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Sonofanump
Apr 20, 2017 9:45am
Perceived Math:
6th is worth 1600
12th is worth 1200
33- 580, 108- 78
52- 380, 145- 33
6th is worth 1600
12th is worth 1200
33- 580, 108- 78
52- 380, 145- 33
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 20, 2017 10:09am
If I were the Jets I would definitely keep pushing for #33/#108 if the Browns really want Trubs, but I'd settle for #52/#108. The Jets should get the better end of this deal, so an extra 50+ point swing their way in trade value seems fair.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 20, 2017 10:38am
What I don't get (and it obviously hasn't been verified) is that the Browns have supposedly been in love with Garoppolo since October. Unless the Patriots absolutely/positively will not trade him, why would you "settle" for the second best option (drafted QB) when you can get the guy you covet via trade? Obviously the Pats may be asking for a ton for JG but if he's your guy (and it's not ridiculous), do it.
Miles Garrett is the #1, odds on favorite of most franchises but if you LOVE a QB in this draft, why wouldn't you take him #1, since that's the most important position? I guess what I'm saying is "why settle for a QB when you might be able to trade for your guy?" If Trubisky's the guy you've wanted all along, he should be the #1 pick to ensure you get him. I'm not advocating they use that pick for him but if he's the guy you love, it would make sense.
Miles Garrett is the #1, odds on favorite of most franchises but if you LOVE a QB in this draft, why wouldn't you take him #1, since that's the most important position? I guess what I'm saying is "why settle for a QB when you might be able to trade for your guy?" If Trubisky's the guy you've wanted all along, he should be the #1 pick to ensure you get him. I'm not advocating they use that pick for him but if he's the guy you love, it would make sense.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Apr 20, 2017 12:20pm
I agree with your logic. Is it maybe that they're really confident they can move up to get him at a certain spot, with all of the picks they have? (Trubisky's not what I want...I'd move up from 12 for Lattimore or Hooker and that's about it)BR1986FB;1848937 wrote:What I don't get (and it obviously hasn't been verified) is that the Browns have supposedly been in love with Garoppolo since October. Unless the Patriots absolutely/positively will not trade him, why would you "settle" for the second best option (drafted QB) when you can get the guy you covet via trade? Obviously the Pats may be asking for a ton for JG but if he's your guy (and it's not ridiculous), do it.
Miles Garrett is the #1, odds on favorite of most franchises but if you LOVE a QB in this draft, why wouldn't you take him #1, since that's the most important position? I guess what I'm saying is "why settle for a QB when you might be able to trade for your guy?" If Trubisky's the guy you've wanted all along, he should be the #1 pick to ensure you get him. I'm not advocating they use that pick for him but if he's the guy you love, it would make sense.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 20, 2017 12:32pm
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 20, 2017 12:56pm
It was just me thinking out loud, more than anything. My mindset is that if Garoppolo, Cousins, Joe Schmoe, etc is the top guy that they REALLY want it's like by trading up for a guy like Trubisky (or whoever) is saying "oh well, didn't get OUR guy but at least we got a QB." I'm assuming they'd really like a drafted QB if they did that but why settle if you can get your guy and it's reasonable? I'm so tired of them getting the Weeden's & Manziel's (which were reaches) just because they need a QB.Benny The Jet;1848977 wrote:I agree with your logic. Is it maybe that they're really confident they can move up to get him at a certain spot, with all of the picks they have? (Trubisky's not what I want...I'd move up from 12 for Lattimore or Hooker and that's about it)
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 20, 2017 1:21pm
As a Browns fan, I would pretty fucking pissed if we gave up #33 to move up 6 spots.justincredible;1848929 wrote:If I were the Jets I would definitely keep pushing for #33/#108 if the Browns really want Trubs, but I'd settle for #52/#108. The Jets should get the better end of this deal, so an extra 50+ point swing their way in trade value seems fair.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 20, 2017 1:25pm
Yeah, I would be too. I don't expect the Jets would get that, it doesn't mean I'm not going to ask for it.Commander of Awesome;1848989 wrote:As a Browns fan, I would pretty fucking pissed if we gave up #33 to move up 6 spots.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 20, 2017 1:30pm
It would mark another time the browns lost on a trade with the jets.Commander of Awesome;1848989 wrote:As a Browns fan, I would pretty fucking pissed if we gave up #33 to move up 6 spots.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 20, 2017 1:50pm
What were the previous losses?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 20, 2017 1:54pm
When they traded down so the jets could draft sanchize. Yes in hindsight Sanchez is terrible, but the browns got me pennies compared to what most teams get for trading out of QB positions.justincredible;1849000 wrote:What were the previous losses?
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Sonofanump
Apr 20, 2017 3:53pm
Chansi Stuckey.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 20, 2017 4:18pm
He was part of the Braylon trade, right? Did the Jets send a pick as well?Sonofanump;1849035 wrote:Chansi Stuckey.
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Sonofanump
Apr 20, 2017 4:42pm
3rd, 5th, backup linebacker also sent, Stuckey was in the CFL in two years.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 20, 2017 5:16pm
Ugggh....Haden posting pics on his Instagram of him partying with Aaron Hernandez back in the day. I'm sure they were boys at Florida but kind of poor taste.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 20, 2017 5:29pm
TT and Kirksey liked the post too.BR1986FB;1849061 wrote:Ugggh....Haden posting pics on his Instagram of him partying with Aaron Hernandez back in the day. I'm sure they were boys at Florida but kind of poor taste.
I don't know how I would handle a good friend of mine turning into a murderer piece of shit, but i definitely wouldn't be making it public lol.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 20, 2017 5:48pm
Just not a good look.like_that;1849065 wrote:TT and Kirksey liked the post too.
I don't know how I would handle a good friend of mine turning into a murderer piece of shit, but i definitely wouldn't be making it public lol.
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Gardens35
Posts: 4,929
Apr 20, 2017 6:27pm
neck tat intelligence
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 20, 2017 7:09pm
NFL releases its schedule tonight. Can't wait to see where their 13-14 losses come from.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Apr 20, 2017 7:28pm
The opponents and home/away is already known...just a matter of which week each game islike_that;1849082 wrote:NFL releases its schedule tonight. Can't wait to see where their 13-14 losses come from.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 20, 2017 7:31pm
Yes, "where" as in which weeks they will have their losses.slingshot4ever;1849087 wrote:The opponents and home/away is already known...just a matter of which week each game is
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Apr 20, 2017 8:16pm
14 1 PM games
London at 930 AM
4 PM kick in LA
Couldnt even get a Thursday night game
London at 930 AM
4 PM kick in LA
Couldnt even get a Thursday night game
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Apr 20, 2017 8:21pm
Lol no primetime games. I thought you had to get one?
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Apr 20, 2017 9:04pm
Yeah, I thought everyone at a minimum got a Thursday night game...
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 20, 2017 9:45pm
Glad we didn't. I hate them. I want every game on Sunday at 10 am. Thanks.