote:But to his point, people get all crazy about "assault" rifles, when they are no different than a hunting rifle other than looks. It's the term, not the gun, that get people riled up.
Raw Dawgin' it;1232341 wrote: There is no difference between and assault rifle and a hunting rifle. Both are semi auto - the difference is ARs are made to look like military issue weapons.
In all fairness, I'd like to see the stats per piece. I'm betting there are more handguns in circulation, so it's likely that they'll be used, all else being equal.Raw Dawgin' it;1232517 wrote:ignorant people want to ban guns. I agree about the term - these same people also don't know that handguns cause more deaths than all the AR deaths combined
I'm not sure how up to date this site is - but even if it's 5 years old I doubt the number has changed drastically. It says "Assault weapons" are about 1 percent of the guns used in crime.O-Trap;1232553 wrote:This.
The difference between an "assault weapon" and a hunting rifle is that it basically looks scarier.
In all fairness, I'd like to see the stats per piece. I'm betting there are more handguns in circulation, so it's likely that they'll be used, all else being equal.
Same as semi auto hunting rifles. The magazine he used, 100 rounds, is illegal. Drum magazines aren't legal to use and drum magazine made after 1996 aren't legal to purchase.I Wear Pants;1232559 wrote:Assault weapons tend to have larger ammo capacities no? Also, they're designed specifically to kill people.
And the handgun stat makes sense because there's a fuckload of them and they're pretty much designed to shoot people as well.
I Wear Pants;1232559 wrote:Assault weapons tend to have larger ammo capacities no? Also, they're designed specifically to kill people.
What I mean is, if "assault" weapons account for only 1% of gun crimes, but the same account for 1% of the overall number of guns in the country, then the rate is proportionally the same.Raw Dawgin' it;1232565 wrote:I'm not sure how up to date this site is - but even if it's 5 years old I doubt the number has changed drastically. It says "Assault weapons" are about 1 percent of the guns used in crime.
Scroll to the bottom - http://gunsafe.org/position statements/Guns and crime.htm
It said there are 1m gun crimes a year, and 1% of gun crimes are with ARs - so 10k crimes. It also said guns account for 14k murders a year so 1% of that would be 140 murders from ARs. That's how i read it.O-Trap;1232574 wrote:They make phenomenal guns for sport shooting. They're designed specifically for ease and accuracy, specifically to hit whatever you're shooting, whether that would be a person, bear, target, or clay pigeon.
Functionally, they're no different than any hunting rifle.
What I mean is, if "assault" weapons account for only 1% of gun crimes, but the same account for 1% of the overall number of guns in the country, then the rate is proportionally the same.
Even if that were the case, then why would gun groups not target hand guns, instead of ARs?O-Trap;1232574 wrote: What I mean is, if "assault" weapons account for only 1% of gun crimes, but the same account for 1% of the overall number of guns in the country, then the rate is proportionally the same.
Probably money. Also, ARs used to be banned so it's easier to go after something that was onces banned. They'll claim "if it were still banned this wouldn't have happened" which is bull shit. He malfunctioned as a human and would've killed those people either way.WebFire;1232582 wrote:Even if that were the case, then why would gun groups not target hand guns, instead of ARs?
Because at that point, all guns would be created equal, so a handgun would be no more or less likely a tool in a violent crime.WebFire;1232582 wrote:Even if that were the case, then why would gun groups not target hand guns, instead of ARs?
Not people.Raw Dawgin' it;1232568 wrote:Same as semi auto hunting rifles. The magazine he used, 100 rounds, is illegal. Drum magazines aren't legal to use and drum magazine made after 1996 aren't legal to purchase.
And, all guns are designed to kill.
So you posit that we should be able to stroll into the sports store and purchase say an M249?dlazz;1232598 wrote:Gun control is pointless. Either ban guns entirely (pointless at this point -- they're easily obtainable) or take restrictions off them.
Why not? People can collect guns and not shoot them, just like people collect fast cars and don't drive them 300mph. As long as the mentally unstable/criminals can't buy guns I don't care.I Wear Pants;1232612 wrote:So you posit that we should be able to stroll into the sports store and purchase say an M249?
