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Jul 20, 2012 5:17 PM
Didn't take long for the politicians to use this tragedy to further their own agenda.

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2012/07/20/in-wake-of-movie-shooting-bloomberg-calls-for-tough-gun-policy/

I also love how the media refers to any big scary weapon as an assault rifle. The definition of "assault" rifle includes full auto capability, but I wouldn't expect anyone in the media to report anything unbiased.
Jul 20, 2012 5:17pm
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Jul 20, 2012 5:20 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1229713 wrote:A girl who was killed was also at the toronto mall shooting. In her essay she said she bought her food at 6:20 and the shooting happened at 6:23. She said "A feeling that was overwhelming enough to lead me to head outside in the rain to get fresh air instead of continuing back into the food court to go shopping at SportChek. The gunshots rung out at 6:23. Had I not gone outside, I would've been in the midst of gunfire."

Terrible - it's like real life final destination
SnotBubbles;1229999 wrote:Only 1 victim has been identified (as far as I know). She was an aspiring sports reporter for a local TV station. She apparently narrowly missed a shooting at a mall in Canada earlier this year.

Her brother is updating the situation via his blog....it's hard to read.

http://www.jordanghawi.com/denver-theatre-shooting-jessica-ghawi/
Must be the same girl in RDI's earlier post? To think you escaped a potential tragedy, only to have it happen again--only this time with a horrific ending.
Jul 20, 2012 5:20pm
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Jul 20, 2012 5:25 PM
Just that easy, isn't it?
Jul 20, 2012 5:25pm
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Jul 20, 2012 5:26 PM
I hope this illistrates the point that gun free zones don't do anything but make the people easier targets. I understand that the movie theater had no gun signs posted on the doors. As we can see, that worked out really good. Of course, the liberal solution is to ban guns even more.
Jul 20, 2012 5:26pm
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Jul 20, 2012 5:27 PM
WebFire;1230097 wrote:Just that easy, isn't it?
If I were in a theater and someone started shooting, I'd sure as hell at least try. Run to the exits and get gunned down or at least attempt to stop the idiot. Probably get shot either way, at least you made the attempt.
Jul 20, 2012 5:27pm
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Jul 20, 2012 5:39 PM
tk421;1230101 wrote:If I were in a theater and someone started shooting, I'd sure as hell at least try. Run to the exits and get gunned down or at least attempt to stop the idiot. Probably get shot either way, at least you made the attempt.
Not saying you shouldn't. Not saying I wouldn't. But I think you grossly underestimate how quickly this stuff goes down. By the time you figured it out, he would probably be done and gone.
Jul 20, 2012 5:39pm
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Jul 20, 2012 5:44 PM
WebFire;1230106 wrote:Not saying you shouldn't. Not saying I wouldn't. But I think you grossly underestimate how quickly this stuff goes down. By the time you figured it out, he would probably be done and gone.
Well, I've never been in that kind of situation but hopefully I'd at least have the opportunity to try.
Jul 20, 2012 5:44pm
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Jul 20, 2012 5:56 PM
Unless you are extremely close to the exit you wouldn't have much chance of getting out.....if you could grasp the situation quickly you could hit the floor and tuck and cover.....maybe if you were down and could tell the shots were from the front maybe you could bolt for it....but I'm playing dead (hopefully) and not too many seconds later the shooting will cease and the mother fucker will take off.

Gotta get low IMO. No visibility...can't really pull off the "hero" move.
Jul 20, 2012 5:56pm
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Jul 20, 2012 5:57 PM
tk421;1230111 wrote:Well, I've never been in that kind of situation but hopefully I'd at least have the opportunity to try.

