sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 24, 2016 11:13am
HRC will be our next President. Looking forward to you complaining every day.QuakerOats;1818198 wrote:Is that supposed to be a surprise; Rove is part of the establishment; he makes his living off it.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 24, 2016 11:15am
Ronald Reagan was down 8 points on October 26, 1980, and won in a massive landslide. The recent major media polls have an oversampling of democrats, which is why there is such diversion between several of those and the polls which have Trump even or ahead. The major media is using the age-old tactic of making it look like a blowout in order to suppress Trump turnout.SportsAndLady;1818058 wrote:You really wouldn't be surprised if he won? He's losing every major poll by A LOT.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 24, 2016 11:18am
Right.QuakerOats;1818204 wrote:Ronald Reagan was down 8 points on October 26, 1980, and won in a massive landslide. The recent major media polls have an oversampling of democrats, which is why there is such diversion between several of those and the polls which have Trump even or ahead. The major media is using the age-old tactic of making it look like a blowout in order to suppress Trump turnout.
Where do you buy your tin foil?
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 24, 2016 11:33am
The NBC/WSJ poll had a ratio of 44 dems / 37 repubs / 19 other
The Fox poll had a ratio of 43 dems / 36 repubs / 21 other
And Gallup had Carter up 8 on 10/26/80.
I can't help you further.
The Fox poll had a ratio of 43 dems / 36 repubs / 21 other
And Gallup had Carter up 8 on 10/26/80.
I can't help you further.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 24, 2016 11:42am
Trump won't break 200. I'm willing to bet on it; are you?QuakerOats;1818212 wrote:The NBC/WSJ poll had a ratio of 44 dems / 37 repubs / 19 other
The Fox poll had a ratio of 43 dems / 36 repubs / 21 other
And Gallup had Carter up 8 on 10/26/80.
I can't help you further.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 24, 2016 11:54am
I've already stated I have no idea who will win.
I see a path to 269 (which would do it) or 270, but that is in the face of the Media/Democrat Party/Clinton Machine triumvirate.
I see a path to 269 (which would do it) or 270, but that is in the face of the Media/Democrat Party/Clinton Machine triumvirate.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 24, 2016 12:01pm
You do know that shortly after that 1980 poll, there was another debate and in that debate, Reagan eviscerated Carter and essentially doomed his bid to repeat, right? Trump has no such opportunity and failed to take advantage of any of the ones he did have.QuakerOats;1818212 wrote:The NBC/WSJ poll had a ratio of 44 dems / 37 repubs / 19 other
The Fox poll had a ratio of 43 dems / 36 repubs / 21 other
And Gallup had Carter up 8 on 10/26/80.
I can't help you further.
I'm starting to think reality much have one of those lib'rul biases you're always bitching about, as averse as you seem to be to it.
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jedbartlet02
Posts: 178
Oct 24, 2016 2:43pm
You sound like Dick Morris 4 years agoQuakerOats;1818212 wrote:The NBC/WSJ poll had a ratio of 44 dems / 37 repubs / 19 other
The Fox poll had a ratio of 43 dems / 36 repubs / 21 other
And Gallup had Carter up 8 on 10/26/80.
I can't help you further.
When are you going to accept the fact that there are more registered Democrats than Republicans and that's why the sample is the way it is?
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jedbartlet02
Posts: 178
Oct 24, 2016 2:44pm
bases_loaded;1818080 wrote:
Just found this browsing Reddit
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Have you looked at the date on that email?
January 10th 2008
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rocketalum
Posts: 268
Oct 24, 2016 3:22pm
It's also in reference to doing polling research for advertising purchasing. There is a lot to go after in the wikileaks emails...this isn't one.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 24, 2016 3:24pm
jedbartlet02;1818260 wrote:You sound like Dick Morris 4 years ago
When are you going to accept the fact that there are more registered Democrats than Republicans and that's why the sample is the way it is?
Because the actual makeup is actually 29 dem / 26 repub/ 43 independent
Hope that helps
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Oct 25, 2016 9:14am
So is Pat Buchanan, yet you cite him with regularity.QuakerOats;1818198 wrote:Is that supposed to be a surprise; Rove is part of the establishment; he makes his living off it.
