Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)

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Heretic
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Nov 7, 2016 11:43am
I'll be happy to watch football next Sunday when all the commercials are off the air. Just from being a couch potato yesterday, all I could glean was that the two biggest pieces of shit in our nation's history are running for prez and a bunch of pieces of shit on a smaller scale are running for various state offices.
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thavoice
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Nov 7, 2016 1:58pm
Crimson streak;1822277 wrote:I think it will all come down to PA. If trump can flip PA I think he wins. One thing people aren't talking about in PA is the Amish vote. Living near the Amish country, they are paying people that will drive them to go vote, and none of there votes have been calculated into the polls. It will definitely be interesting to see if that has an impact or not.


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he wont win Pa.
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QuakerOats
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Nov 7, 2016 2:37pm
Trafalgar Group now with Trump up 2% in PA. Obviously if he happened to win there, it would be the knockout.

Early numbers from NC and FL also very favorable for Trump.
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ptown_trojans_1
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Nov 7, 2016 2:42pm
QuakerOats;1822356 wrote:Trafalgar Group now with Trump up 2% in PA. Obviously if he happened to win there, it would be the knockout.

Early numbers from NC and FL also very favorable for Trump.
Hmmm..no.

PA looks to be a lock for HC.
NC is a tie so far and the early voting in FL is all Hispanics, which does not look good for Trump.

538 still has HC winning PA with 77.1% confidence.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/pennsylvania/
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Nov 7, 2016 2:42pm
...I can't understand how any union member, tax paying American, or just one lick of common sense could possibly vote for that Democunt!
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ptown_trojans_1
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Nov 7, 2016 2:44pm
The numbers for Trump do not look good.
He has to sweep all the states and have a huge turnout. As others have mentioned, he has no ground game, so that is really unlikely.

538 now has Clinton has having a 68.3% chance of winning.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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sleeper
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Nov 7, 2016 2:47pm
The latest I've seen based on early voting is 323-215 HRC - Trump.

LOL. It'll be 16 years of having a Democrat as President. Enjoy!
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thavoice
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Nov 7, 2016 3:03pm
sleeper;1822362 wrote:The latest I've seen based on early voting is 323-215 HRC - Trump.

LOL. It'll be 16 years of having a Democrat as President. Enjoy!
Seems like we have a lot of Karl Rove's in here who just cannot accept that Trump is done and this is a lost election. What turned out as a joke in the beginning really fucked the repubs.
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jedbartlet02
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Nov 7, 2016 3:08pm
QuakerOats;1822356 wrote:Trafalgar Group now with Trump up 2% in PA. Obviously if he happened to win there, it would be the knockout.

Early numbers from NC and FL also very favorable for Trump.
A conservative, Canadian polling group showing Trump winning one of the bluest states in the country? Yea...I buy that
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sleeper
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Nov 7, 2016 3:10pm
thavoice;1822367 wrote:Seems like we have a lot of Karl Rove's in here who just cannot accept that Trump is done and this is a lost election. What turned out as a joke in the beginning really fucked the repubs.
I'm looking forward to the destruction of the GOP in its current form. It's desperately needed. 16 years of a Democrat in the White house and hopefully a few of those years with a blue Congress and the GOP will finally get its act together.
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Heretic
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Nov 7, 2016 3:13pm
4cards;1822360 wrote:...I can't understand how any union member, tax paying American, or just one lick of common sense could possibly vote for that Democunt!
Because of the opposition. Anyone with an actual brain can figure out that most people don't want Hillary, but REALLY don't want Trump.
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QuakerOats
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Nov 7, 2016 3:13pm
jedbartlet02;1822369 wrote:A conservative, Canadian polling group showing Trump winning one of the bluest states in the country? Yea...I buy that
I understand, they do not have access to the media elites' baked-in vote fraud numbers.
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QuakerOats
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Nov 7, 2016 3:14pm
ptown_trojans_1;1822359 wrote:Hmmm..no.

PA looks to be a lock for HC.
NC is a tie so far and the early voting in FL is all Hispanics, which does not look good for Trump.

538 still has HC winning PA with 77.1% confidence.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/pennsylvania/

Trump significantly ahead of Romney's early numbers in NC and FL.