And most likely get your head blown off.
Jul 20, 2012 5:57pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:03 PM
wildcats20;1230120 wrote:And most likely get your head blown off.
running for the exits didn't really help any either, did it?
Jul 20, 2012 6:03pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:08 PM
tk421;1230101 wrote:If I were in a theater and someone started shooting, I'd sure as hell at least try. Run to the exits and get gunned down or at least attempt to stop the idiot. Probably get shot either way, at least you made the attempt.
and you'd no doubt end up pumping another 10 people full of bullets. i can just picture it out now, with tear gas and all, its hilarious you think you could of done something.

where is mark whalberg when you need him?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/mark-wahlberg-on-911-plane_n_1213029.html
Jul 20, 2012 6:08pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:13 PM
tk421;1230123 wrote:running for the exits didn't really help any either, did it?
im sure some people made it out alive.

also smh at anybody bringing politics into this discussion.
Jul 20, 2012 6:13pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:37 PM
tcarrier32;1230126 wrote:and you'd no doubt end up pumping another 10 people full of bullets. i can just picture it out now, with tear gas and all, its hilarious you think you could of done something.

where is mark whalberg when you need him?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/mark-wahlberg-on-911-plane_n_1213029.html
I believe I already made that joke. Quit stealing my shitty material.
Jul 20, 2012 6:37pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:40 PM
Fly4Fun;1230139 wrote:I believe I already made that joke. Quit stealing my shitty material.
damnit, i need to read these threads more carefully. my mistake.
Jul 20, 2012 6:40pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:46 PM
Pick6;1230130 wrote: also smh at anybody bringing politics into this discussion.
All major news outlets are talking about control non stop, so politics have been in this thing since CNN started covering it.
Jul 20, 2012 6:46pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:51 PM
ccrunner609;1230095 wrote:Just one person jumping him and removing his gas mask and its over. he can't see orbreathe
Probably one of the more stupid posts that was meant to be serious I've read on here in a long time.
Jul 20, 2012 6:51pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:52 PM
The_Crosby_Show;1230146 wrote:All major news outlets are talking about control non stop, so politics have been in this thing since CNN started covering it.
Clinton News Network..'nuff said
Jul 20, 2012 6:52pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:53 PM
tk421;1230098 wrote: Of course, the liberal solution is to ban guns even more.
You see the video of the 70 year old preventing an internet cafe robbery by shooting at the robbers-to-be? Perfect counter to any bleeding liberal gun control supporter.

Gun control would never ever prevent someone who truly wants to carry out a shooting. Anyone who thinks otherwise is extremely ignorant.
Jul 20, 2012 6:53pm
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Jul 20, 2012 6:57 PM
TedSheckler;1230086 wrote:Was the kid crying and interrupting the film? If so, 100% justified.
Too early :(
Jul 20, 2012 6:57pm
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Jul 20, 2012 7:09 PM
lhslep134;1230151 wrote:You see the video of the 70 year old preventing an internet cafe robbery by shooting at the robbers-to-be? Perfect counter to any bleeding liberal gun control supporter.

Gun control would never ever prevent someone who truly wants to carry out a shooting. Anyone who thinks otherwise is extremely ignorant.
I did, but that doesn't get the media coverage a shooting like this does. No one in the media cares when guns are used to help, only when their is some kind of tragedy they can use to further their agenda. I agree, nothing could have stopped this from happening, he passed the background checks and by all accounts was perfectly "sane" until he decided to shoot up the place. Nothing, not even a complete gun ban, would have stopped this.
Jul 20, 2012 7:09pm
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Jul 20, 2012 8:43 PM
ccrunner609;1230095 wrote:Just one person jumping him and removing his gas mask and its over. he can't see orbreathe
You know, I usually try and leave you alone on here, but you say dumb things sometimes. How is the hero that's been exposed to the gas already suppose to find the strength and ability to remove a gasmask from someone who isn't affected like they are?
It's about equally entertaining as the people saying "This is why we need conceal and carry!!" - So what, then it'd be them and their handguns vs the guy with the automatic weapons and full body armor?

It's a sad day when you can't even go to a movie theater without risking death.
Jul 20, 2012 8:43pm
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Jul 20, 2012 9:13 PM
If not for the gas canisters I'm with ccrunner. With tear gas i don't think you can expect civilians to react heroically.

Any word on a motive? I can't wrap my head around why the mass murder and booby trapped apartment without a deep seeded motive.
Jul 20, 2012 9:13pm
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Jul 20, 2012 11:43 PM
And then he proposes in the hospital. Really?! lol
Jul 20, 2012 11:43pm