Cleveland Cavaliers 2017-2018 Offseason

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superman
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Sep 4, 2017 8:36pm
TIL ETB and I might have some mutual friends.
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BR1986FB
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Sep 5, 2017 6:25pm
Sounds like the Cavs are now dangling that Nets 1st rounder they got from Boston in trade talks. They'd better get a friggin' haul if they move that pick.
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ernest_t_bass
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Sep 5, 2017 8:57pm
BR1986FB;1870081 wrote:They'd better get a friggin' haul if they move that pick.
Only question is "when is it most valuable?"
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BR1986FB
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Sep 5, 2017 9:22pm
ernest_t_bass;1870113 wrote:Only question is "when is it most valuable?"
Personally, I keep it. If Lebron commits after this season, then I maybe use it to add a major piece. If he leaves, you use it to rebuild. I'm not using that pick this year because, chances are, they fall short and if he bolts, the cupboard would be pretty bare.
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Sep 5, 2017 9:25pm
I am trading that pick now for a superstar. Lets go win a championship this year.
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Sep 5, 2017 9:31pm
SportsAndLady;1870118 wrote:I am trading that pick now for a superstar. Lets go win a championship this year.
Yeah this.
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superman
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Sep 5, 2017 10:09pm
SportsAndLady;1870118 wrote:I am trading that pick now for a superstar. Lets go win a championship this year.
I agree. The question is, who can they get?
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slingshot4ever
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Sep 6, 2017 2:10am
Rumor is trading that pick and Love for Anthony Davis
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BR1986FB
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Sep 6, 2017 7:35am
slingshot4ever;1870157 wrote:Rumor is trading that pick and Love for Anthony Davis
For a deal like this, yes I make the move but I'm not packaging that pick, with another player, for some crap sandwich like Wiggins (his name wasn't brought up, just an example).
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Sep 6, 2017 7:49am
The most shared rumor on twitter that appears to be completely made up is Shump and pick for Cousins.
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Sep 6, 2017 7:53am
GOONx19;1870172 wrote:The most shared rumor on twitter that appears to be completely made up is Shump and pick for Cousins.
Yup, that's being thrown around a lot by the pundits as well. AD is a pipe dream that isn't happening. I could see cousins for the pick though. If they get cousins, does that mean Love will be shipped off as well?
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kizer permanente
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Sep 6, 2017 8:15am
Pelicans haven't done anything with Anthony Davis so I can't say I'd see why he was off the table. I'm sure they'd want way too much for him. But I'd have to think they've already questioned if he's the man or not.
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Sep 6, 2017 8:58am
I like Love. I hate seeing him in trade talks. I personally feel like he is a piece to what makes the core. Of course, so was Kyrie, so...
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wkfan
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Sep 6, 2017 12:22pm
like_that;1870173 wrote:Yup, that's being thrown around a lot by the pundits as well. AD is a pipe dream that isn't happening. I could see cousins for the pick though. If they get cousins, does that mean Love will be shipped off as well?
Do. Not. Want.
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Sep 6, 2017 12:53pm
Id make the deal for Cousins immediately.

He is the best C in the league, and it allows Love to be a shooter/spread the floor 4. Since his weight loss, he has little to no inside game.

Obviously Davis would be better, because of the year left on contract. But I don't necessarily think skill (and injuries) make him a better player than Cousins.

And people were saying that George and Butler were pipe-dreams. They weren't. It didn't work out, obviously, but they were VERY attainable as we have come to find out. Its the NBA...I don't think anything is a pipe-dream anymore.
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kizer permanente
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Sep 6, 2017 1:02pm
wkfan;1870266 wrote:Do. Not. Want.
Davis or Cousins? and why not? (for both)
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Sep 6, 2017 1:45pm
Laley23;1870287 wrote:Id make the deal for Cousins immediately.

He is the best C in the league, and it allows Love to be a shooter/spread the floor 4. Since his weight loss, he has little to no inside game.

Obviously Davis would be better, because of the year left on contract. But I don't necessarily think skill (and injuries) make him a better player than Cousins.

And people were saying that George and Butler were pipe-dreams. They weren't. It didn't work out, obviously, but they were VERY attainable as we have come to find out. Its the NBA...I don't think anything is a pipe-dream anymore.
Agreed.
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Sep 6, 2017 4:06pm
Not to mention GS has never really had an answer to boogie.


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friendfromlowry
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Sep 6, 2017 8:43pm
If you make a trade though, don't the salaries have to semi match up? Or no?

Cousins and Davis are making $17 and $22 million/year.
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Sep 6, 2017 10:15pm
friendfromlowry;1870380 wrote:If you make a trade though, don't the salaries have to semi match up? Or no?

Cousins and Davis are making $17 and $22 million/year.
Shump/Frye/someone else would be the salary dump
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wkfan
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Sep 7, 2017 9:22am
kizer permanente;1870291 wrote:Davis or Cousins? and why not? (for both)
Cousins....don't like his demeanor and doesn't seem like a good 'team' guy.

Just don't think he is a good enough player to compensate for that
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kizer permanente
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Sep 7, 2017 12:32pm
wkfan;1870452 wrote:Cousins....don't like his demeanor and doesn't seem like a good 'team' guy.

Just don't think he is a good enough player to compensate for that
Well I mean for sure he'd have to buy in and understand he's going to lose some scoring chances. I guess I don't know him well enough to know if that's a long shot or not. His offense, I think, makes him def worth it though. That'd be a huge upgrade.

Also.. you have to be pretty certain he's going to resign to make it worth it.
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Sep 7, 2017 12:56pm
wkfan;1870452 wrote:Cousins....don't like his demeanor and doesn't seem like a good 'team' guy.

Just don't think he is a good enough player to compensate for that
Just trade Draymond for Cousins and the roles are reversed except Cousins is a lot better than Draymond.
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friendfromlowry
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Sep 7, 2017 2:20pm
Cousins has been fine in New Orleans right?
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Sep 7, 2017 6:43pm
https://tunein.com/radio/The-Vertical-Podcast-with-Chris-Mannix-p829140/

Podcast with Jason Lloyd Cavs insider about the Cavs trade. Essentially says what I've been saying, IT was a throw in.