Good luck.
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jedbartlet02
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Nov 7, 2016 3:15pm
thavoice;1822367 wrote:Seems like we have a lot of Karl Rove's in here who just cannot accept that Trump is done and this is a lost election. What turned out as a joke in the beginning really fucked the repubs.
I honestly can't wait to tune in Wednesday Night to Hannity and see him, Newt, and Rudy why Trump got beat. It'll be better than the movies
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jedbartlet02
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Nov 7, 2016 3:15pm
QuakerOats;1822374 wrote:Trump significantly ahead of Romney's early numbers in NC and FL.

Good luck.
And Hillary is above Obama's numbers

Good Luck
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thavoice
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Nov 7, 2016 3:17pm
sleeper;1822370 wrote:I'm looking forward to the destruction of the GOP in its current form. It's desperately needed. 16 years of a Democrat in the White house and hopefully a few of those years with a blue Congress and the GOP will finally get its act together.
Hell I remember it eing said 8 years ago that the party is gonna need to change, and bring forth a better candidate.

..and we got fucking Trump.
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ptown_trojans_1
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Nov 7, 2016 3:18pm
QuakerOats;1822373 wrote:I understand, they do not have access to the media elites' baked-in vote fraud numbers.
Do you honestly know how the polls are conducted, or are you just spouting talking points?
QuakerOats;1822374 wrote:Trump significantly ahead of Romney's early numbers in NC and FL.

Good luck.
Romney lost, and Hispanics are voting in larger numbers. Given the numbers, that is not looking good for Trump.
jedbartlet02;1822375 wrote:I honestly can't wait to tune in Wednesday Night to Hannity and see him, Newt, and Rudy why Trump got beat. It'll be better than the movies
I'm in the camp that Trump will not concede. He will not accept the results nor call HC the President that night. He will find a way to tie it up in the courts for a few days.
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Heretic
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Nov 7, 2016 3:18pm
QuakerOats;1822373 wrote:I understand, they do not have access to the media elites' baked-in vote fraud numbers.
I love how delusional you are.

"ANYTHING I DISAGREE WITH IS A LIB'RUL FRAUD!!!!"
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4cards
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Nov 7, 2016 3:38pm
Heretic;1822372 wrote:Because of the opposition. Anyone with an actual brain can figure out that most people don't want Hillary, but REALLY don't want Trump.
...my point being Trump to a degree is an unknown, but for sure you KNOW what you get with her. She will tax the shit out of the middle class, continue to ignore black America until she needs their vote, push the economic agenda in Asia and continue to make a fortune selling access to her and the Clinton Foundation.
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thavoice
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Nov 7, 2016 3:39pm
Trump doesnt care if he wins. He will make out like a bandit financially if he loses.
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QuakerOats
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Nov 7, 2016 3:58pm
4cards;1822389 wrote:...my point being Trump to a degree is an unknown, but for sure you KNOW what you get with her. She will tax the shit out of the middle class, continue to ignore black America until she needs their vote, push the economic agenda in Asia and continue to make a fortune selling access to her and the Clinton Foundation.

You must be a homophobe and xenophobe.
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QuakerOats
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Nov 7, 2016 4:00pm
ptown_trojans_1;1822381 wrote:Do you honestly know how the polls are conducted, or are you just spouting talking points?

Romney lost, and Hispanics are voting in larger numbers. Given the numbers, that is not looking good for Trump.



I'm in the camp that Trump will not concede. He will not accept the results nor call HC the President that night. He will find a way to tie it up in the courts for a few days.

Oh for God's sake. I said Trump is well ahead of Romney's numbers in FL and NC - two states that were close in '12. Ergo, he has a good chance to win those states.
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QuakerOats
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Nov 7, 2016 4:01pm
Heretic;1822382 wrote:I love how delusional you are.

"ANYTHING I DISAGREE WITH IS A LIB'RUL FRAUD!!!!"

Looks like your quote, not mine.
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jedbartlet02
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Nov 7, 2016 4:02pm
QuakerOats;1822398 wrote:Oh for God's sake. I said Trump is well ahead of Romney's numbers in FL and NC - two states that were close in '12. Ergo, he has a good chance to win those states.
Then you must also know Hillary is well ahead of Obama's number in '12
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QuakerOats
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Nov 7, 2016 4:03pm