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Sep 27, 2017 1:24 PM
Automatik;1873721 wrote:Link?
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,"

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-why-he-sat-during-national-anthem

And i don't care that much but he clearly said flag, wore Chavez shirts, pig socks, etc. Equality my ass. And weird how all these other people kneeling aren't being fired. Can we admit Kap sucks and his HATE comments are why he isn't on a team?
Sep 27, 2017 1:24pm
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Sep 27, 2017 1:53 PM
Automatik;1873727 wrote:So you're full of shit too.

GODSPEED.
Is okay to be wrong. Don't get butthurt.
Sep 27, 2017 1:53pm
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Sep 27, 2017 2:02 PM
I just watched Jason Whitlock giving his opinion on this issue. He asserts that these players are out of their role in that level of political speaking (going from mostly memory here but I'll add the link at the bottom) and so this is how they are "talking", that they are beyond their depth, that they're not experts in the cause that they are taking up. He also asserts that getting into these deep racial discussions are not something you can just go through during 2:30 minutes of a national anthem. AND, to top all of that off, he states that the lefties have baited these players into doing things that are really outside their roles/expertise
"because they want black people to take a non-strategic approach to their problems, because they don't want us to really address their problems."
https://youtu.be/a5h_YDRFQa0?t=709
Sep 27, 2017 2:02pm
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Sep 27, 2017 2:23 PM
Overall, I'm not a Whitlock fan, but every time he comments on this topic he nails it.
Sep 27, 2017 2:23pm
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Sep 27, 2017 2:38 PM
Automatik;1873748 wrote:Overall, I'm not a Whitlock fan, but every time he comments on this topic he nails it.
I've only listened to him 2, maybe 3 times, but I agree with you. He's got a lot of points that I agree with, very little that I disagree with, but he's very good at making his case.
Reps to your post, too!
Sep 27, 2017 2:38pm
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Sep 27, 2017 3:41 PM
Sep 27, 2017 3:41pm
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Sep 27, 2017 3:57 PM
So, it's all about Trump with you?
Sep 27, 2017 3:57pm
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Sep 27, 2017 4:36 PM
I'll stand for my country National Anthem and the America Flag, I bend my knee for God and Heroes.
Washed up football player is meaningless and his cause is moot. Thank you Autom spell check and careless not like others who are so critical hasn't made grammar mistakes
Sep 27, 2017 4:36pm
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Sep 27, 2017 4:41 PM
moot*
Sep 27, 2017 4:41pm
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Sep 27, 2017 4:47 PM
CenterBHSFan;1873756 wrote:So, it's all about Trump with you?
That's the problem, the original issue has been lost in lieu of the pissing match between the cheeto and the players.
Sep 27, 2017 4:47pm
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Sep 27, 2017 4:48 PM
Belly35;1873765 wrote:I'll stand for my country National Anthem and the America Flag, I bend my knee for God and Heroes.
Washed up football player is meaningless and his cause is mute
Thanks.
Sep 27, 2017 4:48pm
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Sep 27, 2017 4:50 PM
queencitybuckeye;1873767 wrote:That's the problem, the original issue has been lost in lieu of the pissing match between the cheeto and the players.
This.

“The issue of kneeling has nothing to do with race,” President Trump tweeted on Monday. “It is about respect for our country, flag and national anthem.”




The kneeling has a lot to do with race.
Sep 27, 2017 4:50pm
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Sep 27, 2017 4:58 PM
salto;1873769 wrote:This.

“The issue of kneeling has nothing to do with race,” President Trump tweeted on Monday. “It is about respect for our country, flag and national anthem.”




The kneeling has a lot to do with race.
It did, but I no longer think it does. Now it's more about "Fuck Trump".
Sep 27, 2017 4:58pm
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Sep 27, 2017 5:10 PM
queencitybuckeye;1873771 wrote:It did, but I no longer think it does. Now it's more about "Fuck Trump".
Maybe. Thank you Veterans for protecting our 1st Amendment rights, which allows this to happen.
Sep 27, 2017 5:10pm
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Sep 27, 2017 5:54 PM
Belly35;1873765 wrote:I'll stand for my country National Anthem and the America Flag, I bend my knee for God and Heroes.
Washed up football player is meaningless and his cause is mute
Damn Belly, So you respect your flag and anthem more than God and heroes?

Whoda thunk.
Sep 27, 2017 5:54pm
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Sep 27, 2017 5:58 PM
Looking forward to the Packers - Bears game tomorrow night.
Sep 27, 2017 5:58pm
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Sep 27, 2017 6:28 PM
salto;1873772 wrote:Maybe. Thank you Veterans for protecting our 1st Amendment rights, which allows this to happen.
No “maybe” about it really. Participation in Kneelism went from 10 to 200 after Trump interjected himself into the conversation.

Hardly rocket science.
Sep 27, 2017 6:28pm
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Sep 27, 2017 7:05 PM
fish82;1873777 wrote:No “maybe” about it really. Participation in Kneelism went from 10 to 200 after Trump interjected himself into the conversation.

Hardly rocket science.
Blame the media too. Simple fix is keep the camera's on the person singing the national anthem and NOT on the kneeling players. It would all go away.
Sep 27, 2017 7:05pm
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Sep 27, 2017 7:25 PM
salto;1873772 wrote:Maybe. Thank you Veterans for protecting our 1st Amendment rights, which allows this to happen.
what have you done to earn the right to abuse this privilege of freedom ...
Sep 27, 2017 7:25pm
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Sep 27, 2017 7:29 PM
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but I wanted to drop in with a story from the TNF Dolphins @ Bengals game from last season. A couple hillbillies were sitting behind us screaming "We don't kneel in Cincinnati!" over and over again as a few Dolphins players kneeled for the anthem. These guys were yelling throughout the entirety of the anthem. I find the act of screaming during the anthem a lot worse, and significantly more annoying.
Sep 27, 2017 7:29pm
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Sep 27, 2017 7:29 PM
Belly35;1873788 wrote:what have you done to earn the right to abuse this privilege of freedom ...
He's a US citizen?
Sep 27, 2017 7:29pm
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Sep 27, 2017 7:30 PM
kizer permanente;1873790 wrote:He's a US citizen?
LOL, right?
Sep 27, 2017 7:30pm
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Sep 27, 2017 7:31 PM
salto;1873772 wrote:Maybe. Thank you Veterans for protecting our 1st Amendment rights, which allows this to happen.
The 1st Amendment really has nothing to do with this. The NFL would be completely within their rights to stop it tomorrow.
Sep 27, 2017 7:31pm
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Sep 27, 2017 8:05 PM
justincredible;1873789 wrote:I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but I wanted to drop in with a story from the TNF Dolphins @ Bengals game from last season. A couple hillbillies were sitting behind us screaming "We don't kneel in Cincinnati!" over and over again as a few Dolphins players kneeled for the anthem. These guys were yelling throughout the entirety of the anthem. I find the act of screaming during the anthem a lot worse, and significantly more annoying.
Just like all the idiots who were booing and yelling this past weekend.
Sep 27, 2017 8:05pm
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Sep 27, 2017 8:16 PM
justincredible;1873792 wrote:The 1st Amendment really has nothing to do with this. The NFL would be completely within their rights to stop it tomorrow.
Exactly. Employers have pretty wide discretion toward employee behavior during work hours...especially that which can affect company revenue. They’re perfectly within their right to condone it or shut it down.

Owners could fire every kneeler tomorrow...and while I’m sure the players union would sue, the owners would win in court pretty easily.
Sep 27, 2017 8:16pm