iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Aug 23, 2017 10:11am
With JT and Bitonio playing, I think the line should be much improved and what makes me think is part of the reason they thought Kizer should be good to go. If our line was still terrible you wouldn't want to put a rookie out there (who takes long in the pocket) to get killed.vball10set;1868333 wrote:He's obviously the best of the three, but I sure hope he (and the Oline) are ready.
Also, was last weeks talking up Brock just some sort of BS out of camp or what?
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 23, 2017 10:18am
But it still matters. A HC always is going to set the precedent. He's always going to set the tone of the locker room. To say you don't care or it doesn't matter is a bit disingenuous imo.like_that;1868334 wrote:I honestly don't give a fuck what the rest of the team thinks. They all need to focus on playing better, before they start QQing about the coaching staff evalautions of their teammates.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 23, 2017 10:25am
In a season where the Browns will be going nowhere, excuse me for not giving a fuck if some players get butthurt, because they believe brock will give them a 5 win season instead of a 2-3 win season. Each player needs to focus on doing their job (whjich hasn't been done in the 10 years if you have been paying attention), before they start QQing about other jobs.kizer permanente;1868337 wrote:But it still matters. A HC always is going to set the precedent. He's always going to set the tone of the locker room. To say you don't care or it doesn't matter is a bit disingenuous imo.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 23, 2017 10:29am
I highly doubt any of the players think Brock would give them a 5 win season, and that's the whole point of this. It would have been safe for Hue to go with the veteran as far as looks go. It's not a secret the team thinks Kizer is better. Hence, the bad look from the players perspective.like_that;1868339 wrote:In a season where the Browns will be going nowhere, excuse me for not giving a fuck if some players get butthurt, because they believe brock will give them a 5 win season instead of a 2-3 win season. Each player needs to focus on doing their job (whjich hasn't been done in the 10 years if you have been paying attention), before they start QQing about other jobs.
Hue made the right move. I think you agree with that. You just don't care if it sent the right message. That's fine. But I think it does/did.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 23, 2017 10:38am
My post was based on reports that the players expect and want Brock to start the season.kizer permanente;1868340 wrote:I highly doubt any of the players think Brock would give them a 5 win season, and that's the whole point of this. It would have been safe for Hue to go with the veteran as far as looks go. It's not a secret the team thinks Kizer is better. Hence, the bad look from the players perspective.
Hue made the right move. I think you agree with that. You just don't care if it sent the right message. That's fine. But I think it does/did.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 23, 2017 10:44am
Ok. I haven't seen any of those. I saw Thomas expected BO to start, but he never indicated he'd prefer him. I've never heard any player say they prefer him? I have seen multiple players praise Kizer though.like_that;1868342 wrote:My post was based on reports that the players expect and want Brock to start the season.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Aug 23, 2017 11:33am
Osweiler isn't scheduled to play at all in the final preseason game which is unusual...unless they are trying to deal him. There's a rumor out there that the Browns may be in talks with the Colts regarding Osweiler. What's Andrew Luck's injury status???
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Aug 23, 2017 11:38am
This...iclfan2;1868335 wrote: Also, was last weeks talking up Brock just some sort of BS out of camp or what?
Con_Alma;1868352 wrote:Osweiler isn't scheduled to play at all in the final preseason game which is unusual...unless they are trying to deal him. There's a rumor out there that the Browns may be in talks with the Colts regarding Osweiler. What's Andrew Luck's injury status???
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 23, 2017 11:39am
Please be true.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Aug 23, 2017 11:42am
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 23, 2017 11:51am
I thought the same thing.SportsAndLady;1868331 wrote:Surprised they actually made the correct move
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 23, 2017 11:56am
Phllip Dorsett perhaps?
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 23, 2017 12:03pm
Given that the Texans had to give us a 2nd rounder to take Osweiler, I can't imagine there's a market for him.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 23, 2017 12:26pm
I'd take a box of footballs.kizer permanente;1868367 wrote:Given that the Texans had to give us a 2nd rounder to take Osweiler, I can't imagine there's a market for him.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 23, 2017 12:31pm
lol anything would be nice. Is anyone desperate enough to trade for him though? There's literally thousands of Brock Osweilers in the world that don't make 18 mil.like_that;1868368 wrote:I'd take a box of footballs.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 23, 2017 12:59pm
Oh yeah? Name 50.kizer permanente;1868369 wrote:lol anything would be nice. Is anyone desperate enough to trade for him though? There's literally thousands of Brock Osweilers in the world that don't make 18 mil.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Aug 23, 2017 1:13pm
If they want Oswiler, possibly deceased.Con_Alma;1868352 wrote:Osweiler isn't scheduled to play at all in the final preseason game which is unusual...unless they are trying to deal him. There's a rumor out there that the Browns may be in talks with the Colts regarding Osweiler. What's Andrew Luck's injury status???
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 23, 2017 1:15pm
Very pleased they are going with Kizer. Hopefully he shows well.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 23, 2017 1:29pm
How about you google every depth chart in the nfl and cfl and ex college QB's that aren't in either league and there's your answer.Commander of Awesome;1868371 wrote:Oh yeah? Name 50.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 23, 2017 3:12pm
Thousands huh? LOLkizer permanente;1868376 wrote:How about you google every depth chart in the nfl and cfl and ex college QB's that aren't in either league and there's your answer.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 23, 2017 3:37pm
Glad to know you appreciate Osweilers ability. Remind me to never listen to you when it comes to football. LOL (was the all caps lol right?)Commander of Awesome;1868404 wrote:Thousands huh? LOL
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 23, 2017 3:38pm
The joke went over your head.kizer permanente;1868414 wrote:Glad to know you appreciate Osweilers ability. Remind me to never listen to you when it comes to football. LOL (was the all caps lol right?)
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 23, 2017 3:43pm
There was a joke? It wasn't very good then.like_that;1868416 wrote:The joke went over your head.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 23, 2017 3:52pm
I think I get the joke. Everyone, including us, think Osweiler is terrible. I just think he's as terrible as a lot of people and you only think he's as terrible as most people. Lol. And we're arguing the degree of his terribleness! Lol. This definitely seems like a worthwhile argument lol
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 24, 2017 7:33am
Sounds like the front office's plan (not necessarily Hue's) was to start Kizer, in week 1, all along. Pretty shitty idea taking away reps from him so they could try to showcase Osweiler for a trade, imo.