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Jun 12, 2016 9:29 AM
Wonder if somehow related to the Christina Grimmie shooting.
Jun 12, 2016 9:29am
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Jun 12, 2016 9:40 AM
shooting up the gheys???? doesnt seem like usual terrorist target.
Jun 12, 2016 9:40am
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Jun 12, 2016 9:43 AM
Omar Mateen identified as shooter. Possible links to being influenced by Radical Islam. American Citizen born in New York.

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Jun 12, 2016 9:43am
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Jun 12, 2016 10:22 AM
50 dead, 53 injured
Jun 12, 2016 10:22am
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Jun 12, 2016 10:46 AM
Worst mass shooting in US history.

I sure hope people do not rush to judgement.
This will take time to filter the data and figure out the how and why.
Jun 12, 2016 10:46am
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Jun 12, 2016 11:08 AM
Muslim,
CNN said family from Afghanistan.
Jun 12, 2016 11:08am
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Jun 12, 2016 11:12 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1798849 wrote:Worst mass shooting in US history.

I sure hope people do not rush to judgement.
This will take time to filter the data and figure out the how and why.
How-with an assault rifle
Why- radical Islam

Didn't take any time at all
Jun 12, 2016 11:12am
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Jun 12, 2016 11:17 AM
news media will push gun control narrative.
Jun 12, 2016 11:17am
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Jun 12, 2016 11:26 AM
SportsAndLady;1798851 wrote:How-with an assault rifle
Why- radical Islam

Didn't take any time at all
Are you sure it was purely radical Islam, or was it a mix of anti-Gay and radical Islam? Did he know someone at the club? What set him off? Why did he chose this place?
If it was radical Islam, why did he talk to the SWAT team, or why did it take so long for the situation to end?

Jumping to conclusions is short sited and may miss the entire rational. Do not assume anything.
Jun 12, 2016 11:26am
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Jun 12, 2016 12:22 PM
I was hoping this wouldn't turn into a political discussion for at least 48 hours, because I agree let's see the facts. However, I was wondering what would happen first. The radical Islamists apologists come out, or the gun control advocates come out? Once we officially move on from the shock of this tragic event, I can already tell where ptown is leaning and its not even surprising.
Jun 12, 2016 12:22pm
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Jun 12, 2016 12:34 PM
For what it's worth, the father of the shooter said it wasn't his religion, but he hated gays. We'll see but I agree, let time sort it out.
Jun 12, 2016 12:34pm
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Jun 12, 2016 1:02 PM
Spock;1798852 wrote:news media will push gun control narrative.
no guns for Muslims
Jun 12, 2016 1:02pm
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Jun 12, 2016 1:15 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1798853 wrote:Are you sure it was purely radical Islam, or was it a mix of anti-Gay and radical Islam?
Aren't these one in the same? I'm fairly certain they kill gays over in the desert.

Not making a rush to judgment on this guy, could be a crazy Christian or whatever else as well.

Crazy though. Will be interesting to learn more details in the day to come. Terrible tragedy for all involved and families affected.


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Jun 12, 2016 1:50 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1798853 wrote:...or was it a mix of anti-Gay and radical Islam?
that would be a distinction without a difference
Jun 12, 2016 1:50pm
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Jun 12, 2016 2:04 PM
like_that;1798854 wrote:I was hoping this wouldn't turn into a political discussion for at least 48 hours,
well, Supreme Leader already went there at his presser...
Jun 12, 2016 2:04pm
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Jun 12, 2016 2:07 PM
gut;1798859 wrote:well, Supreme Leader already went there at his presser...
Is Obama retarded?

Does he actually think this wouldn't have happened if guns were illegal?

Cocaine is illegal, but if I wanted to get some, it would take me about 15 min.

Edit: also think it's funny Obama never mentions Isis, radical islam, etc. but plenty of gay, gun control, etc.

Get him the hell out of there
Jun 12, 2016 2:07pm
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Jun 12, 2016 2:31 PM
gut;1798859 wrote:well, Supreme Leader already went there at his presser...
SportsAndLady;1798860 wrote:Is Obama retarded?

Does he actually think this wouldn't have happened if guns were illegal?

Cocaine is illegal, but if I wanted to get some, it would take me about 15 min.

Edit: also think it's funny Obama never mentions Isis, radical islam, etc. but plenty of gay, gun control, etc.

Get him the hell out of there
Par for the course.
Jun 12, 2016 2:31pm
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Jun 12, 2016 2:35 PM
Let's guess the response...

"This is not Islam".

Well youknow what, it looks like a huge chunk of adherrant believe it is. Splitting hairs between whether or not this is a religious thing or an anti gay thing is pointless. This is a religion that preaches hate and death. It has no part of American life. Make no mistake, this is a war with the hate cult that's Islam. Subhuman zealots.
Jun 12, 2016 2:35pm
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Jun 12, 2016 2:39 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1798864 wrote:Let's guess the response...

"This is not Islam".

Well youknow what, it looks like a huge chunk of adherrant believe it is. Splitting hairs between whether or not this is a religious thing or an anti gay thing is pointless. This is a religion that preaches hate and death. It has no part of American life. Make no mistake, this is a war with the hate cult that's Islam. Subhuman zealots.
Killer was yelling Allah Akbhar and on a 911 call pledged his allegiance to ISIS. But let's not let facts get in the way of political correctness!
Jun 12, 2016 2:39pm
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Jun 12, 2016 2:49 PM
SportsAndLady;1798866 wrote:Killer was yelling Allah Akbhar and on a 911 call pledged his allegiance to ISIS. But let's not let facts get in the way of political correctness!
Did he really? Link?
Jun 12, 2016 2:49pm
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Jun 12, 2016 2:50 PM
GoPens;1798855 wrote:For what it's worth, the father of the shooter said it wasn't his religion, but he hated gays. We'll see but I agree, let time sort it out.
I don't recall an anti-gay suicide/byproxy killing before. Seems odd that it would not be religious.
Jun 12, 2016 2:50pm
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Jun 12, 2016 2:54 PM
A lot more coming out. This guy was known by the FBI as an ISIS sympathizer. His father also had ties to supporting the afghani taliban.


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Jun 12, 2016 3:05 PM
like_that;1798868 wrote:Did he really? Link?
It was reported on Fox News earlier today, and I'm seeing a lot of people tweeting about it. Guess it's not been 100% confirmed though.
Jun 12, 2016 3:05pm