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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 7, 2016 2:03pm
This has nothing to do with radio hot takes. Your brother said Lovie Smith was a failure and I disputed it. Had nothing to do with radio hot takes. If anyone was spewing hot takes, it was your brother.DeyDurkie5;1773874 wrote:I'm dense but the only opinions you put on here are radio hot takes.
The argument is its a team game. One person does not equal the entire team. It takes a team to win a ring. It takes a head coach to guide that team to a ring. Hence why coaches should be graded on rings at the end of the day.
Players PLAY the game. A coach cannot go out on the field and WIN a game. Players are extensions of the coach. If one fails, they ALL fail, as a TEAM.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 7, 2016 2:14pm
You used a random player not associated with lovie on a bad team to counter the point that if coaches don't win a ring, they are failures. It was stupid.BR1986FB;1773879 wrote:This has nothing to do with radio hot takes. Your brother said Lovie Smith was a failure and I disputed it. Had nothing to do with radio hot takes. If anyone was spewing hot takes, it was your brother.
Players PLAY the game. A coach cannot go out on the field and WIN a game. Players are extensions of the coach. If one fails, they ALL fail, as a TEAM.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 7, 2016 2:17pm
Joe Thomas will be be a first ballot hall of famer, please tell me more about how he's a failure and comparable to Lovie Smith.
Not surprised BR is trying to say JT is a failure lol
Not surprised BR is trying to say JT is a failure lol
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 7, 2016 2:19pm
You can insert any player. Dan Marino, who could be argued as the greatest QB of all time (by mostly Fins fans), never won a ring so I guess he failed at his quest too. You've obviously never heard the phrase "a coach is only as good as the talent around him." They're intertwined.DeyDurkie5;1773883 wrote:You used a random player not associated with lovie on a bad team to counter the point that if coaches don't win a ring, they are failures. It was stupid.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 7, 2016 2:22pm
Just like you claiming you'd do some kind of due diligence versus just drafting a QB at #2 just to draft one (which we ALL know better), I covered my ass with the (as an example since he's the Brown's best player), which your selective reading obviously overlooked. I knew someone would pull out the old "you hate Joe Thomas!!!!!" card.SportsAndLady;1773886 wrote:Joe Thomas will be be a first ballot hall of famer, please tell me more about how he's a failure and comparable to Lovie Smith.
Not surprised BR is trying to say JT is a failure lol
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 7, 2016 2:24pm
You make zero sense.BR1986FB;1773890 wrote:Just like you claiming you'd do some kind of due diligence versus just drafting a QB at #2 just to draft one (which we ALL know better), I covered my ass with the (as an example since he's the Brown's best player), which your selective reading obviously overlooked. I knew someone would pull out the old "you hate Joe Thomas!!!!!" card.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 7, 2016 3:10pm
As a fan who doesn't give a shit about the Browns, putting myself in their shoes...give me a completely unknown, high potential, high risk guy over a known commodity.
Hiring Lovie Smith is like hiring Dusty Baker.
Hiring Lovie Smith is like hiring Dusty Baker.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 7, 2016 5:05pm
You make no sense at all.BR1986FB;1773888 wrote:You can insert any player. Dan Marino, who could be argued as the greatest QB of all time (by mostly Fins fans), never won a ring so I guess he failed at his quest too. You've obviously never heard the phrase "a coach is only as good as the talent around him." They're intertwined.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 7, 2016 5:24pm
You can do that, but you can't continue to do it every two years.Azubuike24;1773909 wrote:As a fan who doesn't give a shit about the Browns, putting myself in their shoes...give me a completely unknown, high potential, high risk guy over a known commodity.
Hiring Lovie Smith is like hiring Dusty Baker.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 7, 2016 6:57pm
Yeah...count me OUT on the Marrone shitstakes:
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 7, 2016 9:49pm
I don't get how he is considered a HC candidate. He didn't do shit at Syracuse.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jan 8, 2016 12:43am
We aren't hiring marrone. Dude is a bum.
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Sonofanump
Jan 8, 2016 8:53am
I would not want Marrone. I would think McDermont or Patricia could be a winner for some franchise.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 8, 2016 9:15am
Of those three, I'd want Patricia because he's coached for a team that's won a Super Bowl so he's not a failure. :rolleyes: My other choices would be Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, John Harbaugh & Mike McCarthy since they've also won Super Bowls and aren't failures. Screw Mike Tomlin.Sonofanump;1774009 wrote:I would not want Marrone. I would think McDermont or Patricia could be a winner for some franchise.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 8, 2016 9:45am
Not sure I want a member of the Belichick coaching tree.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 8, 2016 9:48am
They don't work out, except Saban in college.lhslep134;1774019 wrote:Not sure I want a member of the Belichick coaching tree.
Note: I'm sure I'm missing another guy or two.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 8, 2016 9:55am
It's a little early on Bill O'Brien but Al Groh & Kirk Ferentz have had solid runs at the collegiate level.like_that;1774021 wrote:They don't work out, except Saban in college.
Note: I'm sure I'm missing another guy or two.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Jan 8, 2016 1:00pm
Deflippo interviewed for the 49ers head coaching gig
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 8, 2016 1:06pm
I don't think flip is in any way ready to be a HC
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 8, 2016 1:33pm
Neither was Tomsula, but that didn't stop Jed York!Midstate01;1774103 wrote:I don't think flip is in any way ready to be a HC
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 8, 2016 2:28pm
Joe Thomas named an AP All Pro for 8th straight year.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 8, 2016 2:32pm
He will get it until he retires. This is how it works in the NFL.wildcats20;1774129 wrote:Joe Thomas named an AP All Pro for 8th straight year.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 8, 2016 2:47pm
In B4 BR comes in to shit on Goathomaswildcats20;1774129 wrote:Joe Thomas named an AP All Pro for 8th straight year.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 8, 2016 2:47pm
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 8, 2016 2:49pm
Don't need to. Sleeper was spot on. Guys like Ray Lewis & Jonathan Ogden kept getting the award on reputation. Even Thomas' rookie year, when he should've been the Pro Bowl starter, Odgen got the nod over him and I think he (Ogden) only played a half a season at a not so high level.Commander of Awesome;1774132 wrote:In B4 BR comes in to shit on Goathomas