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                                Oct 27, 2016 1:51pm
                            
                        Democrats never let the civil rights act get in the way of their warehousing blacks in return for votes. Only the locations and the names of the plantations have changed, from southern estates to urban HUD housing. Slavery lives on.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1819156 wrote:yeah blacks are definitely worse off now than 50 years ago! you're very smart!
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 2:09pm
                            
                        
                                lol what a psycho.
                            
                         
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                                Oct 27, 2016 2:33pm
                            
                        But I think he has a point. Public housing, food stamps, abortion, checks, healthcare and cell phones have been pushed at the inner cities for a long time (cell phones are newish).Automatik;1819175 wrote:lol what a psycho.
At this point in time, the government would save some money by consolidating all of those offices and distributing scrip in replacement.
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 2:47pm
                            
                        Automatik;1819175 wrote:lol what a psycho.
The psychos are those staring at the warehousing of blacks and the gifting of poverty, blight, crime, and lack of education, and then somehow arrive at the conclusion that this is ok and that democrats are the friend and advocate of blacks.
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 3:41pm
                            
                        
                                One of our employees, great worker, if I could hire 10 of him I would do it instantly...trying to give him a raise...he can't take it.  His wife can't get a job...because they aren't qualified? NO; because if they did they couldn't afford the medical coverage for their son without the government's assistance.  They are stuck forever with one income at a wage well below what I believe he is worth.  I am trying to encourage him to take the leap(even if it's a scary one) but what a system our government has created.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 3:53pm
                            
                        
                                After getting a whopping 30 people to attend his rally in Palm Beach two days ago, Tim Kaine abruptly cancels rally in Sarasota today.  Hilarious.  Meanwhile Trump and Pence are drawing tens of thousands at each rally, and obviously the media quashes all that.  The beat goes on....
                            
                         
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                                Oct 27, 2016 3:56pm
                            
                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:01pm
                            
                        Just one mans opinion but what I continue to believe this is, and we'll find out shortly if I'm right, is that Trump has a very vocal and passionate base. People who will put up yard signs and travel to a rally and talk about him on social media. While extremely passionate I do believe them to be in the minority overall. I know very few people voting for Clinton that do any of those things. There's no passion no desire to put up a yard sign or go to a rally. She's totally uninspiring. But when placed in a two way race against Trump will, I believe, win.QuakerOats;1819197 wrote:After getting a whopping 30 people to attend his rally in Palm Beach two days ago, Tim Kaine abruptly cancels rally in Sarasota today. Hilarious. Meanwhile Trump and Pence are drawing tens of thousands at each rally, and obviously the media quashes all that. The beat goes on....
It's been said so many times before, rallies do not equal wins, they equal passion. Trump crushes Hillary in that department. I don't think anyone is arguing that. Where the argument lies is that big rallies mean he's winning.
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:14pm
                            
                        Technically, this is an anecdote, which may or may not be an accurate representation of the whole, though I have heard other such accounts as well.bases_loaded;1819194 wrote:One of our employees, great worker, if I could hire 10 of him I would do it instantly...trying to give him a raise...he can't take it. His wife can't get a job...because they aren't qualified? NO; because if they did they couldn't afford the medical coverage for their son without the government's assistance. They are stuck forever with one income at a wage well below what I believe he is worth. I am trying to encourage him to take the leap(even if it's a scary one) but what a system our government has created.
However, the fact that this is even possible does seem to be a problem.
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:15pm
                            
                        Does your company not offer healthcare?bases_loaded;1819194 wrote:One of our employees, great worker, if I could hire 10 of him I would do it instantly...trying to give him a raise...he can't take it. His wife can't get a job...because they aren't qualified? NO; because if they did they couldn't afford the medical coverage for their son without the government's assistance. They are stuck forever with one income at a wage well below what I believe he is worth. I am trying to encourage him to take the leap(even if it's a scary one) but what a system our government has created.
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:18pm
                            
                         
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:20pm
                            
                        Even if they do, premiums may be more expensive than some of the subsidized options.sleeper;1819204 wrote:Does your company not offer healthcare?
Not to speak for him, but that is a possibility.
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:22pm
                            