Let's just say the left wing and media are involved in this brilliantly coordinated conspiracy to steer election results, as you suggest. Putting aside the fact that in order to be successful, literally tens of thousands would have to be involved and that no profit loving publisher would go rogue to expose it in order to sell copies, do you really believe that conservative voters are so stupid that they cannot decide which way to vote on their own? Are they too simple to see the giant conspiracy, which is screamed about from numerous right wing news and opinion sources? Can they not figure it all out - as you have been able to do - and then drag themselves to the polls accordingly?
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Oct 25, 2016 4:17pm
Seriously, we need to vBookie this stuff.sleeper;1818214 wrote:Trump won't break 200. I'm willing to bet on it; are you?
Who knows how to set up a vBookie bet?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Oct 25, 2016 4:41pm
Exactly.QuakerOats;1818204 wrote:Ronald Reagan was down 8 points on October 26, 1980, and won in a massive landslide. The recent major media polls have an oversampling of democrats, which is why there is such diversion between several of those and the polls which have Trump even or ahead. The major media is using the age-old tactic of making it look like a blowout in order to suppress Trump turnout.
and with all the voter fraud that the democrats are rolling out for this election I expect more people to vote for hillary than the US actually has in population.
Just accept the fact.....both candidates are shit and its just that the democratic voters are going to vote for their shitty candidate more than the republicans are gonna vote for their shitty candidate.
Doesnt take a rocket scientist, or a Johnson supporter, to see that Hillary wins this one in a landslide.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Oct 25, 2016 8:18pm
Trump by 4
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Oct 26, 2016 9:03am
Thats the only way sleeper would ever be held accountable on all his bullshit bets.O-Trap;1818464 wrote:Seriously, we need to vBookie this stuff.
Who knows how to set up a vBookie bet?
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 26, 2016 9:53am
Spock;1818529 wrote:Trump by 4
As suspected.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 26, 2016 10:28am
?bases_loaded;1818820 wrote:Thats the only way sleeper would ever be held accountable on all his bullshit bets.
My bets are solid. That is the reality. I'm certainly a huge advocate for logging any bets.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 26, 2016 10:30am
Spock;1818529 wrote:Trump by 4
Up also in latest Bloomberg poll in FL.
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rocketalum
Posts: 268
Oct 26, 2016 10:44am
Unless Trump can flip some states that are currently blue by 5% or better, it may not matter. Clinton already at 272 when adding up all states in her favor by better than 5%...I know, rigged polls.
She could lose Ohio, NC, and Florida and still pull out a 272 to 265 victory.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html
She could lose Ohio, NC, and Florida and still pull out a 272 to 265 victory.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Oct 26, 2016 10:47am
This would be the first time in (polling) history where an Ohio loser would win the presidency, correct?rocketalum;1818833 wrote:Unless Trump can flip some states that are currently blue by 5% or better, it may not matter. Clinton already at 272 when adding up all states in her favor by better than 5%...I know, rigged polls.
She could lose Ohio, NC, and Florida and still pull out a 272 to 265 victory.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map.html
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rocketalum
Posts: 268
Oct 26, 2016 10:59am
I'm not 100% sure on your statement but safe to say it would be an extreme rarity. Ohio has voted for the winner in 28 out of the last 30 elections dating back to 1896.ernest_t_bass;1818834 wrote:This would be the first time in (polling) history where an Ohio loser would win the presidency, correct?
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Oct 26, 2016 2:57pm
gosh a ruddies Nixon beat Kennedy in Ohioernest_t_bass;1818834 wrote:This would be the first time in (polling) history where an Ohio loser would win the presidency, correct?
http://maps.ohioelectionresults.com/internal/P/1960
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Oct 26, 2016 3:07pm
I believe no REPUBLICAN has won without carrying Ohio in a long time('44 maybe?)ernest_t_bass;1818834 wrote:This would be the first time in (polling) history where an Ohio loser would win the presidency, correct?
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rocketalum
Posts: 268
Oct 26, 2016 3:40pm
For a Republican, it has never happened. In '44 Ohio voted Dewey who lost to Roosevelt. So it wasn't an instance of a Republican losing Ohio but winning the Presidency but it was one of the two times we've been wrong since 1896. The other Isadore mentioned was 1960 when we picked Nixon over Kennedy.bases_loaded;1818901 wrote:I believe no REPUBLICAN has won without carrying Ohio in a long time('44 maybe?)