NBA Regular Season 19/20

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 11:11 AM
posted by iclfan2

I don’t watch a ton of NBA, but are these scores way higher than usual? Seems like a ton of high scoring games.

The scores in the bubble are on par with how they had been prior. Like Lalely said, you don’t have the ten worst teams in the bubble. The low scoring teams like the Cavs, Knicks, Hornets, etc. are sitting at home. Milwaukee, Houston, Dallas, Clippers are all averaging over 115ppg. Dallas and Houston had a game last week where they combined for over 300 points, which was definitely an outlier. I’d say scores in the 120s are the top range of normal. 


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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 2:59 PM
posted by iclfan2

I don’t watch a ton of NBA, but are these scores way higher than usual? Seems like a ton of high scoring games.

It started with the Rockets (and kinda GSW), but now everyone in the league pretty much shoots 50 threes a game. The analytics has figured out and maximized offense. Everyone averages over 100 these days.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 3:03 PM
posted by Laley23

It started with the Rockets (and kinda GSW), but now everyone in the league pretty much shoots 50 threes a game. The analytics has figured out and maximized offense. Everyone averages over 100 these days.

Have you ever read or heard what % do 3’s need to be made to use that philosophy? Is it make legitimate for an NBA team to use that philosophy over say a high school team where the best shooter is well below the level of shooter of worst NBA guy jacking 3’s?


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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 3:26 PM
posted by Ironman92

Have you ever read or heard what % do 3’s need to be made to use that philosophy? Is it make legitimate for an NBA team to use that philosophy over say a high school team where the best shooter is well below the level of shooter of worst NBA guy jacking 3’s?

I don't know percentage of the shooter/team. But, that would depend on their percentage of 2s and FT rate as well.

Basic math says you can make 33% of threes, and that takes you to level with a team shooting 50% inside the arc. 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 6:47 PM
posted by Laley23

I don't know percentage of the shooter/team. But, that would depend on their percentage of 2s and FT rate as well.

Basic math says you can make 33% of threes, and that takes you to level with a team shooting 50% inside the arc. 

And it’s more territory to cover for the defense. Not sure the exact but remember them talking about a pass in to the post being guarded yielded like .81 points whereas a 3 point attempt yielded like 1.24 points


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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 6:51 PM
posted by Ironman92

And it’s more territory to cover for the defense. Not sure the exact but remember them talking about a pass in to the post being guarded yielded like .81 points whereas a 3 point attempt yielded like 1.24 points

Yeah, the math experts have definitely figured out that jacking up a decent three is better than a contested layup attempt. IE, a 3-2 fast break or something. But there has to be some sort of balance, imo, to actually open up decent looks. If you dont even attemmpt to go inside, I dont think a bunch of 3s is successful

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 7:19 PM

So am I looking at this right that Portland will play one more game than Phoenix and Memphis? Phoenix literally won all 8 games in the bubble but are still likely missing the playoffs.

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 7:24 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

So am I looking at this right that Portland will play one more game than Phoenix and Memphis? Phoenix literally won all 8 games in the bubble but are still likely missing the playoffs.

If the Nets beat Portland tonight, Grizz/Suns play 1 or 2 play-in games for the 8 seed. If Portland wins tonight, they get it  


wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 7:25 PM
posted by wildcats20

If the Nets beat Portland tonight, Grizz/Suns play 1 or 2 play-in games for the 8 seed. If Portland wins tonight, they get it  


Ignore this. 

If Portland wins, they play Memphis in the play-in. If the Nets win, the Suns play Memphis.


friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 7:36 PM

Right. So at the moment all three are 34-39, but Portland will play their 74th game tonight, giving them a chance to be in outright?

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 7:40 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

Right. So at the moment all three are 34-39, but Portland will play their 74th game tonight, giving them a chance to be in outright?

No. There is a play-in “tournament” no matter what because there are 2 teams within 4 games of the 8 spot. Records don’t necessarily “matter” all that much, as far as how many games played. 


wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 7:40 PM

Q: How will the play-in tournament work?

If the team with the eighth-best record in its conference is more than four games aheadof the team with the ninth-best record in the same conference, no play-in tournament will be necessary. The final playoff berth will simply go to the team with the eighth best record (regular-season games + seeding games).

But if the team with the eighth-best record in its conference is four games or fewer ahead of the team with the ninth-best record in the same conference, then we'll have a battle for the final spot between those two teams.

The tournament will basically be a best-of-two series -- where the No. 9 seed will have to win two head-to-head matchups to take over the No. 8 spot.

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 7:46 PM

Personally, I think it’s is dumb. If you aren’t the 8 seed, you don’t make the playoffs. But since they brought soooo many Western Conf teams, they had to do something. 

33,369 posts 117 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Aug 13, 2020 7:57 PM

But yeah, the Suns will be fucked because they played a game less than Portland. But this was known going in, because teams hadn't played the same amount going into the bubble. So, they all agreed to go off winning percentage, not W/L, for seeding.

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 8:05 PM

What’s the tie breaker with Memphis and Phoenix? Memphis won more head to head matchups?

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 8:18 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

What’s the tie breaker with Memphis and Phoenix? Memphis won more head to head matchups?

I would assume so. 


friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 8:37 PM

Hope tonight’s game is good. I’d imagine Portland blows them out but it’d be fun to see it go down to the wire.

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Thu, Aug 13, 2020 10:57 PM

Portland struggling in the 3rd. Brooklyn is a sneaky entertaining team to watch. Can’t wait for Kyrie to ruin that chemistry next season. This game is prime for Lillard to go off in the 4th. 

33,369 posts 117 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Aug 13, 2020 11:43 PM

That was awesome. Wish Lavert hasn’t settled. Didn’t make a shot outside the paint all half, and was destroying them with finishes around the rim.

Oh well. 

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