B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 17, 2016 7:07pm
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 18, 2016 8:37am
The exact quote..... the only qualifier there is "IF"."If there is a QB at #2 that is a best fit for our team, we need to go get him. It's my opinion we need a QB."
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 18, 2016 8:44am
Hopefully, Jackson gets to it and gets his D-Coordinator. Leslie Frazier is gone, Ray Horton may stay in Tennessee and I haven't heard much about Jim Schwartz. I believe, those are the only three names we've heard about that have actually run a defense.
I think it's imperative that Jackson, best known as an offensive guy (although he's coached DB's) gets a guy on the defense who's "been there, done that." No more O'Neill's or linebacker coaches who are getting promoted as a first time DC.
I think it's imperative that Jackson, best known as an offensive guy (although he's coached DB's) gets a guy on the defense who's "been there, done that." No more O'Neill's or linebacker coaches who are getting promoted as a first time DC.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 18, 2016 8:45am
His quote, to me, pretty much says "sayonara Billy Football." It's good to see he realizes this is a major weakness on the team.HitsRus;1776315 wrote:The exact quote..... the only qualifier there is "IF".
CCRolly
Posts: 786
Jan 18, 2016 8:56am
Agree on Manziel being gone. Also refreshing to see his take on WR's. Hopefully we can get a legit WR or two in Free Agency/Draft.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 18, 2016 9:14am
I think we're going to see this team rely on the draft heavily, going forward. They may sprinkle in a few FA's but the draft will be their lifeblood.CCRolly;1776320 wrote: Hopefully we can get a legit WR or two in Free Agency/Draft.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 18, 2016 9:44am
Reading on another board I frequent, and it was also mentioned in the Tweets on the original one, the rumor was a 3rd this year and a 2nd rounder in 2017 (if the Browns make the playoffs in 2016) or a 2nd rounder in 2018 (if the Browns make the playoffs in 2017).
However, the rumor probably originated based on Hue alone. I doubt the Bengals FO would potentially trade a future starter and reliable backup in the division.
However, the rumor probably originated based on Hue alone. I doubt the Bengals FO would potentially trade a future starter and reliable backup in the division.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 18, 2016 9:50am
And the Browns would have to be idiots to give up that much for an unproven starter. If Jackson signed off on that, I'd lose complete faith in him immediately. That would be almost as bad as the Palmer deal.Azubuike24;1776329 wrote:Reading on another board I frequent, and it was also mentioned in the Tweets on the original one, the rumor was a 3rd this year and a 2nd rounder in 2017 (if the Browns make the playoffs in 2016) or a 2nd rounder in 2018 (if the Browns make the playoffs in 2017).
However, the rumor probably originated based on Hue alone. I doubt the Bengals FO would potentially trade a future starter and reliable backup in the division.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 18, 2016 9:55am
[video]http://fox8.com/2016/01/18/not-touching-that-one-betty-white-takes-jab-at-manziel-in-hilarious-nfl-pregame-ad/[/video]
need a good laugh this morning?....hahaha.
need a good laugh this morning?....hahaha.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 18, 2016 4:39pm
Mike Singletary anyone?
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 18, 2016 6:14pm
Paul Kuharsky ‏@PaulKuharskyNFL 32m32 minutes ago Source: Titans defensive coordinator Ray Horton has been given permission to speak with the Cleveland Browns.
[h=1]Paul Kuharsky ESPN Staff Writer[/h]
Former Lions head coach Jim Schwartz has interest from Browns, Eagles and Jaguars as defensive coordinator. Is considering his options. Would have liked Titans best, but Dick LeBeau is in line to return.
[h=1]Paul Kuharsky ESPN Staff Writer[/h]
Former Lions head coach Jim Schwartz has interest from Browns, Eagles and Jaguars as defensive coordinator. Is considering his options. Would have liked Titans best, but Dick LeBeau is in line to return.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 18, 2016 7:33pm
...and I don't disagree. However, it's possible the Browns take a major reach QB at #2 and I'm sure Hue Jackson will get more than his input on who his QB is going to be. If he thought McCarron was worth it, it would mean something I'd think.BR1986FB;1776333 wrote:And the Browns would have to be idiots to give up that much for an unproven starter. If Jackson signed off on that, I'd lose complete faith in him immediately. That would be almost as bad as the Palmer deal.
