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Roethlisberger accused of sexual assault...AGAIN

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Al Capone

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Mar 24, 2010 11:23 PM
rock_knutne wrote:
Al Capone wrote: What is queeny betting on? I may take some action.
This:
queencitybuckeye wrote:
gut wrote: Being accused IN CIVIL COURT of rape, which any nutcase could go after anyone. A case which appears completely bogus from the start.
I'll bet you $100 that he writes that woman a check. Does that mean he was guilty of rape? No. Does that mean that he behaved in a manner not 100% innocent? Absolutely yes.
Yeah, Ben is going to write a check to a lady he lodged a counter suit against.:rolleyes:
I want some of that action queeny.
Mar 24, 2010 11:23pm
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Al Capone

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Mar 24, 2010 11:26 PM
LJ wrote:
Al Capone wrote: ...
Hey Capone, why don't you tell me where you heard that Tress only wanted to recruit Roethlishberger to OSU as a TE?
It was one of his first pressers after Pittsburgh drafted him. He was asked why he didnt go to OSU. When I find 10 hrs of free time, I'll research it.
Mar 24, 2010 11:26pm
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gut

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Mar 24, 2010 11:29 PM
queencitybuckeye wrote: Saying the same thing over and over doesn't make it true. When a settlement is announced, will you be up front enough to admit that it means more than someone just wants it behind them? Because it does. It absolutely does and will.
Ben would have already settled that some time ago if he had any intention of doing so. And, no, 50K or even a few hundred k is not an admission of guilt because companies and people do, sometime, make financial decisions to just put it behind them. But Ben has in fact counter sued (it's the only defense he has against a bogus case). He has, in fact, refused to settle for peanuts and an admission of guilt.

Will you admit when the case is ultimately dismissed, or a jury finds in Ben's favor, that there was never any smoke but just an opportunist likely targeting Harrah's, at best, or a complete gold digger at worst?

This second girl's own sorority sisters apparently ripped her a new one on their facebook page before being ordered to take it down. Said she went willingly and emerged happy, but was an opportunist and could see her fabricating this. Are you going to apply your same airtight "where there's smoke there's fire" arguments to her? You know, the girl who had a lawyer before Ben did and has skipped follow-up interviews and refused to cooperate with police since the night of the incident? She appears to have done something very foolish and irresponsible, at best, and at worst is, in fact, an opportunist.

No matter how you want to paint it otherwise, a series of false allegations is still just a series of false allegations...and those sort of things tend to kind of feed off each other. Where there's smoke there's fire usually applies to criminal charges, not civil suits that can be brought for any reason no matter how frivolous and not criminal complaints thoroughly investigated by police and dropped (not like there's a particularly high hurdle for an indictment on sexual assault).
Mar 24, 2010 11:29pm
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LJ

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Mar 24, 2010 11:29 PM
Al Capone wrote:
LJ wrote:
Al Capone wrote: ...
Hey Capone, why don't you tell me where you heard that Tress only wanted to recruit Roethlishberger to OSU as a TE?
It was one of his first pressers after Pittsburgh drafted him. He was asked why he didnt go to OSU. When I find 10 hrs of free time, I'll research it.
Tress wasn't the coach when Ben was being recruited.
Mar 24, 2010 11:29pm
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gut

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Mar 24, 2010 11:39 PM
LJ wrote:
Tress wasn't the coach when Ben was being recruited.

All I remember seeing, I think in an article when Ben's coach passes, was that he was not heavily recruited....He signed with Miami at the start of his senior year, I think.

At the end of the year, OSU and some other big names came calling. Ben said he didn't want to be second choice and felt the Miami coach had earned his loyalty.

That's what he said, I'm sure other factors certainly played into the decision, like having to win the QB job at OSU and/or whether that was the best place to hone his craft.
Mar 24, 2010 11:39pm
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DeyDurkie5

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Mar 25, 2010 12:01 AM
Al Capone wrote:
DeyDurkie5 wrote:
Al Capone wrote: The latest out of Georgia is that Ben's accuser AND her friends are refusing to cooperate with authorities. HMMMMM.
sooooo, what you are saying is he...raped her?
I haven't forgot about our bet durkie boy.
Big Ben is still a rapist, regardless of the bet!


