QuakerOats;1874850 wrote:Common sense.
You do know this isn't how stats and percentages work, right? Also, you did see the swath of military personnel and veterans I cited above, yes?
Methinks you use the term "sense" a bit too cavalierly.
QuakerOats;1874850 wrote:Although if you like a lot of data, fish posted a nice survey the other day.
Glad you brought that up. I had meant to comment on that.
From Fish's poll:
37% had a "favorable opinion" of the NFL already, which casts a pretty cloudy sample.
49% of those surveyed watch either the same amount of football as last year or more. The protests have been going on for over a year.
The question about why they're watching less would only apply to about half the people surveyed, since about half are not at all, in fact, watching less (but the fact that the question is even phrased that way tells you that the poll was not an impartial one).
It makes synonymous "stand " and "be respectful." This is an out-and-out false equivalence fallacy.
It asks that same question twice (including the primary interrogative question being verbatim in both instances), indicating that this was hardly a scrutinized or peer-reviewed poll. One fun little tidbit, however, is that the second one made mention of Donald Trump, and it only changed the results by a single degree, which would indicate that those supporting the right to protest are not, for the most part, swayed purely as a result of trying to be contrarians to Trump.
50% of those polled said they would either watch the same amount of football or more the next week as a result of the protests.
Finally, my favorite part. The demographics of the survey, as outlined IN the survey:
AGE%
18-29 9%
30-39 11%
40-49 19%
50-69 37%
70+ 27%
RACE%
White 63%
African-American 16%
Hispanic 16%
Other 5%
IDEOLOGY%
Conservative 40%
Moderate 41%
Liberal 19%
So, we're looking at a survey that was given to a sample of which 64% were over 50 years old, 63% were white, and there were over twice as many who identified as conservative as there were those who identified as liberal.
We've got a survey with a hilariously skewed demographic setup which was obviously not peer-reviewed, edited for mistakes, or devoid of logically fallacious poll questions, and you're calling it a "nice survey."
It's 'rah rah' bullshit for one side of the aisle. It's not credible, and it essentially implies as much in its demographic reporting.
QuakerOats;1874850 wrote:Or, you can run with the left-stream media who went out and found one 94 year-old vet who said he was ok with taking the knee.
Did you not see everything I posted above? If you did, perhaps you should re-read.
Even fish82's neo-con slanted poll doesn't back this up.
And assuming you read the whole article that you just posted, let me draw out another quote (my bold):
"In a recent Seton Hall Poll,
84% of respondents said they support the players’ right to protest. But only
35% said kneeling during the anthem was the right way to do it."