B
BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 18, 2016 9:24pm
Oh, I agree that Hue will have a ton of input on it. That price, for McCarron, would be ridiculous.Azubuike24;1776483 wrote:...and I don't disagree. However, it's possible the Browns take a major reach QB at #2 and I'm sure Hue Jackson will get more than his input on who his QB is going to be. If he thought McCarron was worth it, it would mean something I'd think.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 19, 2016 4:12pm
But would it, if you're going to take a QB at #2 just to take a QB at #2?
I mean, I suppose it all depends on what the projection on McCarron is. I'm sure it's all over the map. However, say he projects as somewhere between Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dalton? Would a 3rd rounder be unreasonable?
I mean, I suppose it all depends on what the projection on McCarron is. I'm sure it's all over the map. However, say he projects as somewhere between Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dalton? Would a 3rd rounder be unreasonable?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 19, 2016 6:28pm
Mccarron isn't good. So no I wouldn't want to trade for him at all. He's not a starting qb in this leagueAzubuike24;1776745 wrote:But would it, if you're going to take a QB at #2 just to take a QB at #2?
I mean, I suppose it all depends on what the projection on McCarron is. I'm sure it's all over the map. However, say he projects as somewhere between Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dalton? Would a 3rd rounder be unreasonable?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
S
Sonofanump
Jan 19, 2016 6:48pm
More like he projects somewhere between Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dufrasne.Azubuike24;1776745 wrote:But would it, if you're going to take a QB at #2 just to take a QB at #2?
I mean, I suppose it all depends on what the projection on McCarron is. I'm sure it's all over the map. However, say he projects as somewhere between Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dalton? Would a 3rd rounder be unreasonable?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 19, 2016 7:01pm
I am sure you would love a 3rd for McCarron, but any person who isn't delusional knows he is not worthy spending a 3rd rounder. Just stop.Azubuike24;1776745 wrote:But would it, if you're going to take a QB at #2 just to take a QB at #2?
I mean, I suppose it all depends on what the projection on McCarron is. I'm sure it's all over the map. However, say he projects as somewhere between Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dalton? Would a 3rd rounder be unreasonable?
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 19, 2016 9:30pm
you probably could get the Browns to trade JFF even up!
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 19, 2016 9:42pm
Why do people think McCarron is good? I watched all his games started this year, he is not a good QB lol.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 19, 2016 10:12pm
Well, he almost won a playoff game, and as we all know, almost ws enough to get Charlie Weis a 10 year deal. So, when your team is starved for something, almost is enough for you to go all in. Similar to how a lot of Browns fans bought in on Manziel after a couple semi-decent games.Laley23;1776786 wrote:Why do people think McCarron is good? I watched all his games started this year, he is not a good QB lol.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jan 19, 2016 10:51pm
More like he projects between Steven Avery and Andy Dufrasne.
Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jan 20, 2016 1:13am
As a Bengals fan I would much rather them keep McCarron than trade him for a 3rd rounder, especially to a team in the division with the only OC he's ever had as coach. He didn't light the world on fire but look around the NFL, it's hard to get good QB play. It's really nice to have a backup that you know can come in and still win games with how good the rest of the team is.
If I were the Browns though I would draft a QB early and then another in the 4th or 5th round over trading for McCarron.
If I were the Browns though I would draft a QB early and then another in the 4th or 5th round over trading for McCarron.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 20, 2016 1:21am
Mccarron is terrible. This is a dumb conversation.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 20, 2016 10:09am
With that Bengals defense, I think quite a few backup QB's could do what McCarron did.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Jan 20, 2016 10:34am
Browns need to draft Cardale! He's nfl ready....