I can't wait till your avatar is "Big Ben is a RAPIST!!!!"
Mar 25, 2010 12:01am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 12:12 AM
DeyDurkie5 wrote: Big Ben is still a rapist
This is the bullshit I'm talking about. Sexual assault isn't exactly rape and clearly you don't know the difference in this case. Rape is sexual intercourse with out consent, clearly there was NO intercourse involved and for the hundreth time, he hasn't been charged with anything. I'm glad to see you haters are getting your rocks off on this when it could all be false or no charges are ever filed.
Mar 25, 2010 12:12am
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DeyDurkie5

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Mar 25, 2010 12:27 AM
rock_knutne wrote:
DeyDurkie5 wrote: Big Ben is still a rapist
This is the bullshit I'm talking about. Sexual assault isn't exactly rape and clearly you don't know the difference in this case. Rape is sexual intercourse with out consent, clearly there was NO intercourse involved and for the hundreth time, he hasn't been charged with anything. I'm glad to see you haters are getting your rocks off on this when it could all be false or no charges are ever filed.
It's pretty much the same thing, except that big ben is a rapist! LOL
Mar 25, 2010 12:27am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 12:37 AM
DeyDurkie5 wrote:
rock_knutne wrote:
DeyDurkie5 wrote: Big Ben is still a rapist
This is the bullshit I'm talking about. Sexual assault isn't exactly rape and clearly you don't know the difference in this case. Rape is sexual intercourse with out consent, clearly there was NO intercourse involved and for the hundreth time, he hasn't been charged with anything. I'm glad to see you haters are getting your rocks off on this when it could all be false or no charges are ever filed.
It's pretty much the same thing, except that big ben is a rapist! LOL

Honestly, are you that ignorant? Don't you think the accusations and possible charges would be labeled as "rape" if that were the case brought against him?
Mar 25, 2010 12:37am
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BR1986FB

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Mar 25, 2010 5:35 AM
Al Capone wrote: The latest out of Georgia is that Ben's accuser AND her friends are refusing to cooperate with authorities. HMMMMM.
Sounds like someone is getting paid to shut their mouth and let him get away with this TWICE.
Mar 25, 2010 5:35am
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queencitybuckeye

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Mar 25, 2010 6:32 AM
gut wrote:
Ben would have already settled that some time ago if he had any intention of doing so.
Really? What is the protocol, time wise, for someone who did something wrong to buy his way out? Is there some timeframe etiquete for this?
And, no, 50K or even a few hundred k is not an admission of guilt because companies and people do, sometime, make financial decisions to just put it behind them.
I'm aware that what the parties agree to say, but the reality is that the party that settles has done something wrong nearly every time.
But Ben has in fact counter sued (it's the only defense he has against a bogus case). He has, in fact, refused to settle for peanuts and an admission of guilt.
Yes, the "deep pockets" strategy again. Hopefully it doesn't work.
Will you admit when the case is ultimately dismissed, or a jury finds in Ben's favor, that there was never any smoke but just an opportunist likely targeting Harrah's, at best, or a complete gold digger at worst?
Cases. Plural. And yes, if both cases are dismissed with no settlement, I will admit that. OTOH, your passive-aggressive non-response to my question (answering a question with a question) means that your answer is different than mine.
This second girl's own sorority sisters apparently ripped her a new one on their facebook page before being ordered to take it down. Said she went willingly and emerged happy, but was an opportunist and could see her fabricating this. Are you going to apply your same airtight "where there's smoke there's fire" arguments to her?
Apparently? Come on, you're better than that. How about "I heard"?
You know, the girl who had a lawyer before Ben did
I'm not sure why you continue to attempt to spin Ben not getting a lawyer right away as anything other than the fact that Ben just isn't very smart.
No matter how you want to paint it otherwise, a series of false allegations is still just a series of false allegations
No, it's evidence that someone at the very best is making a series of poor decisions, and perhaps more.
Mar 25, 2010 6:32am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 7:20 AM
^^^^You want that bet loud mouth......$500?
Mar 25, 2010 7:20am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 7:21 AM
BR1986FB wrote:
Al Capone wrote: The latest out of Georgia is that Ben's accuser AND her friends are refusing to cooperate with authorities. HMMMMM.
Sounds like someone is getting paid to shut their mouth and let him get away with this TWICE.
You have proof or better yet..........link?:rolleyes:
Mar 25, 2010 7:21am
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Automatik

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Mar 25, 2010 7:32 AM
The first one was a CIVIL suit brought out months after the alleged "rape." That case screams BS. C'mon BR I thought you were smarter than that.
Mar 25, 2010 7:32am
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Fab4Runner

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Mar 25, 2010 7:39 AM
It is hilarious how worked up some people are getting over this...especially when it's clear that people are purposefully pushing their buttons because it obviously gets to them. I can't be the only one that finds all this entertaining, right?
Mar 25, 2010 7:39am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 7:44 AM
Fab4Runner wrote: It is hilarious how worked up some people are getting over this...especially when it's clear that people are purposefully pushing their buttons because it obviously gets to them. I can't be the only one that finds all this entertaining, right?

