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Feb 8, 2017 4:34 PM
QuakerOats;1836089 wrote:Intel CEO Brian Krzanich met with President Donald Trump today, announcing a $7 billion investment in an Arizona semiconductor factory.
Krzanich said that the Chandler facility, named Fab 42, would employ about 3,000 people at its peak in "high-tech, high-wage jobs."
More than 10,000 additional jobs would be created in support of the factory in surrounding areas, he said.
"This factory will produce the most powerful computer chips on the planet, powering the best computers, the best data centers [and] autonomous cars," he said.




Winning again today ...............hard to take.
This happened daily during Obama's presidency but he's a D so you ignored it.

Best President we've ever had because he rescued us entirely from the Republican Bush Recession.
Feb 8, 2017 4:34pm
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Feb 8, 2017 4:34 PM
QuakerOats;1836088 wrote:Run the calcs on where you would be if you had your 6.2% contribution plus your employer's 6.2% match, over a 45 year career, at various rates of return. Then take that massive nest egg, and peel off the earnings each year to supplement your retirement income, live well, and leave damn near the entire principle balance to your heirs. The numbers are very, very substantial.
1. Your numbers are off. Most employers match 50 cents to the dollar, so you contribute 6%, they contribute 3%. But your point is correct.
Feb 8, 2017 4:34pm
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Feb 8, 2017 4:41 PM
jmog;1836105 wrote:1. Your numbers are off. Most employers match 50 cents to the dollar, so you contribute 6%, they contribute 3%. But your point is correct.

Maybe you are talking about 401k Plans. Social security is 6.2% from your paycheck, and 6.2% complete match from your employer. Same for medicare, only the %'s are 1.45% each.
Feb 8, 2017 4:41pm
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Feb 8, 2017 4:45 PM
QuakerOats;1836109 wrote:Maybe you are talking about 401k Plans. Social security is 6.2% from your paycheck, and 6.2% complete match from your employer. Same for medicare, only the %'s are 1.45% each.
Thought you were talking 401k's as the remedy to replace SS.

If SS was in private funds like a 401k in mutual funds like a 401k where you could see it, move it, but never take out (you can a 401k) until retirement...then people would quickly see how bad the government is at running anything.
Feb 8, 2017 4:45pm
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Feb 8, 2017 5:18 PM
Yes, pyramid schemes are bad enough; putting BIG government in charge of one is suicidal.
Feb 8, 2017 5:18pm
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Feb 8, 2017 5:19 PM
The Dodge Momentum Index rose 3.9% in January to 142.6 (2000=100) from its revised December reading of 137.3. The Momentum Index is a monthly measure of the first (or initial) report for nonresidential building projects in planning, which have been shown to lead construction spending for nonresidential buildings by a full year.



Buckle up.
Feb 8, 2017 5:19pm
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Feb 8, 2017 5:20 PM
QuakerOats;1836136 wrote:Yes, pyramid schemes are bad enough; putting BIG government in charge of one is suicidal.
Great Depression. October 1929 - 1939.

Google it. That's what happens when you put the free market in charge of everything with no oversight.

We will not go backwards.
Feb 8, 2017 5:20pm
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Feb 8, 2017 7:47 PM
Gorsuch called Trump out for talking about judges. Good.


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Feb 8, 2017 7:47pm
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Feb 8, 2017 8:25 PM
Sessions confirmed.

Some very powerful people are shitting themselves.
Feb 8, 2017 8:25pm
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Feb 8, 2017 8:46 PM
superman;1836156 wrote:Sessions confirmed.

Some very powerful people are shitting themselves.
You might be right!
Feb 8, 2017 8:46pm
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Feb 8, 2017 11:43 PM
sleeper;1836138 wrote:Great Depression. October 1929 - 1939.

Google it. That's what happens when you put the free market in charge of everything with no oversight.

