LJ wrote:

queencitybuckeye wrote:

LJ wrote:

GoChiefs wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote: I'm glad my parents aren't gochiefs is all I can say lol

Yes...b/c god forbid you should have to work for something on your own huh? :rolleyes: My son is spoiled, he gets almost anything he wants, within reason. So a lot of kids would actually like to have someone like me and my wife as parents. Until they are older of course.

I Wear Pants wrote: The question I have is, why would you want them to have to go through what you did?

B/c nothing I had to go through has been too difficult to get through. B/c it has helped make me who I am today. Again...if I had a shitty life, I could understand your question. But, I don't. So..why WOULDN'T I want them to have to go through what I did???

Because it should be their life, not yours.

Yep, and paying one's way is a big part of that.

But having to do what dad did isn't :rolleyes:

GoChiefs wrote:

LJ wrote: But having to do what dad did isn't :rolleyes:

What's wrong with doing it the way dad did? :huh:

LJ wrote:

GoChiefs wrote:

LJ wrote: But having to do what dad did isn't :rolleyes:

What's wrong with doing it the way dad did? :huh:

nothing, if that's what they want to do. I think parents should afford their kids more options than just saying "this is how I did it and it's the same way you are going to do it"

LJ wrote: nothing, if that's what they want to do. I think parents should afford their kids more options than just saying "this is how I did it and it's the same way you are going to do it"

queencitybuckeye wrote:

LJ wrote:

queencitybuckeye wrote:

LJ wrote:

GoChiefs wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote: I'm glad my parents aren't gochiefs is all I can say lol

Yes...b/c god forbid you should have to work for something on your own huh? :rolleyes: My son is spoiled, he gets almost anything he wants, within reason. So a lot of kids would actually like to have someone like me and my wife as parents. Until they are older of course.

I Wear Pants wrote: The question I have is, why would you want them to have to go through what you did?

B/c nothing I had to go through has been too difficult to get through. B/c it has helped make me who I am today. Again...if I had a shitty life, I could understand your question. But, I don't. So..why WOULDN'T I want them to have to go through what I did???

Because it should be their life, not yours.

Yep, and paying one's way is a big part of that.

But having to do what dad did isn't :rolleyes:

May or may not be. Your assertion that paying for a child's college is part of the child having a better life than the parents is not as cut and dried as you stated. Making some children travel a tougher path is exactly what they need to end up in a better place than their parents.

queencitybuckeye wrote:

LJ wrote:

GoChiefs wrote:

LJ wrote: But having to do what dad did isn't :rolleyes:

What's wrong with doing it the way dad did? :huh:

nothing, if that's what they want to do. I think parents should afford their kids more options than just saying "this is how I did it and it's the same way you are going to do it"

Not paying for a child's education leaves them only one way to do it? Not remotely factual. I thought of several in 30 seconds.

LJ wrote: My dad though, wanted to make sure that I had a quality education and wasn't going to let me start my life with debt.

LJ wrote: what? Saying "if you want to go to college, you have to get loans and work and pay for the whole thing yourself because that is how I did it" is not providing your kid with options. Sorry.

GoChiefs wrote:

LJ wrote: My dad though, wanted to make sure that I had a quality education and wasn't going to let me start my life with debt.

There again. You don't have to start your life out in debt. If you don't want the debt, don't go to college. If you believe an education is more important, then you go to college and pay off YOUR debts.

GoChiefs wrote:

LJ wrote: what? Saying "if you want to go to college, you have to get loans and work and pay for the whole thing yourself because that is how I did it" is not providing your kid with options. Sorry.

Door A) Go to college and pay for you life decision.
Door B) Go to work and not start your life out in debt.

Yeah..I'd say he has options.

LJ wrote: I think your whole argument stems from whether or not college is important. That is a different argument and is skewing your opinion against people who do feel that college is very important. I think your whole thing stems from how you value education rather than anything else.

GoChiefs wrote:

LJ wrote: I think your whole argument stems from whether or not college is important. That is a different argument and is skewing your opinion against people who do feel that college is very important. I think your whole thing stems from how you value education rather than anything else.

My debate stems from nothing other than the fact that if any of my children want a college education, they will have to earn it themselves. What I think about a college education has nothing to do with it.

LJ wrote: I call BS, because a lot of your statements always end in "something they may or may not use"

LJ wrote: btw, whether or not you or someone else pays for the college, the child will earn the college education themselves regardless. They are the ones who will be doing all the work.

GoChiefs wrote:

LJ wrote: what? Saying "if you want to go to college, you have to get loans and work and pay for the whole thing yourself because that is how I did it" is not providing your kid with options. Sorry.

Door A) Go to college and pay for you life decision.
Door B) Go to work and not start your life out in debt.
Door C) Go to work and save up money and then go to college so you're not in debt.
Door D) Go to college and work towards your education at the same time.

Yeah..I'd say he has options.

Glory Days wrote: so i didnt take this route. but when i was 18, had i moved out and got a job i would have been in debt. i dont know how anyone couldnt be considering most jobs people have before 18 arent exactly jobs you could live off of. buying a house, owning a car and living on your own would put just about anyone in debt right away.

CenterBHSFan wrote: I just think that the other side of the debate is that kids are not entitled to a college education in alot of people's eyes. If the parents want to do that for their kids, fine.
But it isn't WRONG for the parents to let the kids choose to go to college and pay for it themselves.

I Wear Pants wrote: Are you cool with the kid living at home and commuting to school?

CenterBHSFan wrote: I just think that the other side of the debate is that kids are not entitled to a college education in alot of people's eyes. If the parents want to do that for their kids, fine.
But it isn't WRONG for the parents to let the kids choose to go to college and pay for it themselves.

sleeper wrote: I think GoCheifs is more concerned about using his money to get drunk every weekend and live a higher luxury lifestyle than help his kids out in life.

We have a word for that, it's called being selfish and you can take that to the bank.

GoChiefs wrote:

I Wear Pants wrote: Are you cool with the kid living at home and commuting to school?

I have no problems with that at all. I'm not an asshole. I will help my son out anyway that I can, but I'm not going to go and spend thousands of dollars out of my pocket for it.