like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 19, 2017 8:35am
I'm not washing Gilbert of any blame, but to put it all on him is a complete joke. I would also venture to say that fanbases for 20 other NBA franchises would die to have an owner like Gilbert.BR1986FB;1862817 wrote:Even Stevie Wonder can see that Gilbert is pretty inept as an owner. He's good for two things, spending money (thank you) and turning over his front office constantly (not good). He's essentially a "Jerry Jones" of the NBA. Griff is gone because he wanted total roster responsibility and Gilbert said no because he wants to be able to help pick players. A good owner is going to be hands off. It's Gilbert's prerogative to want to have his fingers in the personnel pie but it usually doesn't equate to success.
The comment about Lebron had nothing to do with "hook, line & sinker." Even if he wasn't here and Gilbert were pulling the same shit he'd look just as inept in my eyes.
The cavs were bidding against themselves when the re-signed some key players, and that was all because of Lebron.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 19, 2017 10:05am
This isn't all on Gilbert, but it'd be nice if he could hire a GM.
Gilbert as an owner with some say in things did just win a championship. It's crazy to call him a bad owner who's only value is to spend money.
I'm actually okay with keeping the core the same, and adding some bench guys (which they've already done). I just hate that it's this difficult to get a GM here.
Gilbert as an owner with some say in things did just win a championship. It's crazy to call him a bad owner who's only value is to spend money.
I'm actually okay with keeping the core the same, and adding some bench guys (which they've already done). I just hate that it's this difficult to get a GM here.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 19, 2017 10:43am
Maybe if a certain player wasn't resorting to his typical passive aggressive posturing they would have a gm now.SportsAndLady;1862837 wrote:This isn't all on Gilbert, but it'd be nice if he could hire a GM.
Gilbert as an owner with some say in things did just win a championship. It's crazy to call him a bad owner who's only value is to spend money.
I'm actually okay with keeping the core the same, and adding some bench guys (which they've already done). I just hate that it's this difficult to get a GM here.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jul 19, 2017 11:04am
He really is exhausting. This offseason has been a big thumbs down IMO.like_that;1862845 wrote:Maybe if a certain player wasn't resorting to his typical passive aggressive posturing they would have a gm now.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 19, 2017 12:13pm
Believe me, LBJ is plenty to blame for their issues. Same thing happened his first go round with the organization. Bitch about not having pieces while you won't actively recruit.like_that;1862845 wrote:Maybe if a certain player wasn't resorting to his typical passive aggressive posturing they would have a gm now.
I do feel that had Gilbert not let Griff walk that he (Griffin) would've been creative enough to swing a deal for either PG or Butler. That's on Gilbert.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 19, 2017 12:18pm
I'm of the same belief as S&L. I don't necessarily think they need a Big 4 as much as they need to keep leads when LBJ goes off the floor versus turning them into deficits. If they would've had a legit bench, that Finals would've been closer.
I don't think this huge gap that they're talking about between the Cavs & Warriors is all that huge.
I don't think this huge gap that they're talking about between the Cavs & Warriors is all that huge.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 19, 2017 12:23pm
I don't think Griff gets PG. Whether the reports are true or not the pacers GM reportedly had no interest in trading with Cleveland. It was always a pipe dream.BR1986FB;1862857 wrote:Believe me, LBJ is plenty to blame for their issues. Same thing happened his first go round with the organization. Bitch about not having pieces while you won't actively recruit.
I do feel that had Gilbert not let Griff walk that he (Griffin) would've been creative enough to swing a deal for either PG or Butler. That's on Gilbert.
I am not saying Gilbert is perfect, but the media is so predictable and I can already see how they are trying to plant the seeds to turn this into another "LOL Cleveland fucks up again!!!" story if Lebron leaves. It's 100% bullshit and they can go fuck themselves.
Btw, Lebron was in Vegas working out and helping the cavs summer league team. The media of course didn't bother to report that.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 19, 2017 12:31pm
Nope, but of course they reported how he was "scouting" Lonzo Ball in one of his games to size up the next team (Lakers) he was going to play for. smdhlike_that;1862861 wrote: Btw, Lebron was in Vegas working out and helping the cavs summer league team. The media of course didn't bother to report that.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 20, 2017 11:29am
Sleeper about to commit suicide.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 20, 2017 11:31am
I was wondering what you were talking about and then the "Cavs in serious talks with derek rose" notification came on my phone.Laley23;1862944 wrote:Sleeper about to commit suicide.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jul 20, 2017 11:39am
Sounds good. Sign him.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 20, 2017 12:01pm
Did he get banned or is he just on hiatus? Haven't seen him post in awhile.Laley23;1862944 wrote:Sleeper about to commit suicide.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 20, 2017 12:02pm
This.friendfromlowry;1862948 wrote:Sounds good. Sign him.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 20, 2017 12:07pm
I'll take 18 ppg coming off the bench in relief of Kyrie. Just hope he's coming to join the Cleveland Cavaliers and not the Cleveland Clinic. 
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 20, 2017 12:10pm
He would be a great bench addition. He will obviously get the minimum so can't really bitch there. Low risk high reward
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Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 20, 2017 12:29pm
He asked to have his account deleted. It's not, but he still has voluntarily left for now.BR1986FB;1862951 wrote:Did he get banned or is he just on hiatus? Haven't seen him post in awhile.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 20, 2017 12:35pm
I'm surprised...btw, any word from Tiernan?Laley23;1862961 wrote:He asked to have his account deleted. It's not, but he still has voluntarily left for now.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 20, 2017 12:44pm
Except when he posts under isadore.Laley23;1862961 wrote:He asked to have his account deleted. It's not, but he still has voluntarily left for now.
Sleeper had a nice little butt hurt rage quit.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 20, 2017 12:44pm
Also I'd take rose too. He can't be any worse than Deron.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 20, 2017 12:53pm
Do tell? I missed this. Was it perhaps about politics? lollike_that;1862965 wrote: Sleeper had a nice little butt hurt rage quit.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jul 20, 2017 1:01pm
BR1986FB;1862968 wrote:Do tell? I missed this. Was it perhaps about politics? lol
Something in the politics forum got under his skin so he started this thread then basically quit.
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?48813-Safe-space
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 20, 2017 1:11pm
Yes, his own act drove him to cry and quit. It was pretty much self inflicted, which brings the lulz.BR1986FB;1862968 wrote:Do tell? I missed this. Was it perhaps about politics? lol
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 20, 2017 1:49pm
He won't be missed. Worst troll act I've seen.like_that;1862972 wrote:Yes, his own act drove him to cry and quit. It was pretty much self inflicted, which brings the lulz.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 20, 2017 2:03pm
He'll be back. The Ned Flanders "hi diddly ho" isadore act will get old.Commander of Awesome;1862978 wrote:He won't be missed. Worst troll act I've seen.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 20, 2017 7:48pm
You absolutely sign D Rose to be a backup to Kyrie. Apparently the Lakers are in talks with him as well.