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Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Nov 13, 2016 10:12am

1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Louisville
5. Washington
6. Michigan
7. Wisconsin
8. Penn State
9. Oklahoma
10. Colorado

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Nov 13, 2016 10:33am

Classyposter58;1824243 wrote:1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Louisville
5. Washington
6. Michigan
7. Wisconsin
8. Penn State
9. Oklahoma
10. Colorado

I'll bite.

How do you have Washington over Michigan? Michigan lost on a last second FG to a 4 loss team on the road while Washington lost at home by 13 to a 3 loss team......I would like to call those losses even if you don't mind.

Let's say Stanford cracks the top 25 at #23 this week and Utah sits as high as #12.....those are Washington's best wins. Michigan has defeated Wisconsin who will be no worse than #6-7 AND Colorado who will be right around #10.....AND destroyed top 10 Penn State.

If you are aware of all of that (fair enough if you haven't delved into it) I see no way Washington can be above Michigan this week.

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Nov 13, 2016 10:47am

If Michigan beats Ohio State and then Wisconsin again and Colorado continues winning...

Michigan could end with 2 wins over a #10ish Wisconsin, a win over a #7-8 OSU on the road, a blowout wins versus about #8 Penn State and a 17 point victory vs a #7ish Colorado team.

That wold be quite impressive and put them at #2 in playoff rankings

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slingshot4ever

Posts: 4,085

Nov 13, 2016 11:05am

Classyposter58;1824243 wrote:1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Louisville
5. Washington
6. Michigan
7. Wisconsin
8. Penn State
9. Oklahoma
10. Colorado

this if you switch 5 and 6

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Nov 13, 2016 11:16am

slingshot4ever;1824250 wrote:this if you switch 5 and 6

Michigan and Louisville are tight IMO. Louisville clearly the better loss but 1 top 15 blowout win over FSU while Mich has 3 top 11 wins by 17 over Colorado, beat top 7 Wisconsin and destroyed top 10 Penn St

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Nov 13, 2016 12:34pm

I don't think OSU gets left out, even if they're not playing in the B1G title game...but, if they do, that'll be the second year in a row a Michigan loss keeps us from the B1G title game and playoffs. Which would really fucking suck.

sleeper

Posts: 27,879

Nov 13, 2016 12:35pm

SportsAndLady;1824256 wrote:I don't think OSU gets left out, even if they're not playing in the B1G title game...but, if they do, that'll be the second year in a row a Michigan loss keeps us from the B1G title game and playoffs. Which would really fucking suck.

Or beat Penn State?

Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Nov 13, 2016 12:59pm

Ironman92;1824246 wrote:I'll bite.

How do you have Washington over Michigan? Michigan lost on a last second FG to a 4 loss team on the road while Washington lost at home by 13 to a 3 loss team......I would like to call those losses even if you don't mind.

Let's say Stanford cracks the top 25 at #23 this week and Utah sits as high as #12.....those are Washington's best wins. Michigan has defeated Wisconsin who will be no worse than #6-7 AND Colorado who will be right around #10.....AND destroyed top 10 Penn State.

If you are aware of all of that (fair enough if you haven't delved into it) I see no way Washington can be above Michigan this week.

Michigans loss IMO was way worse than Washingtons. A 5-4 Iowa team held you to 201 yards of offense? USC is a top 10 with Darnold at QB and has looked awesome since making the switch

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Nov 13, 2016 1:39pm

Coaches Poll is out...

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Nov 13, 2016 1:47pm

Wisconsin ahead of Washington is funny lol

Also, I'm not opposed to Louisville at #3.

Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Nov 13, 2016 1:55pm

Clemson beats Louisville and the coaches rank them lower lol

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ironman02

Posts: 4,989

Nov 13, 2016 1:59pm

It seems like the coaches/AP are starting to adapt the mindset of the committee. They seem to care less about head-to-head and more about how teams are playing at the moment, or even overall resume. Washington's OOC SOS is killing them, and the fact that Clemson should have lost about 4 times already is in the mind of the voters too.

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Nov 13, 2016 2:07pm

AP Top 10

1. Alabama
2. Ohio St
3. Louisville
4. Michigan
5. Clemson
6. Wisconsin
7. Washington
8. Oklahoma
9. Penn St
10. West Virginia

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Nov 13, 2016 2:20pm

Classyposter58;1824264 wrote:Clemson beats Louisville and the coaches rank them lower lol

Stfu. It's one game. They don't do the rankings based only on head to head. Open your eyes.

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Nov 13, 2016 2:22pm

2nd highest ranked SEC team is 16th, LSU.

B1G has 5 in the top 20

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Nov 13, 2016 2:45pm

wildcats20;1824270 wrote:2nd highest ranked SEC team is 16th, LSU.

B1G has 5 in the top 20

Makes me more confident that OSU could beat Bama if that game happens. Bama is really good, probably the best team in the country. But they haven't played a very tough schedule. They're beating up on some bad and overrated teams.

Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Nov 13, 2016 3:39pm

SportsAndLady;1824269 wrote:Stfu. It's one game. They don't do the rankings based only on head to head. Open your eyes.

Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Sure they beat them but they're not better"

Spock

Posts: 2,853

Nov 13, 2016 4:06pm

SportsAndLady;1824269 wrote:Stfu. It's one game. They don't do the rankings based only on head to head. Open your eyes.

It should be the primary basis of everything else is even

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Nov 13, 2016 4:06pm

Classyposter58;1824258 wrote:Michigans loss IMO was way worse than Washingtons. A 5-4 Iowa team held you to 201 yards of offense? USC is a top 10 with Darnold at QB and has looked awesome since making the switch

Way worse lol. Washington lost by 13 at home to a team with 3 losses. The whole season counts...period.

You ignoring the 3 top 11 wins by Michigan whereas Washington has 0?

Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Nov 13, 2016 4:11pm

Ironman92;1824292 wrote:Way worse lol. Washington lost by 13 at home to a team with 3 losses. The whole season counts...period.

You ignoring the 3 top 11 wins by Michigan whereas Washington has 0?

I don't agree with this at all. OSU in the title year looked awful with Barrett, but improved to become college footballs best. USC will probably run the table and get a Rose Bowl berth at 10-3. You have to take into account how teams like Penn State, LSU and USC had an immediate improvement from a certain point

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Nov 13, 2016 4:20pm

Classyposter58;1824282 wrote:Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. "Sure they beat them but they're not better"

Do you think Iowa should be ahead of Michigan in the polls this week?

Spock

Posts: 2,853

Nov 13, 2016 4:21pm

Classyposter58;1824294 wrote:I don't agree with this at all. OSU in the title year looked awful with Barrett, but improved to become college footballs best. USC will probably run the table and get a Rose Bowl berth at 10-3. You have to take into account how teams like Penn State, LSU and USC had an immediate improvement from a certain point

No you don't. The whole idea for college football is body of work. It's exciting because every game is supposed to count for something.

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Nov 13, 2016 4:21pm

SportsAndLady;1824296 wrote:Do you think Iowa should be ahead of Michigan in the polls this week?

And Penn State ahead of OSU?

And Pitt ahead of Clemson?

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Sonofanump

Nov 13, 2016 4:39pm

I can't see the winner of OSU v UM not in the playoffs. (baring a loss in the title game if PSU is not there)

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queencitybuckeye

Posts: 7,117

Nov 13, 2016 5:25pm

SportsAndLady;1824263 wrote:Wisconsin ahead of Washington is funny lol

Based on it not being deserved or because you don't believe they could beat the Huskies? Based on the admittedly too small sample size of last night, Washington wouldn't piss a drop against Bucky.