dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Nov 30, 2009 11:15pm
I meant wishful thinking on Urban Meyer. I did notice the "shocked", that's why I lol'd with you, not at you.rock_knutne wrote:All wishful thinking? I don't think Stoops is a "pipe dream" at all. As for Meyer, notice how I said "shocked".:-/dwccrew wrote:LOL, all wishful thinking. Urban Meyer is 0% chance IMO. Kelly would be second and Stoops first choice if I were the ND AD.
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rock_knutne
Nov 30, 2009 11:24pm
First off, there are alot of disgruntled OU fans who want Stoops gone just like the idiotic OSU fans who call for Tressel's head when things don't go right. Second, Brian Kelly would KILL for the ND job. Finally, ND is still a special place, the history is legend, the facilities are second to none and YES, they can still recruit, if there's one thing Weis did do it was recruit highly rated talent to ND. If ND can get a coach who can develop these kids they'll be back sooner (no pun intended) rather than later.FairwoodKing wrote: I don't know who will be Notre Dame's next coach, but I know who won't. They won't get their first two or three choices. I bet it's not Stoops, Meyer, or Kelly. Stoops and Meyer are at two of the biggest programs in the country. They could go through a bad year or two (as Stoops is going through this year) without anyone calling for their heads. I think Kelly will stay pat at UC for a few more years and then go to the Big 10.
Let's face it, Notre Dame is not special any more. The days when ND could pull all the top recruits are over. The only thing ND has going for it right now is money. They get to keep all the bowl money since they are not in a conference and they have their deal with NBC. They are going to have to pay a fortune for their next coach, but they have the money to spend.
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rocket31
Posts: 460
Nov 30, 2009 11:26pm
this post is so full of fail i developed a headache from reading itFairwoodKing wrote: I don't know who will be Notre Dame's next coach, but I know who won't. They won't get their first two or three choices. I bet it's not Stoops, Meyer, or Kelly. Stoops and Meyer are at two of the biggest programs in the country. They could go through a bad year or two (as Stoops is going through this year) without anyone calling for their heads. I think Kelly will stay pat at UC for a few more years and then go to the Big 10.
Let's face it, Notre Dame is not special any more. The days when ND could pull all the top recruits are over. The only thing ND has going for it right now is money. They get to keep all the bowl money since they are not in a conference and they have their deal with NBC. They are going to have to pay a fortune for their next coach, but they have the money to spend.
Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
Nov 30, 2009 11:30pm
Notre Dame had 3 top 10 recruiting classes in a row, but they can't recruit anymore.
Notre Dame is the top story on every major sports news outlet, but they are not special anymore.
Notre Dame is the top story on every major sports news outlet, but they are not special anymore.
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wonderboy02
Posts: 12
Nov 30, 2009 11:58pm
When is the last time any of the "special" programs (OSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, etc) had a 3 year run where their bowl games were:
No Bowl at All vs. Nobody
Hawaii Bowl vs. Hawaii
GMAC Bowl (Mobile AL)vs. Central Michigan or Ohio
?
But it's great to hear they have 3 straight top 10 classes. That should do wonders for them sometime. Maybe next year they can play their bowl game in Toronto, DC, Boise, or Detroit. That would be "special"
Maybe next year they can create their own bowl. "We Wish it was 1945 Bowl" They can play Army or Yale.
No Bowl at All vs. Nobody
Hawaii Bowl vs. Hawaii
GMAC Bowl (Mobile AL)vs. Central Michigan or Ohio
?
But it's great to hear they have 3 straight top 10 classes. That should do wonders for them sometime. Maybe next year they can play their bowl game in Toronto, DC, Boise, or Detroit. That would be "special"
Maybe next year they can create their own bowl. "We Wish it was 1945 Bowl" They can play Army or Yale.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Dec 1, 2009 12:01am
So you agree they're special? :huh:wonderboy02 wrote: When is the last time any of the "special" programs (OSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, etc) had a 3 year run where their bowl games were:
No Bowl at All vs. Nobody
Hawaii Bowl vs. Hawaii
GMAC Bowl (Mobile AL)vs. Central Michigan or Ohio
?
But it's great to hear they have 3 straight top 10 classes. That should do wonders for them sometime. Maybe next year they can play their bowl game in Toronto, DC, Boise, or Detroit. That would be "special"
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2009 12:41am
how about:wonderboy02 wrote: When is the last time any of the "special" programs (OSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, etc) had a 3 year run where their bowl games were:
No Bowl at All vs. Nobody
Hawaii Bowl vs. Hawaii
GMAC Bowl (Mobile AL)vs. Central Michigan or Ohio
?
But it's great to hear they have 3 straight top 10 classes. That should do wonders for them sometime. Maybe next year they can play their bowl game in Toronto, DC, Boise, or Detroit. That would be "special"
Maybe next year they can create their own bowl. "We Wish it was 1945 Bowl" They can play Army or Yale.
no bowl
loss in outback bowl to south carolina
loss in outback bowl to south carolina
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Dec 1, 2009 12:56am
2 years that you have listed were when one of our worst coaches in history coached our team. So that is a good example of why ND needs to be smart about this hire. We hired a new coach and he has us on top of college football again, although the coach prior to him did have OSU on top alot as well.karen lotz wrote:how about:wonderboy02 wrote: When is the last time any of the "special" programs (OSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, etc) had a 3 year run where their bowl games were:
No Bowl at All vs. Nobody
Hawaii Bowl vs. Hawaii
GMAC Bowl (Mobile AL)vs. Central Michigan or Ohio
?
