BR1986FB;1859801 wrote:Well, since the media is where we get the information, it's expected that's where we'd get it from.....unless you have an inside "source", which nobody on here does.

friendfromlowry;1859805 wrote:Not all media info is worth paying attention to, though. That article you linked was from a Chicago douchebag who's been all over the place in the last 24 hours.

like_that;1859803 wrote:So, you're just going to trust every article like a blind sheep? Despite 90% of rumors being pure bullshit, there is absolutely no chance this guy is blowing smoke up your ass?

BR1986FB;1859808 wrote:No, not at all....but when most of the "bullshit" out there is that the Cavs management is "dysfunctional", after letting a GM who had constructed a roster that went to three straight NBA Finals, I'm not going to take it with a grain of salt. This dysfunctional label has been around for a while with them but most of it has been attributed to LBJ being passive/aggressive.

As you've said. it's a "bad look." Others might view DG's snap decision to release Griff, when he was still working the phones and had potential deals in place to build an opponent to match GSW's, as dysfunctional.

Al Bundy;1859804 wrote:I think the danger is in hiring someone like Billups who has no front office experience. This team has a window of a few years to win championships. If you hire someone learning as they go, it makes it very hard to get the right people. LeBron playing GM also makes this a difficult job for a first time GM.

SportsAndLady;1859809 wrote:"Snap decision"?

A media article yesterday said that griffin has known for several months that this would happen.

Which one are you going to believe?!

BR1986FB;1859808 wrote:No, not at all....but when most of the "bullshit" out there is that the Cavs management is "dysfunctional", after letting a GM who had constructed a roster that went to three straight NBA Finals, I'm not going to take it with a grain of salt. This dysfunctional label has been around for a while with them but most of it has been attributed to LBJ being passive/aggressive.

As you've said. it's a "bad look." Others might view DG's snap decision to release Griff, when he was still working the phones and had potential deals in place to build an opponent to match GSW's, as dysfunctional.

friendfromlowry;1859815 wrote:http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics/2017/06/buckley_cavaliers_are_losing_their_way_opening_the_door_to_the_east_for_the?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Here's Boston's version of the Chicago Sun Times article. I'm sure Washington and Toronto have a version, too. Whatever helps them come to terms with Cleveland curbstomping them for years now I guess.

BR1986FB;1859811 wrote:If this has been known for several months, why keep him around? Let him go right after the Finals so the new GM can try to start making moves. If Griff knew he was gone several months ago, why is he still trying to make deals? Gilbert wouldn't have let him near any roster decisions if change was about to take place. Makes no sense.

Crimson streak;1859835 wrote:Also cavs players have come out and said that they absolutely did not tell butler to not come to the cavs, that the story is completely false


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BR1986FB;1859801 wrote:Well, since the media is where we get the information, it's expected that's where we'd get it from.....unless you have an inside "source", which nobody on here does.

BR1986FB;1859937 wrote:Sounding more & more like this Gilbert/Griffen breakup may have had a lot to do with money. Griff was making between $1.5-$2M and was asking for $6-$7M? What will be a real bad look is if DG hires Billups at that $6-7M. Worse look? A new front office guy, with no experience (Billups), turns Gilbert down.

like_that;1859940 wrote:Link?

wildcats20;1859947 wrote:Amico saying the Pacers and Bulls were both asking for Kyrie in exchange for PG and Butler.

BR1986FB;1859949 wrote:One of the local guys, Tony Zarella, who's better known for his local Browns coverage, is proposing they deal KI for Chris Paul. He also proposed adding Melo, assuming he'd come for the vet minimum. Part of the reasoning behind it was that it would give the Cavs a Big Four and LBJ might not have a temptation to leave to go join buddies if the buddies were here. I thought it was stupid but it seems like everyone is throwing crap out there now.

friendfromlowry;1859952 wrote:He should lose his job for proposing that.

wildcats20;1859947 wrote:Amico saying the Pacers and Bulls were both asking for Kyrie in exchange for PG and Butler.

BR1986FB;1859956 wrote:So with the cap ($99M) being lower than projected (anywhere from $101M-$108M), will this effect the Warriors ability to resign Iggy & Livingston?

like_that;1859958 wrote:Probably not. They will probably pay the warriors to stay there.