Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 21, 2017 4:59pm
Id take Zingis back.Laley23;1863144 wrote:Kyrie doesn't care about winning, it appears. Wants to run a team and be the focal point, not LBJ...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 21, 2017 4:59pm
Miami doesn't have shit to give. NY Porzingis & Melo were mentioned. SA? The only thing I'd want would be Leonard and I think that's unrealistic. Minny? Wouldn't it be ironic if Wiggins ended up back here?wildcats20;1863138 wrote:Chris Haynes from espn:
ESPN Sources: On Kyrie Irving front, Cavs were given four preferred landing spots: New York, Miami, San Antonio, Minnesota.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 21, 2017 5:00pm
Back to my comment about dysfunctional, lollike_that;1863146 wrote:Smh, only in the NBA a team can go to three straight finals and then be in disarray with the same core roster.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 21, 2017 5:04pm
And again I can't put all blame on the FO. NBA players are dramatic as fuck and they are normally pulling the strings to fuck uo a good situation. The cavs aren't the first team to go thru this.BR1986FB;1863149 wrote:Back to my comment about dysfunctional, lol
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 21, 2017 5:11pm
No kidding it's not all on the FO. This is a collaborative effort.like_that;1863151 wrote:And again I can't put all blame on the FO. NBA players are dramatic as fuck and they are normally pulling the strings to fuck uo a good situation. The cavs aren't the first team to go thru this.
92.3 had Russillo (sp?) from ESPN on and even he implied this was a bitch move by KI and called him a "strange bird."
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 21, 2017 5:17pm
I keep saying it, but the owners gave all the power to the players during the CBA negotiations.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 21, 2017 5:19pm
Meanwhile, most NFL players, which is THE most popular sport, get screwed in many cases.like_that;1863157 wrote:I keep saying it, but the owners gave all the power to the players curing the CBA negotiations.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 21, 2017 5:23pm
I know the NFL has their issues (i.e. goodell being a POS), but they are the better product for fans, because they don't let the players run the league.BR1986FB;1863159 wrote:Meanwhile, most NFL players, which is THE most popular sport, get screwed in many cases.
Not to mention the culture of the league is "PAY ME." 95% of the time we see players leaving in FA only because they are getting a better offer financially.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 21, 2017 7:27pm
Go Tribe.
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cat_lover
Posts: 2,388
Jul 21, 2017 10:35pm
RepsGOONx19;1863181 wrote:Go Tribe.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jul 22, 2017 2:25am
James Jones leaves and everything immediately goes to shit.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jul 22, 2017 10:22am
Hahahahaha
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 22, 2017 10:41am
What's funny is we could trade kyrie and get better, while Detroit still blows dick. HahahahahaClassyposter58;1863240 wrote:Hahahahaha
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Jul 22, 2017 10:50am
LeBron needs to call RW and recruit him. Cavs trade KI for Russ.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 22, 2017 11:30am
Classy is on the path to being the next said.Crimson streak;1863241 wrote:What's funny is we could trade kyrie and get better, while Detroit still blows dick. Hahahahaha
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jul 22, 2017 7:10pm
If he wants away from Lebron (to be the focal point) why does he want to go to San Antonio? Or Minnesota where he will have to share the spotlight with Butler and KAT?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 23, 2017 12:36pm
http://deadspin.com/indianas-haul-from-the-paul-george-trade-is-looking-wor-1797171066/amp
Wasnt a pipe dream. Pritchard is just a terrible GM apparently.
Wasnt a pipe dream. Pritchard is just a terrible GM apparently.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 23, 2017 6:13pm
That's crazy smh. In other news looks like the kings are putting an offer for kyrie, giving up fox and koufos plus picks and possibly more. I wouldn't mind that deal at all. Fox is going to be a studLaley23;1863373 wrote:http://deadspin.com/indianas-haul-from-the-paul-george-trade-is-looking-wor-1797171066/amp
Wasnt a pipe dream. Pritchard is just a terrible GM apparently.
