sleeper;1800800 wrote:Okay. So explain how that helps Jordan?

Jordan is better than Lebron because of the team management office. Please. LOL

Spock;1800804 wrote:no you are changing your argument.......stay focused since you started this. your argument was how many games the "team won". front office decisions and the amount of $ spent has alot to do with winning games.

sleeper;1800806 wrote:And what does that have to do with Jordan vs Lebron?

Pretty incredible that when talking about the best of all time; the arguments for Jordan have been "Well the Bulls were managed better".

Weak. LOL

Spock;1800808 wrote:you made an argument that wasnt about JOrdan and Lebron. YOur argument was about how many games were won. My point is that managment and $ has alot to do with winning games. SOmetimes just as much as the actual players

SportsAndLady;1800810 wrote:Why are you guys responding to CC? The guy is a legitimate retard.

sleeper;1800814 wrote:Lebron left. The Cavs wins plummeted by 40.

Jordan left. The Bulls wins plummeted by 2.

Not sure how it can be any more obvious. Jordan had better teams, Lebron is the better player. Put Jordan on this Cavs team and they lose in the 1st round(Lebron has never lost in the first round, Jordan has 3 times).

Spock;1800821 wrote:Jesus.....Do you realize the players that Jordan had around him when he was winning those titles? His first 3 titles were with a bunch of nobody's. Sure the Bulls had good teams. Jordan was so good that just playing with him made those guys a 50 game winning team without him.

LJ is not Jordan when it comes to being the man.

sleeper;1800797 wrote:Then counter it. Jordan was handed a 50+ win team while Lebron's teams completely die without him. This is fact and reality.

like_that;1800760 wrote:FWIW both players at the age of 31 has 3 titles. Lebron had more MVPs though.

vball10set;1800767 wrote:IMO, LBJ is now in Jordan's atmosphere...however, it'll take a few more titles though to elevate him to GOAT

wildcats20;1800780 wrote:Jordan didn't have to collude with 2 other top 10 players to get a ring either.

Automatik;1800781 wrote: Do people not realize how fucking good Scottie Pippen was?

FatHobbit;1800841 wrote:I think most people forget and tend to think the players they are currently watching are much better.

I mean I know Wilt was a phenomenal athlete but I never saw him play. In my mind LeBron is much better, but there's really no way to know

FatHobbit;1800837 wrote:I've never had an issue with LeBron leaving to win a title, but like many others I hate the way he did. I'm still not 100% on the LeBron band wagon.

But the argument about how Chicago's front office was much better than Cleveland's has me wondering if LeBron never left Cleveland, would they have won a title last night? Or did he HAVE to do that to take control so that he could get the pieces he needed in Cleveland?

friendfromlowry;1800842 wrote:I also think people will never escape the mindset that the past was better. Lebron could go onto win 8 more titles, and knowing Spock personally, he'll still stick to his opinion that basketball/players of the 80s and 90s were better.

sleeper;1800738 wrote:To be considered unanimously best player of all time?

Does he need 6 championships? More MVPs? More FMVPs?

Al Bundy;1800884 wrote:This finals was the first time I felt LeBron truly had a killer instinct. He took over the games at times and said there was no way he would let his team lose. The killer instinct was something put MJ at a high level. If LeBron can keep that hunger, stay healthy, and win a few more titles. He will be considered the best ever. He will also be moving to the top of the list in many all-time stats in the next 5 years or so.

slingshot4ever;1800825 wrote:The Heat were not dead the last two years...

Commander of Awesome;1800828 wrote:FWIW, LBJ would fucking destroy Jordan.

Al Bundy;1800884 wrote:This finals was the first time I felt LeBron truly had a killer instinct. He took over the games at times and said there was no way he would let his team lose. The killer instinct was something put MJ at a high level. If LeBron can keep that hunger, stay healthy, and win a few more titles. He will be considered the best ever. He will also be moving to the top of the list in many all-time stats in the next 5 years or so.

thavoice;1800885 wrote:Probably the most accurate point I have read about LBJ in the comparisons. MJ just seemed like he would take over more often and will his teams to victory and it wasn't until now have ya seen that consistently out of James.

thavoice;1800885 wrote:Probably the most accurate point I have read about LBJ in the comparisons. MJ just seemed like he would take over more often and will his teams to victory and it wasn't until now have ya seen that consistently out of James.