Have you read this thread? There's more than button pushing going on.
Mar 25, 2010 7:44am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 7:46 AM
queencitybuckeye wrote: My offer of a bet is open to you as well, sir. Care to back up your alligator mouth?

queeny.......still waiting or are you just blowing smoke?
Mar 25, 2010 7:46am
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vball10set

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Mar 25, 2010 7:47 AM
^^^LMAO--you're a frickin' psycho nut case!!!
Mar 25, 2010 7:47am
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Automatik

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Mar 25, 2010 8:01 AM
Button pushing or obvious stupidity? I'll go with the latter.
Mar 25, 2010 8:01am
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Fab4Runner

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Mar 25, 2010 8:01 AM
rock_knutne wrote:
Fab4Runner wrote: It is hilarious how worked up some people are getting over this...especially when it's clear that people are purposefully pushing their buttons because it obviously gets to them. I can't be the only one that finds all this entertaining, right?

Have you read this thread? There's more than button pushing going on.
No, no...it's button pushing at it's finest and you're falling for it every single time. You can't let a single post go...whether the person is joking, exaggerating, etc. Why do you let these people get you so worked up? You've stated multiple times that "NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED YET!!!"...you think people honestly don't know that? Sure they do. And yet...people still make jokes or say something outrageous. And even if someone actually makes a serious or valid statement you fly off the handle about that as well. You're just providing entertainment at this point.
Mar 25, 2010 8:01am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 8:30 AM
Fab4Runner wrote:
rock_knutne wrote:
Fab4Runner wrote: It is hilarious how worked up some people are getting over this...especially when it's clear that people are purposefully pushing their buttons because it obviously gets to them. I can't be the only one that finds all this entertaining, right?

Have you read this thread? There's more than button pushing going on.
No, no...it's button pushing at it's finest and you're falling for it every single time. You can't let a single post go...whether the person is joking, exaggerating, etc. Why do you let these people get you so worked up? You've stated multiple times that "NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED YET!!!"...you think people honestly don't know that? Sure they do. And yet...people still make jokes or say something outrageous. And even if someone actually makes a serious or valid statement you fly off the handle about that as well. You're just providing entertainment at this point.
Obviously you haven't read a damn thing. Some of these people actually believe what there posting but what ever! When you have people wanting to bet on a settlement, that's a little more than button pushing. BTW, don't like my posts or the so called "flying off the handle".........you have every right not to read or respond to them, after all this is a message board isn't it?
Mar 25, 2010 8:30am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 8:31 AM
Automatik wrote: Button pushing or obvious stupidity? I'll go with the latter.
Bingo!
Mar 25, 2010 8:31am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 8:33 AM
vball10set wrote: ^^^LMAO--you're a frickin' psycho nut case!!!
If anyone is the nut job it's you. Are you stalking me or something, you seem to show up after I make a post.
Mar 25, 2010 8:33am
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Fab4Runner

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Mar 25, 2010 8:45 AM
rock_knutne wrote:
Fab4Runner wrote:
rock_knutne wrote:
Fab4Runner wrote: It is hilarious how worked up some people are getting over this...especially when it's clear that people are purposefully pushing their buttons because it obviously gets to them. I can't be the only one that finds all this entertaining, right?

Have you read this thread? There's more than button pushing going on.
No, no...it's button pushing at it's finest and you're falling for it every single time. You can't let a single post go...whether the person is joking, exaggerating, etc. Why do you let these people get you so worked up? You've stated multiple times that "NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED YET!!!"...you think people honestly don't know that? Sure they do. And yet...people still make jokes or say something outrageous. And even if someone actually makes a serious or valid statement you fly off the handle about that as well. You're just providing entertainment at this point.
Obviously you haven't read a damn thing. Some of these people actually believe what there posting but what ever! When you have people wanting to bet on a settlement, that's a little more than button pushing. BTW, don't like my posts or the so called "flying off the handle".........you have every right not to read or respond to them, after all this is a message board isn't it?
I'm not going to argue with you about what I have and haven't read. As someone on the outside of this ridiculous argument I can clearly see what's going on. You can keep wasting time responding to every post (whether crazy or rational) if you'd like...but let me know how that works out for you. Ever hear that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result? Seems fitting.
Mar 25, 2010 8:45am
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rock_knutne

Mar 25, 2010 8:52 AM
Fab4Runner wrote: I'm not going to argue with you about what I have and haven't read. As someone on the outside of this ridiculous argument I can clearly see what's going on. You can keep wasting time responding to every post (whether crazy or rational) if you'd like...but let me know how that works out for you. Ever hear that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result? Seems fitting.
Who's responding to every single post? You know what, mind your own business, I don't need you to lecture me on wasting time.......it's a damn message board, get over yourself! You're as bad as these other haters and that's all it is, hate...........let me know how that works out for you?
Mar 25, 2010 8:52am