We will not go backwards.
More trolling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Great_Depression
Feb 8, 2017 11:43pm
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Feb 9, 2017 6:35 AM
It would be more fun if he was at least somewhat good at it. I'm hopeful that the level of suck is part of the shtick.
Feb 9, 2017 6:35am
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Feb 9, 2017 7:15 AM
I really don't have a problem with the government providing some form of a retirement floor in the guise of Social Security, but the system needs to be reformed to provide for the needs of future generations. This has been known for over 10 years, but the former President and Congress have continued to ignore it, and any suggestion of reform is immediately politically attacked as "cuts" to the most vulnerable...the elderly. Currently, the system is projected to "run out" of funds to provide full benefits somewhere around 2034....after which, the money taken in will no longer be enough to pay the promised benefits.
The way to move forward on this, is work out a way to fully fund SSI for people over say age 55( arbitrary negotiable age), for their lives, after which the system becomes a pay as you go system as a floor for future retirees. People younger than that arbitrary age would be allowed to put an additional certain percentage of their earned income away in tax free, government approved retirement accounts( consisting of various non risky investments) to supplement their SSI floor.
Feb 9, 2017 7:15am
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Feb 9, 2017 11:39 AM
fish82;1836205 wrote:It would be more fun if he was at least somewhat good at it. I'm hopeful that the level of suck is part of the shtick.

Since he's spoofing QQ, I'm guessing it is.
Feb 9, 2017 11:39am
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Feb 9, 2017 11:41 PM
iclfan2;1836150 wrote:Gorsuch called Trump out for talking about judges. Good.
First of all this is hearsay from Dick Bloomenthal who is a real ratfink. Aside from that I am curious as to why this pleases you. Specifically are you saying that the Judicial branch should not be publically criticized by the Chief of the Executive? Or is it Trump’s unstatesmanlike and uncouth method of criticism? Or something else?

I remember when President Obama criticized a SCOTUS decision during a state of the union address. Justice Alito shook his head clearly mouthing “not true”. Many conservatives were worked up into a lather over the audacity of Obama calling the majority of the SCOTUS out. The left likewise the disrespect of Alito’s response.

Just as then I see it as “good” to see the coequal branches of the federal government pushing against each other and even more so when it’s in the public eye. I’m just not fond of Trump’s methods.
Feb 9, 2017 11:41pm
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Feb 10, 2017 6:49 AM
majorspark;1836437 wrote:First of all this is hearsay from Dick Bloomenthal who is a real ratfink. Aside from that I am curious as to why this pleases you. Specifically are you saying that the Judicial branch should not be publically criticized by the Chief of the Executive? Or is it Trump’s unstatesmanlike and uncouth method of criticism? Or something else?

I remember when President Obama criticized a SCOTUS decision during a state of the union address. Justice Alito shook his head clearly mouthing “not true”. Many conservatives were worked up into a lather over the audacity of Obama calling the majority of the SCOTUS out. The left likewise the disrespect of Alito’s response.

Just as then I see it as “good” to see the coequal branches of the federal government pushing against each other and even more so when it’s in the public eye. I’m just not fond of Trump’s methods.
this.

Besides the courts do have some skin in this game in regards to a little overreach. THere isnt a person in this country that should want some judge all the way across the country legislating from the bench when it comes to immigration
Feb 10, 2017 6:49am
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Feb 10, 2017 7:49 AM
I agree with trumps criticism but not how he did it. He complains like a child. Don't do it on twitter and explain why it was dumb. And mostly I thought it was good so he looks more independent.


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Feb 10, 2017 7:49am
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Feb 10, 2017 8:04 AM
Thought I heard that the court that flipped this loses 90% of its decisions on appeal from higher courts.
Feb 10, 2017 8:04am
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Feb 10, 2017 9:22 AM
Yes - the 9th Circuit is often wrong (not to mention its far-left leanings).


And then there's this:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-syrias-assad-tells-yahoo-news-some-refugees-are-definitely-terrorists-182401926.html


Assad says some refugees are definitely terrorists. I wonder if any one of those terrorists ended up killing Americans, could the families of the victims seeks recourse against these 3 liberal judges.
Feb 10, 2017 9:22am
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Feb 10, 2017 9:26 AM
Of course, the left is discrediting Assad.
Feb 10, 2017 9:26am
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Feb 10, 2017 9:50 AM
How is that news? Of course it's "possible" that terrorists are hiding among the refugees. It's also possible that the Browns win the next 5 super bowls. I actually don't disagree with Trump that we need to very thoroughly vet these refugees. I'm just confused on how he thinks this isn't already sufficient and what more he plans to add? Again maybe if his EO wasn't a totally ill thought out cluster#*(& we'd have some answers on what exactly is inadequate in this process. Here's the full list of steps already in place

 Registration with the United Nations.

[RIGHT]2.[/RIGHT] Interview with the United Nations.

[RIGHT]3.[/RIGHT] Refugee status granted by the United Nations.

[RIGHT]4.[/RIGHT] Referral for resettlement in the United States.