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 23, 2017 6:46pm
No chance would I trade Kyrie Irving for a rookie.
They better get a damn good haul for Irving.
They better get a damn good haul for Irving.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 23, 2017 8:11pm
Too bad they traded cousins for a bag of beans. I'd take Cousins and Fox for Kyrie, and then Cousins would BF the warriors in the paint as we win our 2nd championship.Crimson streak;1863416 wrote:That's crazy smh. In other news looks like the kings are putting an offer for kyrie, giving up fox and koufos plus picks and possibly more. I wouldn't mind that deal at all. Fox is going to be a stud
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Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 23, 2017 8:31pm
Would Pels trade for Kyrie?Commander of Awesome;1863423 wrote:Too bad they traded cousins for a bag of beans. I'd take Cousins and Fox for Kyrie, and then Cousins would BF the warriors in the paint as we win our 2nd championship.
I'd even try and get assets they wanted from a KI trade and ship that to NO if needed. Then ship Love out somewhere for a PG, sign Melo when he is bought out. Lol. CHAMPIONSHIP!
But seriously, I'd try and get Cousins from NO.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jul 23, 2017 9:25pm
No way in hell the Knicks would give up Porzingis for Kyrie. Melo doesn't want to be there so he will be gone soon. Kyrie wants to be the focal point for a team, and this will mean no other big names(top 15-20 players) will want to go there. Knicks would be stuck with Kyrie and that is it.
Kyrie for Cousins works financially and for the Pelicans, Kyrie and Davis is a good core to build off of. However on the Cavs side of things, with DMC being an expiring, once again the franchise is at the mercy of LeBron signing an extension. He signs, trade for DMC,but until then any move involving Kyrie should involve established players with contracts that would keep them in Cleveland, post LeBron, with a mix of a good young player or two.
Kyrie for Cousins works financially and for the Pelicans, Kyrie and Davis is a good core to build off of. However on the Cavs side of things, with DMC being an expiring, once again the franchise is at the mercy of LeBron signing an extension. He signs, trade for DMC,but until then any move involving Kyrie should involve established players with contracts that would keep them in Cleveland, post LeBron, with a mix of a good young player or two.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 23, 2017 10:11pm
Disagree completely. Cavs are in a year to year mode for titles. Who gives a fuck about 2018-19? Go win a title next year.sportswizuhrd;1863432 wrote:No way in hell the Knicks would give up Porzingis for Kyrie. Melo doesn't want to be there so he will be gone soon. Kyrie wants to be the focal point for a team, and this will mean no other big names(top 15-20 players) will want to go there. Knicks would be stuck with Kyrie and that is it.
Kyrie for Cousins works financially and for the Pelicans, Kyrie and Davis is a good core to build off of. However on the Cavs side of things, with DMC being an expiring, once again the franchise is at the mercy of LeBron signing an extension. He signs, trade for DMC,but until then any move involving Kyrie should involve established players with contracts that would keep them in Cleveland, post LeBron, with a mix of a good young player or two.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 23, 2017 10:49pm
I do agree with wizuhrd that they shouldn't trade 3 years of Kyrie Irving for possibly one year of a star player.
Whoever they trade Kyrie for, better be here for 2+ years.
Whoever they trade Kyrie for, better be here for 2+ years.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 23, 2017 11:03pm
As long as LeBron is here, Cavs will be win now year to year basis. As soon as he leaves/retires, they are gonna rebuild. Not trading for Cousins would be dumb just because he has 1 year. Either you like Cousins (or anyone) and think he helps win a title or not. If yes, make the deal if not, don't make the deal. But it shouldn't have anything to do with years.SportsAndLady;1863445 wrote:I do agree with wizuhrd that they shouldn't trade 3 years of Kyrie Irving for possibly one year of a star player.
Whoever they trade Kyrie for, better be here for 2+ years.
But that's just my thought process. I'm sure most disagree. But, to me, there is no "future" with the Cavs past LeBron. It becomes an immediate rebuild.