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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 14, 2016 8:13pm
Lol.Ironman92;1824579 wrote:Washington will lose again but it's all moo IMO.
Yeah, I agree. I think Washington has a decent chance of losing to Washington State or in the PAC12 Championship against Colorado/USC/Utah.
Clemson probably isn't losing again. Sparty could play spoiler for Penn State, but since that game is in Happy Valley, I doubt it.
Even though OSU beat Wisconsin on their home field, a 2 loss B1G Champ is ahead of Ohio State since the committee values conference championships so much. In the end, if OSU wins out, it's gonna come down to if the committee is willing to look at what might be the best resume overall and put Ohio State in the playoff over a conference champ (and probably WITH another team from the same conference, which might also be unlikely).
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 14, 2016 8:38pm
Lol there is no way Wisconsin is getting in over Ohio st. Or penn st either. They both have 2 losses and Ohio st has by far way better wins than anyone in the country. You guys are out of your minds if you think a 2 loss team will jump Ohio st, just bc they won a conference championship and this is coming from a person who hates Ohio st. They control their own destiny.
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Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 14, 2016 8:50pm
I'm honestly not worried one bit. Just win.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 14, 2016 8:52pm
What if Washington State wins out giving them 3 top 25 wins and a PAC 12 champs?
What if Utah wins out??
Although the PAC 12 is down having 3 wins against top 25 opponent and a power conference championship might garner a committee discussion.
What if Utah wins out??
Although the PAC 12 is down having 3 wins against top 25 opponent and a power conference championship might garner a committee discussion.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 14, 2016 9:02pm
Ok even if they decide to give a PAC 12 team a bid, who gets in over Ohio st? There is no 1 loss team that has a better resume than ohio stateCon_Alma;1824584 wrote:What if Washington State wins out giving them 3 top 25 wins and a PAC 12 champs?
What if Utah wins out??
Although the PAC 12 is down having 3 wins against top 25 opponent and a power conference championship might garner a committee discussion.
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 14, 2016 9:04pm
Disagree with this.wildcats20;1824564 wrote:OSU won't be getting fucked if they miss the playoffs. Want to be in the playoffs? Don't lose to fucking Penn State, no matter how good either team is right now.
Ohio State went on the road in the OOC against a top 15 team (and a preseason playoff favorite). They played on the road in conference against two top 10 teams. Hosted a top 5 team and a top 25 team.
That is a brutal schedule and STILL they finished with just 1 loss. How many playoff teams in the past have had one loss? Almost all of them.
They should not be penalized because 3 of the best 10 teams in the country are in their same conference division, IMO.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 14, 2016 9:06pm
You think a B1G Ten Champ Penn State isn't gonna be ahead of OSU? They beat them head-to-head and would be a conference champ. No way in hell the committee picks Ohio State over Penn State. They might BOTH get in depending on what else has happened, but there's no way they would choose OSU over PSU in that scenario.Crimson streak;1824581 wrote:Lol there is no way Wisconsin is getting in over Ohio st. Or penn st either. They both have 2 losses and Ohio st has by far way better wins than anyone in the country. You guys are out of your minds if you think a 2 loss team will jump Ohio st, just bc they won a conference championship and this is coming from a person who hates Ohio st. They control their own destiny.
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Ohio State might have an argument over Wisconsin since they beat them, but I think the fact that Wisconsin would be a conference champ would outweigh that, unfortunately.
Still a lot of football left to play, though, so we'll see what happens.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 14, 2016 9:07pm
What if Nebraska beats Maryland and Iowa, and Wisconsin wins out and beats Penn State in B1G Championship, and Oklahoma wins at WVU and Ok State and Ohio State beats Michigan.Con_Alma;1824584 wrote:What if Washington State wins out giving them 3 top 25 wins and a PAC 12 champs?
What if Utah wins out??
Although the PAC 12 is down having 3 wins against top 25 opponent and a power conference championship might garner a committee discussion.
That would leave OSU at 11-1 with wins over (projected rankings after conference championships):
@Wisconsin #4
@ Oklahoma #6
vs Michigan #10
vs Nebraska #15 ----by 50+
No one could touch that.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Nov 14, 2016 9:10pm
By the way, I'm just trying to think like the committee. Obviously, I want Ohio State in the playoffs. I think they're one of the four best teams in the country, but in the end, I don't feel confident that the committee will put them in. Hopefully they win out and then we'll see.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 14, 2016 9:25pm
I honestly don't know. No one does right now...not even the committee. That's the point. The discussion would be interesting to hear but no matter what they publicly say I wouldn't discount the concern they might have for not considering a power 5 conference champ with top 25 wins.Crimson streak;1824585 wrote:Ok even if they decide to give a PAC 12 team a bid, who gets in over Ohio st? There is no 1 loss team that has a better resume than ohio state
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 14, 2016 9:29pm
Agreed. That seems like it would be the best body of work.Ironman92;1824589 wrote:What if Nebraska beats Maryland and Iowa, and Wisconsin wins out and beats Penn State in B1G Championship, and Oklahoma wins at WVU and Ok State and Ohio State beats Michigan.