The United Nations decides if the person fits the definition of a refugee and whether to refer the person to the United States or to another country for resettlement. Only the most vulnerable are referred, accounting for less than than 1 percent of refugees worldwide. Some people spend years waiting in refugee camps.

[RIGHT]5.[/RIGHT] Interview with State Department contractors.



[RIGHT]6.[/RIGHT] First background check.

[RIGHT]7.[/RIGHT] Higher-level background check for some.

[RIGHT]8.[/RIGHT] Another background check.

The refugee’s name is run through law enforcement and intelligence databases for terrorist or criminal history. Some go through a higher-level clearance before they can continue. A third background check was introduced in 2008 for Iraqis but has since been expanded to all refugees ages 14 to 65.

[RIGHT]9.[/RIGHT] First fingerprint screening; photo taken.

[RIGHT]10.[/RIGHT] Second fingerprint screening.

[RIGHT]11.[/RIGHT] Third fingerprint screening.

The refugee’s fingerprints are screened against F.B.I. and Homeland Security databases, which contain watch list information and past immigration encounters, including if the refugee previously applied for a visa at a United States embassy. Fingerprints are also checked against those collected by the Defense Department during operations in Iraq.

[RIGHT]12.[/RIGHT] Case reviewed at United States immigration headquarters.

[RIGHT]13.[/RIGHT] Some cases referred for additional review.

Syrian applicants must undergo these two additional steps. Each is reviewed by a United States Citizenship and Immigration Services refugee specialist. Cases with “national security indicators” are given to the Homeland Security Department’s fraud detection unit.

[RIGHT]14.[/RIGHT] Extensive, in-person interview with Homeland Security officer.

Most of the interviews with Syrians have been done in Jordan and Turkey.

[RIGHT]15.[/RIGHT] Homeland Security approval is required.

[RIGHT]16.[/RIGHT] Screening for contagious diseases.

[RIGHT]17.[/RIGHT] Cultural orientation class.

[RIGHT]18.[/RIGHT] Matched with an American resettlement agency.

[RIGHT]19.[/RIGHT] Multi-agency security check before leaving for the United States.

Because of the long amount of time between the initial screening and departure, officials conduct a final check before the refugee leaves for the United States.

[RIGHT]20.[/RIGHT] Final security check at an American airport.
Feb 10, 2017 9:50am
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Feb 10, 2017 1:22 PM
What Trump should've done is not single any countries out, shut down immigration for the 90 days and come up with a solution to start to re-vamp and implement the current rules we have. It's NOT easy to become a U.S. Citizen and I think any of us can agree that those who do it the right way have every single right and should be treated like any of us. However, the enforcement of this has become haphazard and subjective, deeming the entire process illegitimate. The American public has gotten used to it being this way, so when someone steps in and calls a timeout, people freak the fuck out.
Feb 10, 2017 1:22pm
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Feb 10, 2017 2:48 PM
Price confirmed for HHS today; fabulous.

REPEAL.
Feb 10, 2017 2:48pm
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Feb 10, 2017 4:02 PM
Azubuike24;1836529 wrote:What Trump should've done is not single any countries out, shut down immigration for the 90 days and come up with a solution to start to re-vamp and implement the current rules we have. It's NOT easy to become a U.S. Citizen and I think any of us can agree that those who do it the right way have every single right and should be treated like any of us. However, the enforcement of this has become haphazard and subjective, deeming the entire process illegitimate. The American public has gotten used to it being this way, so when someone steps in and calls a timeout, people freak the fuck out.
likely this will happen and the Dems will own it when nobody can get in
Feb 10, 2017 4:02pm
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Feb 10, 2017 4:25 PM
Azubuike24;1836529 wrote:What Trump should've done is not single any countries out, shut down immigration for the 90 days and come up with a solution to start to re-vamp and implement the current rules we have. It's NOT easy to become a U.S. Citizen and I think any of us can agree that those who do it the right way have every single right and should be treated like any of us. However, the enforcement of this has become haphazard and subjective, deeming the entire process illegitimate. The American public has gotten used to it being this way, so when someone steps in and calls a timeout, people freak the fuck out.
Easier said than done in today's globalized world. You would have to made exceptions for green card holders, foreign diplomats and their staff, and people already in the pipeline to a certain point.
Cool idea, but just impossible to execute today.
QuakerOats;1836595 wrote:Price confirmed for HHS today; fabulous.

REPEAL.
Cool, let me know when the R's actually bring a replacement to a committee vote in Congress....
Feb 10, 2017 4:25pm