posted by CenterBHSFan

Is there evidence to support this claim? Where can I find this survey?

https://research.lifeway.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Evangelical-Attitudes-Toward-Israel-Research-Study-Report.pdf

On top of this, it is fairly common knowledge of the place Israel has in Evangelical and other Christian teachings.  

posted by geeblock

i think the determining factor is if its funny and also if you are at a comedy show.  Didnt pass the bar for either.  Not sure who you would appeal to or how that gets you votes.

Is it racist when Kamala tells jokes about white people? Maybe just insensitive?

posted by CenterBHSFan

Is it racist when Kamala tells jokes about white people? Maybe just insensitive?

People are way too touchy and get way too triggered over this stupid shit. 

Seven days until the election and ALL the media has to talk about is a roast comedian doing what roast comedian's do. 

If Harris makes jokes about white people, I don't care BUT if they throw stones in glass houses about conservatives doing it, they're going to get pushback for being hypocrites.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

https://research.lifeway.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Evangelical-Attitudes-Toward-Israel-Research-Study-Report.pdf

On top of this, it is fairly common knowledge of the place Israel has in Evangelical and other Christian teachings.  

I don't really care about that issue, myself. 

But the fact of the matter is that Israel does exist as a country. I think getting pissy about that fact *at this point in time" is kinda whacko. And if we are to play that game, let's add to the mass psychosis by disputing the existence of any country. Literally any country as it stands today. 

But Israel does exist and has a right to do so. I would not mind a Palestinian state, either. 

What I do mind is that Israel needs to create its own debt to fight wars instead of adding to ours.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Is it racist when Kamala tells jokes about white people? Maybe just insensitive?

I don’t know I haven’t heard that one. You doing an awful lot of backflips. It’s probably just easier to say this was not good political strategy, which is all I said. You are going all over the place to deflect. My whole argument is that it’s bad political strategy. That’s it that’s the comment. 

posted by BR1986FB

People are way too touchy and get way too triggered over this stupid shit. 

Seven days until the election and ALL the media has to talk about is a roast comedian doing what roast comedian's do. 

If Harris makes jokes about white people, I don't care BUT if they throw stones in glass houses about conservatives doing it, they're going to get pushback for being hypocrites.

I agree. 

The same people on this site who can always be counted on to jump in with "what about Trump" are the same people who can never also say "well Kamala did it too" and I'm going to call them out on it. 

posted by geeblock

I don’t know I haven’t heard that one. You doing an awful lot of backflips. It’s probably just easier to say this was not good political strategy, which is all I said. You are going all over the place to deflect. My whole argument is that it’s bad political strategy. That’s it that’s the comment. 

I have not backflipped on any thing. I have not deflected.

But I have noticed that when I post questions to you, that you never seem to be able to answer most of them.

If Kamala can tell a joke about white people then a comedian can tell a joke about Puerto Ricans. That fact does not require a backflip of any kind.

Honestly, i'd much rather Kamala tell jokes about white people and their tacos than I would want to eat anything she cooked that was washed in her bathtub. It's a matter of tolerance 😂 

Stay classy NY...I also find this ironic anyone in NYC referring to anything as "trash" as they are a cesspool themselves. 

Could you imagine if a city like Columbus or Cincinnati put up signs with "no entry" with a black man, a guy in a sombrero or a turban did this? Oh, the outrage.

posted by CenterBHSFan

I have not backflipped on any thing. I have not deflected.

But I have noticed that when I post questions to you, that you never seem to be able to answer most of them.

If Kamala can tell a joke about white people then a comedian can tell a joke about Puerto Ricans. That fact does not require a backflip of any kind.

If you think holding a rally hosted by hulk hogan and then bringing out a comedian to say all Mexicans do is make babies, carve watermelons with my black friends and the whole country of PR is a pile of trash is good political strategy I guess we will have to disagree. All jokes aren’t made the same. 

posted by CenterBHSFan

I don't really care about that issue, myself. 

But the fact of the matter is that Israel does exist as a country. I think getting pissy about that fact *at this point in time" is kinda whacko. And if we are to play that game, let's add to the mass psychosis by disputing the existence of any country. Literally any country as it stands today. 

But Israel does exist and has a right to do so. I would not mind a Palestinian state, either. 

What I do mind is that Israel needs to create its own debt to fight wars instead of adding to ours.

I'm not pissy about it.  I was just explaing why Trump's followers are firmly in the Israel camp - because God's on that side.  Trump has proven he'll be very friendly in his dealing with Israel.  He'll be even more supportive than we already are.  And the Israelis are always happy to accept even more US support for not only propping up their state, but by making a desert strip a first world power.  