But it's great to hear they have 3 straight top 10 classes. That should do wonders for them sometime. Maybe next year they can play their bowl game in Toronto, DC, Boise, or Detroit. That would be "special"
Maybe next year they can create their own bowl. "We Wish it was 1945 Bowl" They can play Army or Yale.
no bowl
loss in outback bowl to south carolina
loss in outback bowl to south carolina
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2009 12:59am
I'm aware, I just posted that to show that it's possible to look at 3 year window on any of the "special" programs listed and find an example. There have been down years in every major program, although some posters feel OSU is exempt from this. I have said many times OSU has had one of the most successful programs over the last decade.
athlete37
Posts: 992
Dec 1, 2009 1:19am
PS, isn't that three year window the three years that preceeded Ohio State's first national championship in 30-40 years?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2009 1:21am
Why yes, now that you mention it...athlete37 wrote: PS, isn't that three year window the three years that preceeded Ohio State's first national championship in 30-40 years?
athlete37
Posts: 992
Dec 1, 2009 1:23am
Mark it down though, this has been in the works since shortly after the Pittsburgh loss. Look for an announcement Wednesday or Thursday (I can't remember which).
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2009 1:29am
I'd feel more comfortable if an announcement was made early tomorrow morning 
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Dec 1, 2009 1:32am
Two January 1st bowl games against SEC teams over three years is a bit different than two mid December bowl games against mid majors over three years.karen lotz wrote:how about:wonderboy02 wrote: When is the last time any of the "special" programs (OSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, etc) had a 3 year run where their bowl games were:
No Bowl at All vs. Nobody
Hawaii Bowl vs. Hawaii
GMAC Bowl (Mobile AL)vs. Central Michigan or Ohio
?
But it's great to hear they have 3 straight top 10 classes. That should do wonders for them sometime. Maybe next year they can play their bowl game in Toronto, DC, Boise, or Detroit. That would be "special"
Maybe next year they can create their own bowl. "We Wish it was 1945 Bowl" They can play Army or Yale.
no bowl
loss in outback bowl to south carolina
loss in outback bowl to south carolina
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 1, 2009 1:43am
Agreed but some of your bucknut brethren said the only bowls that matter since the BCS came into the picture are the BCS bowls. Again, OSU has had more success over the past decade than Notre Dame, no need to start that argument again.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Dec 1, 2009 1:47am
I've never understood this belief that there is a positive correlation between the date of the bowl and the prestige it carries. Assuming Notre Dame accepts the GMAC Bowl bid (any word on that?), they will play on January 6, is it more prestigious than the Sugar Bowl? Hell no.Cleveland Buck wrote: Two January 1st bowl games against SEC teams over three years is a bit different than two mid December bowl games against mid majors over three years.
And by the way, in 2000 and 2001, the SEC wasn't nearly as dominant as it was now. I wouldn't chalk up losses to "senile" Lou Holtz as any better than a victory over Hawai'i.
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DefianceBlu
Posts: 66
Dec 1, 2009 2:54am
So, who's the new coach at ND? I am still waiting for somebody who does know anything to post.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 1, 2009 10:23am
Brian Kelly can't get to South Bend fast enough so he can shout, "Look at me Ma...I'm the head coach of Notre F'n Dame!" But the Domers-In-Charge are going to dick around for a few days just to make sure they can't somehow lure Bob Stoops into their bottomless pit of ex-coaches which Kelly will be in 3 more years.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Dec 1, 2009 10:31am
Three now qualifies as a bottomless pit?
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Dec 1, 2009 10:38am
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4701416
This is a good read on Brian Kelly. Maybe he wouldn't be too bad. I'll starting thinking Bob Stoops isn't coming on Friday though.
This is a good read on Brian Kelly. Maybe he wouldn't be too bad. I'll starting thinking Bob Stoops isn't coming on Friday though.
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Teabagger
Posts: 43
Dec 1, 2009 10:41am
I agree, I'll believe Stoops isn't coming when another coach signs a contract. Until that happens, I am convinced He will be the new coachsjmvsfscs08 wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4701416
This is a good read on Brian Kelly. Maybe he wouldn't be too bad. I'll starting thinking Bob Stoops isn't coming on Friday though.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Dec 1, 2009 10:49am
I am hearing that Stoops' agent and ND could not hammer out the numbers in detail, and Bob says he is staying in Okla.
My opinion is that Stoops is using both schools. He may still go to ND
My opinion is that Stoops is using both schools. He may still go to ND
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rocket31
Posts: 460
Dec 1, 2009 11:07am
kelly should have always been the number one guy, and another thing that article fails to mention, he is *cheaper* than stoops as well....sjmvsfscs08 wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4701416
This is a good read on Brian Kelly. Maybe he wouldn't be too bad. I'll starting thinking Bob Stoops isn't coming on Friday though.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 1, 2009 11:20am
I thought it was posted on here about one poster having an inside source(or what ever the wording was) that Stoops was the next head coach.
112in84
Posts: 565
Dec 1, 2009 11:35am
Yea, the ND insider said Stoops is a done deal ?