2016 Browns Season Thread

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Jan 12, 2016 6:29pm
BR1986FB;1775170 wrote:Not sure how relevant it is but it sounds like there's some "connection" between Hue Jackson and Cal QB Jared Goff. Could be something to watch should Jackson get hired.
So there is no connection at all then? Got it.
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Jan 12, 2016 6:44pm
BR1986FB;1775170 wrote:Not sure how relevant it is but it sounds like there's some "connection" between Hue Jackson and Cal QB Jared Goff. Could be something to watch should Jackson get hired.
How does it sound like it?
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Jan 12, 2016 7:02pm
Interesting note, in the 2015/16 NFL playoffs, 9 of the top 10 run defenses made it to the playoffs. The other was the NY Jets.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense/seasontype/2
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Jan 12, 2016 7:10pm
BR1986FB;1775170 wrote:Not sure how relevant it is but it sounds like there's some "connection" between Hue Jackson and Cal QB Jared Goff. Could be something to watch should Jackson get hired.
What?
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Jan 12, 2016 7:11pm
Commander of Awesome;1775183 wrote:Interesting note, in the 2015/16 NFL playoffs, 9 of the top 10 run defenses made it to the playoffs. The other was the NY Jets.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense/seasontype/2
That is pretty interesting. And all of them have relevant QBs, including the Jets.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:12pm
sleeper;1775188 wrote:That is pretty interesting. And all of them have relevant QBs, including the Jets.
Tell me more about Houston' and Bronco's relevant QB play.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:13pm
Commander of Awesome;1775189 wrote:Tell me more about Houston' and Bronco's relevant QB play.
For a contrast, see Cleveland.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:13pm
sleeper;1775190 wrote:For a contrast, see Cleveland.
I'd take the Browns QB play over both this past season.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:13pm
Hopefully the Browns pick all D-Line this year so we can have the #1 rush defense and be Super Bowl champs.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:14pm
sleeper;1775192 wrote:Hopefully the Browns pick all D-Line this year so we can have the #1 rush defense and be Super Bowl champs.
Stopping the run is an important aspect to winning football games dummy.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:17pm
Commander of Awesome;1775193 wrote:Stopping the run is an important aspect to winning football games dummy.
Yeah so is scoring points. Football 101.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:18pm
sleeper;1775194 wrote:Yeah so is scoring points. Football 101.
Stopping the run doesn't mean we don't score points. lolfail
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Jan 12, 2016 7:20pm
Commander of Awesome;1775195 wrote:Stopping the run doesn't mean we don't score points. lolfail
How'd Shelton work out for us? 2nd worst record in the league.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:21pm
sleeper;1775196 wrote:How'd Shelton work out for us? 2nd worst record in the league.
Shelton is the only reason we lost huh? Damn, worst pick of all time right there.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:23pm
Commander of Awesome;1775198 wrote:Shelton is the only reason we lost huh? Damn, worst pick of all time right there.
No. I'm sure the Browns will draft another stud lineman and then when we go 4-12 next year you'll be back on here telling us we need to focus on stopping the run!
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Jan 12, 2016 7:42pm
Commander of Awesome;1775183 wrote:Interesting note, in the 2015/16 NFL playoffs, 9 of the top 10 run defenses made it to the playoffs. The other was the NY Jets.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense/seasontype/2
Total yards is a little skewed. It stands to reason that most playoff teams would be lower because good teams are usually ahead, and teams pass more when playing from behind. Green Bay was the only playoff team in the top half of the league in terms of rushing attempts against, and they were 14th.

If you look at YPC you have Tampa, Jacksonville, Tennessee, and Baltimore in the top 10.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:44pm
sleeper;1775200 wrote:No. I'm sure the Browns will draft another stud lineman and then when we go 4-12 next year you'll be back on here telling us we need to focus on stopping the run!
Shelton is one piece of the puzzle. DEs, LBers, Safeties that can fucking tackle (looking at whitner), etc.... For the record I want Geoff or Lynch and have said that numerous times.
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Jan 12, 2016 7:47pm
Shelton is a bum. He's only a two down player and drafted 12 overall
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Jan 12, 2016 8:27pm
shook_17;1775208 wrote:Shelton is a bum. He's only a two down player and drafted 12 overall
He had a good second half of the year. Pretty fucking stupid to call a D-lineman who showed a lot of promise a bum.
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Jan 12, 2016 9:24pm
SportsAndLady;1775213 wrote:He had a good second half of the year. Pretty fucking stupid to call a D-lineman who showed a lot of promise a bum.
Agreed. Shelton was pretty disruptive towards the end of the year. If he gets good coaching, which I don't think he had with Pettine's crew, I expect significant improvement.
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Jan 12, 2016 11:23pm
SportsAndLady;1775213 wrote:He had a good second half of the year. Pretty fucking stupid to call a D-lineman who showed a lot of promise a bum.
BR1986FB;1775223 wrote:Agreed. Shelton was pretty disruptive towards the end of the year. If he gets good coaching, which I don't think he had with Pettine's crew, I expect significant improvement.
These.
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Jan 13, 2016 7:41am
Plus, to say Shelton is only a "two down player" in a 3-4 system isn't necessarily a bad thing. A NT's job, in a 3-4, is to eat space, occupying two blockers so the LB's can do their work. Any high amounts of tackles or sacks from a NT are just gravy. Frankly, if the offense is in a 3rd & long, Shelton probably shouldn't be on the field anyway.

As a side note, Hue Jackson had a second interview with the Browns yesterday and left without an offer. He's expected to meet with the Giants today or tomorrow. The Giants meeting may be a due diligence type of thing because the frontrunners for that position are supposedly Ben McAdoo & Doug Marrone.
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Jan 13, 2016 12:54pm
Browns finalizing deal with Hue Jackson.
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Jan 13, 2016 12:55pm
HighRoller74;1775328 wrote:Browns finalizing deal with Hue Jackson.
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 2m2 minutes ago Looks like Browns will get done deal with Hue Jackson before he gets on flight to New York for interview with the Giants, per sources.
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Jan 13, 2016 1:00pm
Hue just confirmed he's the new coach.