Trump's already starting in with his election fraud stuff.  By his logic, if he wins he wins, and if he loses - fraud.  Seems like he's setting it up perfectly for his followers to riot again if he loses.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Now that’s funny  

posted by geeblock

If you think holding a rally hosted by hulk hogan and then bringing out a comedian to say all Mexicans do is make babies, carve watermelons with my black friends and the whole country of PR is a pile of trash is good political strategy I guess we will have to disagree. All jokes aren’t made the same. 

Wait. Are you making the case that comedians should never joke about Mexicans stealing fences?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

https://research.lifeway.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Evangelical-Attitudes-Toward-Israel-Research-Study-Report.pdf

On top of this, it is fairly common knowledge of the place Israel has in Evangelical and other Christian teachings.  

As much as I hate to agree with Boogie, he’s right. Evangelicals “support” Israel due to apocalyptic reasons and in the Bible God said to protect “his people”.

I would argue though that this is also evidence that they are not Nazi’s as they believe they are morally right in helping anything and everything Jewish related. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Trump's already starting in with his election fraud stuff.  By his logic, if he wins he wins, and if he loses - fraud.  Seems like he's setting it up perfectly for his followers to riot again if he loses.

And the Dem's are with these ballot boxes that were set on fire in Oregon & Washington so I guess we're at a stalemate.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Trump's already starting in with his election fraud stuff.  By his logic, if he wins he wins, and if he loses - fraud.  Seems like he's setting it up perfectly for his followers to riot again if he loses.

I'm not going to argue with him on this when states like Virginia are suing to have non-citizens added back to the voting rolls. We must be able to definitely have citizenship requirements. 

Missouri is dealing with a lawsuit right now, being sued by the Biden administration due to the same reason. 

I find it interesting how you and others never bring up the counter arguments. Is it ignorance or ideology?

posted by CenterBHSFan

Wait. Are you making the case that comedians should never joke about Mexicans stealing fences?

Yes exactly what I said jfc. lol 

posted by jmog

Now that’s funny  

lol 

posted by geeblock

Yes exactly what I said jfc. lol 

Oh, because that was done at a Kamala Harris rally. 

Glad to see you condemn comedy concerning Kamala too.

posted by CenterBHSFan

Oh, because that was done at a Kamala Harris rally. 

Glad to see you condemn comedy concerning Kamala too.

you are taking this personally. if the dems did racist jokes then that also is not good political strategy.  My comment still stands that this was not a good political strategy in NY the other day.

posted by geeblock

you are taking this personally. if the dems did racist jokes then that also is not good political strategy.  My comment still stands that this was not a good political strategy in NY the other day.

I'm not saying that I disagree with you. I'm saying that people are making a mountain from a molehill, based on politics.

Neither the Puerto Rican joke, the white people taco joke or Mexican jokes offended me. But it's hilarious how the media has gotten people outraged only about the Puerto Rican joke, don't you think?

posted by CenterBHSFan

I'm not saying that I disagree with you. I'm saying that people are making a mountain from a molehill, based on politics.

Neither the Puerto Rican joke, the white people taco joke or Mexican jokes offended me. But it's hilarious how the media has gotten people outraged only anout the Puerto Rican joke, don't you think?

idk,  both Nikki Haley and Meghyn Kelly both took said it was a bad look and would cost votes especially with using the C-Word and saying Kamala had a pimp ect...maybe the media has riled up white people, but anecdotally the POC in my circle and social media shpere, did not like it and it had nothing to do with the media.

posted by CenterBHSFan

I'm not saying that I disagree with you. I'm saying that people are making a mountain from a molehill, based on politics.

Neither the Puerto Rican joke, the white people taco joke or Mexican jokes offended me. But it's hilarious how the media has gotten people outraged only about the Puerto Rican joke, don't you think?

Agree 100% but also agree with geeblock in that it wasn't the best venue to pop off these comments with the liberal media waiting for any nugget they can pounce on.

posted by geeblock

idk,  both Nikki Haley and Meghyn Kelly both took said it was a bad look and would cost votes especially with using the C-Word and saying Kamala had a pimp ect...maybe the media has riled up white people, but anecdotally the POC in my circle and social media shpere, did not like it and it had nothing to do with the media.

Well, I'm fortunate in the fact that I don't let Nikki Haley or Megyn Kelly dictate the terms in what I find funny. I also don't let Stephen A. Smith or Jake Tapper tell me when or where I can find humor.

None of those people can tell me how to dress for work, either.

Again, the fact that people let media lead them into the terms of comedy is more funny to me than Kamala's joke, or the jokes at Trump's rally. 

It's stupid shit.

And I don't even care if it hurts Trump's campaign. I kind of hope it does because I've got so many bets on Kamala winning that I will have to think a minute to remember them all.