                        rocketalum;1819201 wrote:Just one mans opinion but what I continue to believe this is, and we'll find out shortly if I'm right, is that Trump has a very vocal and passionate base. People who will put up yard signs and travel to a rally and talk about him on social media. While extremely passionate I do believe them to be in the minority overall. I know very few people voting for Clinton that do any of those things. There's no passion no desire to put up a yard sign or go to a rally. She's totally uninspiring. But when placed in a two way race against Trump will, I believe, win.
It's been said so many times before, rallies do not equal wins, they equal passion. Trump crushes Hillary in that department. I don't think anyone is arguing that. Where the argument lies is that big rallies mean he's winning.
I didn't say or imply he was winning. Merely pointing out that the corrupt media never shows the Trump rally crowds; if it were their candidate with such crowds, it would be plastered everywhere to make people think the way they want them to think. God this gets old.
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:26pm
                            
                        QuakerOats;1819127 wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/26/michael_moore_trump_victory_would_be_the_biggest_fk_you_recorded_in_human_history.html
pretty powerful
In addition to the above video with, of all people, Michael Moore's commentary, the article below is an exact parallel:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-ca-springsteen-trump-20161019-snap-story.html
Mahoning Valley / Springsteen / Trump ...............ironic how its all come full circle.
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:27pm
                            
                        Ask Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders how well Rally attendance translate to votes at the polls.QuakerOats;1819197 wrote:After getting a whopping 30 people to attend his rally in Palm Beach two days ago, Tim Kaine abruptly cancels rally in Sarasota today. Hilarious. Meanwhile Trump and Pence are drawing tens of thousands at each rally, and obviously the media quashes all that. The beat goes on....
Both of those candidates got absolutely dumpstered. Trump has zero chance of winning this election. Looking forward to HRC for the next 8 years.
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:31pm
                            
                        Essentially, this is the reason looking at rally turnout is irrelevant.sleeper;1819209 wrote:Ask Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders how well Rally attendance translate to votes at the polls.
The majority of people who vote don't attend rallies, and the most impassioned base may turn out huge numbers to rallies, but a disenfranchised, quiet majority will beat an impassioned minority nearly every time.
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:42pm
                            
                        Seriously, I am so looking forward to poll numbers on November 8th. Trump is going to get trounced like you wouldn't believe.O-Trap;1819210 wrote:Essentially, this is the reason looking at rally turnout is irrelevant.
The majority of people who vote don't attend rallies, and the most impassioned base may turn out huge numbers to rallies, but a disenfranchised, quiet majority will beat an impassioned minority nearly every time.
He won't win a single swing state and a few states will turn from red to blue. It's going to be a tremendous disaster and HRC is our gift.
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:43pm
                            
                        I can, just tell me what you want it to beO-Trap;1818464 wrote:Seriously, we need to vBookie this stuff.
Who knows how to set up a vBookie bet?
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:48pm
                            
                        Yet another pearl of wisdom.O-Trap;1819210 wrote:Essentially, this is the reason looking at rally turnout is irrelevant.
When obama had 30,000 in the Greek stadiums, by God it was a big deal.
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:50pm
                            
                        sleeper;1819209 wrote:Ask Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders how well Rally attendance translate to votes at the polls.
Bernie Sanders' rally attendance mattered little, given the fix was in. Even with the rigging, he nearly pulled it out, and he isn't even a member of the party.
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:54pm
                            
                        There was no fix. DNC did support one candidate over another and that is not right, but the voters ultimately chose HRC by millions of votes. It wasn't even close.QuakerOats;1819216 wrote:Bernie Sanders' rally attendance mattered little, given the fix was in. Even with the rigging, he nearly pulled it out, and he isn't even a member of the party.
Trump is going to get stomped. Time to accept reality.
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:57pm
                            
                        O-Trap;1819210 wrote:... disenfranchised, ...
Thank you for describing Trump supporters to a T.
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:58pm
                            
                        sleeper;1819217 wrote:There was no fix. DNC did support one candidate over another and that is not right, but the voters ultimately chose HRC by millions of votes. It wasn't even close.
I see, please explain the super delegate 'commitments'
 
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                                Oct 27, 2016 4:59pm
                            
                        The super delegates prevent a 'Trump' from hijacking the party.QuakerOats;1819219 wrote:I see, please explain the super delegate 'commitments'
Worked out well for them.
When do you start complaining about a HRC presidency? It's going to happen and Trump is going to get trounced. Enjoy!
                                        
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                                Oct 27, 2016 5:13pm
                            
                        
                                Thank you.  The hypocrites touting democracy and 'Stronger Together' are, in actuality, riggers of elections.  And the puppets such as yourself, fall neatly in line.  
Good luck.
                        Good luck.