gibby08 wrote:

LJ wrote:

gibby08 wrote:

LJ wrote: Well, the 2011 frontrunners will be Pryor and Lewis, so that only leaves 1 spot for someone to have a chance at winning. As of right now you have to put Barkley in that spot, playing in that USC system and the skills he has and the media's love for USC. Brantley shouldn't be in the discussion until he wins some games this year.

Not even close...

Good argument. Pryor will lead the Buckeyes to another 1 or 2 loss season this year with even better stats than he had in 09, to say that, going into his senior year he won't be in the top 3 in the Heisman race is ridiculous. Lewis is a beast and will be in the top 3. As of RIGHT NOW, for 2011, the only other person out there that really shows that "flash" (who has experience and has actually played a whole season, and in big games) is Barkley. Brantley hasn't done 1 damn thing. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. What are his career stats? Tot.: 28 18 235 64.3 1 3 38 163.00

There is nothing, NOTHING, that puts him in the convo right now. Absolutely nothing.

What puts Terrelle Pryor in the Top 5?? NOTHING

sleeper wrote: I always hate how the Heisman winner from last year is automatically the front runner for next year's Heisman. There will NEVER be another 2-time Heisman winner as long as Archie Griffin is still alive, I mean if Tebow(whom the media sucked off for 4 years) can't do it, then certainly Ingram won't.

As far as Pryor, I could see it if Ohio State goes undefeated, and I think Locker, Lewis, and Mallet all are in it as well.

Brantley? LOL

sleeper wrote: I always hate how the Heisman winner from last year is automatically the front runner for next year's Heisman. There will NEVER be another 2-time Heisman winner as long as Archie Griffin is still alive, I mean if Tebow(whom the media sucked off for 4 years) can't do it, then certainly Ingram won't.

As far as Pryor, I could see it if Ohio State goes undefeated, and I think Locker, Lewis, and Mallet all are in it as well.

Brantley? LOL

HighRoller74 wrote: I agree with True.

Having Brantley even in the top 25 is quite homerish at this point. He's played 0 snaps, no one knows how good he is. He could be another Alex Smith, or he could be Steve Bellisari kinda hard to tell at this point.

However based on the Oregon game alone, Pryor deserves to be in the top 5.

Along with

1.) Ingram
2.) Dion Lewis
3.) Pryor
4.) Locker
5.) Moore.

gibby08 wrote:

If Ingram is even close to his stats from last year and they go undefeated...THERE IS NO WAY THEY CANT GIVE IT TO HIM

gibby08 wrote: Terrelle Pryor WILL NOT win the Heisman trophy this year. He wont even come close

Let says Ohio State(not likely),Boise State,and Alabama all go undefeated. Ingram and Moore will finish WAY ahead Pryor....

ytownfootball wrote:

gibby08 wrote:

If Ingram is even close to his stats from last year and they go undefeated...THERE IS NO WAY THEY CANT GIVE IT TO HIM

You're probably right...I mean, your assessment of Evan Turner was spot on.

Trueblue23 wrote: Basically I want to admit that your "thoughts" are wrong.

Trueblue23 wrote: There is no honest way you can put ANY player in the Heisman race based on a Spring Game.

gibby08 wrote: ^^^

I agree

I also think Locker is going to have a huge year

sjmvsfscs08 wrote: Didn't we learn form last year Pryor is not the stud QB we thought he would be? If he wins the Heisman throwing slants and knife screens all day, I'll be disappointed.

goosebumps wrote: Zach Collaros should be in the top 10. Look at what he did last year with limited playing time.

93/124 for a 75% completion
1434 passing yards (11.57 yards/rec) 344 rushing yards (6/carry)
10 Passing TD's 4 Rushing TD's and 2 interceptions.

QB rating 195.5

This year he has what ESPN has called the "best WR crew in the country". He may set some more records this year. He already holds the Big East record for most yards in a game at 555.

devil1197 wrote:

goosebumps wrote: Zach Collaros should be in the top 10. Look at what he did last year with limited playing time.

93/124 for a 75% completion
1434 passing yards (11.57 yards/rec) 344 rushing yards (6/carry)
10 Passing TD's 4 Rushing TD's and 2 interceptions.

QB rating 195.5

This year he has what ESPN has called the "best WR crew in the country". He may set some more records this year. He already holds the Big East record for most yards in a game at 555.

While I agree that Zach has put up major numbers, UC will have to go undefeated for him to be in contention which I highly doubt.

devil1197 wrote:

goosebumps wrote: Zach Collaros should be in the top 10. Look at what he did last year with limited playing time.

93/124 for a 75% completion
1434 passing yards (11.57 yards/rec) 344 rushing yards (6/carry)
10 Passing TD's 4 Rushing TD's and 2 interceptions.

QB rating 195.5

This year he has what ESPN has called the "best WR crew in the country". He may set some more records this year. He already holds the Big East record for most yards in a game at 555.

While I agree that Zach has put up major numbers, UC will have to go undefeated for him to be in contention which I highly doubt.

goosebumps wrote: Zach Collaros should be in the top 10. Look at what he did last year with limited playing time.

93/124 for a 75% completion
1434 passing yards (11.57 yards/rec) 344 rushing yards (6/carry)
10 Passing TD's 4 Rushing TD's and 2 interceptions.

QB rating 195.5

This year he has what ESPN has called the "best WR crew in the country". He may set some more records this year. He already holds the Big East record for most yards in a game at 555.

ytownfootball wrote: The problem guys like Calloros and Pike have is they play in a 'system" oriented offense. Were it not for that guys like Case Keenum at Houston would have won it hands down.