Commander of Awesome;1783045 wrote:Yeah skinny knees. 2/10 would not draft

iclfan2;1783059 wrote:From all I've heard, both wentz and goff would be below Marion's and Winston.

Also, take the best qb period. If you think wentz will be better but will take a couple years of fine tuning TAKE HIM. We aren't winning now anyway.


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Commander of Awesome;1783088 wrote:MKC reporting browns have made offer to schwartz, but thinks he'll hit the market SMH.

BR1986FB;1783091 wrote:Heard Browns beat reporter Darryl Ruiter (92.3) reporting from the Combine that some of the local "buzz" is that there isn't a QB worthy of that #2 pick and Jackson made some kind of comment about "we're taking a QB in this draft, just may not be at #2." Obviously could be smoke.

like_that;1783093 wrote:This fits Hits' approach of trying to trade down. Just two issues, who would do it and how far can you go without fucking over getting the guy you want?

I still think there is about 97% we end up with Goff or Wentz after the #2 pick.

SportsAndLady;1783212 wrote:Who gives a shit about his hand size lol

Hand size has long been a boogeyman of sorts when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks, the idea being that guys with smaller hands can’t grip the ball in cold weather or put as much zip on their passes. I have no idea of there’s any real empirical data to back this assumption up—Alex Smith, Tony Romo, and Michael Vick all had small hand measurements at their combines, for what’s it worth—but the ol’ gunslinger Brett Favre has huge hands, so that’s enough to get scouts all worked up about hand size.

SportsAndLady;1783212 wrote:Who gives a shit about his hand size lol

BR1986FB;1783215 wrote:Actually, you do. If a QB has baby hands they aren't going to have an easy time holding on to the ball and it's likely going to affect the way they throw.

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An NFL football will measure 11" long with a 22" circumference at the midway point. Unless it is being used by the Patriots (joke Pats fans, joke), the air pressure should be between 12-1/2 psi and 13-1/2 psi.
A college ball (D1) will be just slightly smaller (1/2" in length and 1" circumference). While the NFL ball is only slightly larger, it still seems to play a part in the drafting of QBs. Hand size is scrutinized as much as anything. As we learned from the 'deflate-gate' issue, grip is very important.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-the-football-used-in-college-football-games-and-the-ball-used-in-the-NFL

SportsAndLady;1783220 wrote:I get that it helps. But there are plenty of examples of successful NFL qbs with hands less than 9 inches.

SportsAndLady;1783220 wrote:I get that it helps. But there are plenty of examples of successful NFL qbs with hands less than 9 inches.

Commander of Awesome;1783239 wrote:There are? Can you name 3?

BR1986FB;1783227 wrote:Duh? Why wouldn't they with the limited amount of talent on this squad?

From everything I've seen & heard, it looks like Gordon is in, pardon the expression, beast mode. Looks like he's in incredible shape & focused on returning.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/browns-open-suspended-gordon-returning-team-181055385--nfl.html

like_that;1783261 wrote:Heretic already posted an article.

Commander of Awesome;1783263 wrote:And it listed Alex Smith, Tony Romo, and Michael Vick. Hardly a list of world beaters.

Smith is the definition of mediocre, Romo while good is a fumble machine (and hurt) and Mike Vick is probably the most athletic person to every play the position.

Iliketurtles;1783272 wrote:LOLfail that you think Romo is a fumble machine. Maybe you should go do some research and not listen to whatever BSPN tells you. Here is a list of currently players and their fumbles. This is just for regular season as it was easier to do.

	GP	FUM	FUM/GM
DALTON	77	13	0.1688
P MANNING	266	47	0.1767
NEWTON	78	16	0.2051
HASSELBECK	209	47	0.2249
STAFFORD	93	24	0.2581
ROMO	149	39	0.2617
RYAN	126	33	0.2619
PALMER	160	48	0.3000
BIG BEN	171	52	0.3041
WILSON	64	20	0.3125
FITZPACKTRICK	112	36	0.3214
BRADY	225	74	0.3289
RIVERS	164	55	0.3354
BREES	217	73	0.3364
A SMITH	126	45	0.3571
TANNEHILL	64	23	0.3594
RODGERS	126	46	0.3651
FLACCO	122	46	0.3770
CUTLER	134	51	0.3806
E MANNING	185	72	0.3892
VICK	143	56	0.3916
LUCK	55	24	0.4364