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                                Oct 23, 2016 12:45pm
                            
                        
                                How long till we have a minority chick who is crying because Donald refused to meet with her because she was a minority. The parade of low lifes Hillary had been lining up isn't affecting his numbers enough. Time to spin it. 
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                                                                Heretic
                                                                            
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                                Oct 23, 2016 1:01pm
                            
                        That's true; he's been hovering at a solid 13% chance of winning for quite some time now.bases_loaded;1817970 wrote:How long till we have a minority chick who is crying because Donald refused to meet with her because she was a minority. The parade of low lifes Hillary had been lining up isn't affecting his numbers enough. Time to spin it.
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                                Oct 23, 2016 1:29pm
                            
                        If Adam Silver is your guy. Sure.Heretic;1817972 wrote:That's true; he's been hovering at a solid 13% chance of winning for quite some time now.
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                                Oct 23, 2016 1:58pm
                            
                        Pretty sure you mean Nate Silver. Although this election cycle, Adam Silver might have been as accurate.bases_loaded;1817979 wrote:If Adam Silver is your guy. Sure.
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                                                                gut
                                                                            
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                                Oct 23, 2016 3:04pm
                            
                        
                                lol....even Karl Rove is throwing in the towel on Trump
                            
                         
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                                Oct 23, 2016 4:12pm
                            
                        Karl Rove's eggs are in the establishment basket.gut;1818029 wrote:lol....even Karl Rove is throwing in the towel on Trump
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                                Oct 23, 2016 4:32pm
                            
                        Do you really believe that trump still has a chance?bases_loaded;1818046 wrote:Karl Rove's eggs are in the establishment basket.
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                                Oct 23, 2016 4:41pm
                            
                        I'd like to know as well.like_that;1818047 wrote:Do you really believe that trump still has a chance?
I think he has zero percent chance of winning.
 
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                                Oct 23, 2016 4:49pm
                            
                        Probably not but won't be surprised if he does. I think he takes Ohio, FL, and PA.like_that;1818047 wrote:Do you really believe that trump still has a chance?
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:01pm
                            
                        Come on man lolbases_loaded;1818049 wrote:Probably not but won't be surprised if he does. I think he takes Ohio, FL, and PA.
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:08pm
                            
                        
                                He asked what I thought man
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                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:19pm
                            
                        You really wouldn't be surprised if he won? He's losing every major poll by A LOT.bases_loaded;1818055 wrote:He asked what I thought man
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:26pm
                            
                        
                                Yes I don't understand how a guy drawing 30k to his opponents 200(maybe) can really be that far down.  I don't need to be right to justify my existence on a message board so going with what I'm feeling on it. Most likely will lose, won't be surprised if he wins, think it will be close. 
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                                                                sleeper
                                                                            
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:30pm
                            
                        Polls are far more reliable than rally attendance. Just ask Ron Paul or Bernie Sanders.bases_loaded;1818061 wrote:Yes I don't understand how a guy drawing 30k to his opponents 200(maybe) can really be that far down. I don't need to be right to justify my existence on a message board so going with what I'm feeling on it. Most likely will lose, won't be surprised if he wins, think it will be close.
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:37pm
                            
                        
                                Ron's largest crowd ever was 5,000 and he wasn't running for president. 
Doesn't matter though. I was asked for my opinion and gave it. Eastern PA will be too much to overcome so I'll go with NC to Trump instead.
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                        Doesn't matter though. I was asked for my opinion and gave it. Eastern PA will be too much to overcome so I'll go with NC to Trump instead.
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                                                                FatHobbit
                                                                            
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:37pm
                            
                        The fix was in against Bernie...sleeper;1818062 wrote:Polls are far more reliable than rally attendance...or Bernie Sanders.
 
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:37pm
                            
                        Trump is always going to get his supporters to vote for him. He's getting a shit ton of people at his rallies because his supporters are diehards. But he's not going after anyone else. His problem is he's so obsessed with pleasing his supporters, he isn't doing anything to convince the independents and undecided's to vote for him. And he needs them to win.bases_loaded;1818061 wrote:Yes I don't understand how a guy drawing 30k to his opponents 200(maybe) can really be that far down. I don't need to be right to justify my existence on a message board so going with what I'm feeling on it. Most likely will lose, won't be surprised if he wins, think it will be close.
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:40pm
                            
                        THe fix was in by the DNC. THe voting was pretty clear.FatHobbit;1818064 wrote:The fix was in against Bernie...
 
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                                Oct 23, 2016 5:42pm
                            
                        Ron's rallies were far larger than any of his opponents. He got dumpstered.bases_loaded;1818063 wrote:Ron's largest crowd ever was 5,000 and he wasn't running for president.
Doesn't matter though. I was asked for my opinion and gave it. Eastern PA will be too much to overcome so I'll go with NC to Trump instead.
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Likewise with Bernie, far larger than HRC, got dumpstered.
Trump is going to get dumpstered. It'll be called before 8pm on Tuesday.
 
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                                Oct 23, 2016 6:15pm
                            
                        [emoji847]SportsAndLady;1818065 wrote:Trump is always going to get his supporters to vote for him. He's getting a shit ton of people at his rallies because his supporters are diehards. But he's not going after anyone else. His problem is he's so obsessed with pleasing his supporters, he isn't doing anything to convince the independents and undecided's to vote for him. And he needs them to win.
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                                Oct 23, 2016 6:42pm
                            
                        
Just found this browsing Reddit
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                                Oct 23, 2016 10:31pm
                            
                        At this point the media and the dems don't care that we know thisbases_loaded;1818080 wrote:
Just found this browsing Reddit
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                                Oct 24, 2016 8:30am
                            
                        
                                The Clinton machine may be evil but they aren't dumb. "Rigging" the polling to show a massive landslide does not work in their favor. If anything it hurts her chances for two reasons 1.) those who were considering a third party vote but don't want to risk a Trump win go ahead and do so because they feel like she'll safely win and 2.) The (likely many) voters who dislike her but dislike Trump more stay home because they feel like she's got it in the bag and now they can keep a clean conscience by not voting for someone they didn't like. 
There's no value to polling showing a blowout if you're trying to fix things. IMO you'd want the opposite, show a close race so you can whip up votes... then win in a landslide.
                        There's no value to polling showing a blowout if you're trying to fix things. IMO you'd want the opposite, show a close race so you can whip up votes... then win in a landslide.
 
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                                Oct 24, 2016 9:23am
                            
                        
                                Not in this election. If your whole campaign is this guy is unfit to be president, you can't have polls showing you are losing to or barely beating him...it contradicts the story you've worked so hard to propagate.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Oct 24, 2016 11:11am
                            
                        gut;1818029 wrote:lol....even Karl Rove is throwing in the towel on Trump
Is that supposed to be a surprise; Rove is part of the establishment; he makes his living off it.