That would leave OSU at 11-1 with wins over (projected rankings after conference championships):
@Wisconsin #4
@ Oklahoma #6
vs Michigan #10
vs Nebraska #15 ----by 50+
No one could touch that.
OSU needs Oklahoma to beat WVU
OSU also needs to hope/pray that politic, biased support for the power 5 stays out of the discussions. We've even read on here that you shouldn't be in if you don't win your conference.
Being concerned that those discussions will be had should be real.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 14, 2016 9:32pm
Agree with all of this.ironman02;1824588 wrote:...
Ohio State might have an argument over Wisconsin since they beat them, but I think the fact that Wisconsin would be a conference champ would outweigh that, unfortunately.
Still a lot of football left to play, though, so we'll see what happens.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 14, 2016 9:35pm
Yes they would choose Ohio st over Penn st considering Penn st has 2 losses.ironman02;1824588 wrote:You think a B1G Ten Champ Penn State isn't gonna be ahead of OSU? They beat them head-to-head and would be a conference champ. No way in hell the committee picks Ohio State over Penn State. They might BOTH get in depending on what else has happened, but there's no way they would choose OSU over PSU in that scenario.
Ohio State might have an argument over Wisconsin since they beat them, but I think the fact that Wisconsin would be a conference champ would outweigh that, unfortunately.
Still a lot of football left to play, though, so we'll see what happens.
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Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 14, 2016 9:42pm
If OSU beats Michigan and remains #2 over Clemson.....0 chance of them not making it....if Clemson passes them this week or next week then the committee is setting up.
But in now what do I see any of it.
But in now what do I see any of it.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 14, 2016 11:03pm
Press box view after Iowa win
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 15, 2016 10:39am
I have no idea what these rankings will look like tonight, except #1....im not even convinced OSU will be #2
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 15, 2016 11:02am
I agree with this; but still doesn't change my mind OSU is a top 4 team this year.wildcats20;1824564 wrote:OSU won't be getting fucked if they miss the playoffs. Want to be in the playoffs? Don't lose to fucking Penn State, no matter how good either team is right now.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Nov 15, 2016 11:16am
If wisky wins the B10 title...both them and OSU are in
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Nov 15, 2016 11:28am
Like someone said earlier, I think the way the playoff rankings come out on the 29th, after UM game...that'll be your sign on what they plan on doing with OSU. If everything holds to form and none of the conference leaders take any more L's heading into conference championship games....and they still rank OSU #2, they'll get in regardless of how championship weekend plays out. But, if they slide them anywhere but #1 or 2, they're setting them up to get jumped after championship games.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 15, 2016 11:33am
IMO, the ONLY scenario that Ohio State is left out with 1-loss is the Alabama/Clemson/Washington/Penn State win out and win their leagues. They would reward the three 1-loss conference champs over OSU and it would be impossible to ignore the 2-loss Penn State with the conference title AND head to head win over OSU.
If anything from this exact scenario happens, OSU is in.
If anything from this exact scenario happens, OSU is in.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 15, 2016 11:34am
I don't disagree. Especially the way they are playing RIGHT NOW.sleeper;1824651 wrote:I agree with this; but still doesn't change my mind OSU is a top 4 team this year.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 15, 2016 11:52am
No fucking way notre dame gets a safetythavoice;1824557 wrote:77-2 buckeyes if that matchup happens....
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 15, 2016 12:24pm
Yeah I ignored the post. Has ND ever scored on OSU? Not in the 1920's or w/e, but in a year that actually matters.FatHobbit;1824669 wrote:No fucking way notre dame gets a safety
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 15, 2016 12:25pm
I still don't see penn st jumping Ohio st with 2 lossesAzubuike24;1824665 wrote:IMO, the ONLY scenario that Ohio State is left out with 1-loss is the Alabama/Clemson/Washington/Penn State win out and win their leagues. They would reward the three 1-loss conference champs over OSU and it would be impossible to ignore the 2-loss Penn State with the conference title AND head to head win over OSU.
If anything from this exact scenario happens, OSU is in.
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Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 15, 2016 12:48pm
I don't see Washington unless Nebraska/Ok free fallCrimson streak;1824679 wrote:I still don't see penn st jumping Ohio st with 2 losses
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