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Sonofanump
Jan 19, 2017 12:51pm
Running backs have a shelf life of ~5 years. Running back are productive from day 1. Running backs are the last piece of the puzzle that a team adds. No need for a running back for a 1-15 team, use what you have until you are ready at every other position.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 19, 2017 1:01pm
I like Garrett at 1, but beyond that I'd have to see what's availableSportsAndLady;1833449 wrote:Seeing a few mocks this morning with the Browns taking M Garrett at 1 and then Dalvin Cook, the RB out of fsu, at 12
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 19, 2017 1:43pm
lol fuck Cook with the 2nd pick.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 19, 2017 1:52pm
Although I think that Cook is the best RB in the draft, I do not want him with the #12 pick. I'd like the Browns to try to get Malik Hooker and if he's going to be gone, I'd trade up to get him. If that isn't possible, I like Wilson from Florida.SportsAndLady;1833449 wrote:Seeing a few mocks this morning with the Browns taking M Garrett at 1 and then Dalvin Cook, the RB out of fsu, at 12.
I'm not a big believer in RBs this early in drafts..but we do need some explosiveness in our offense and cook can catch out of the backfield (a must have in today's NFL). I'd be okay with those two picks.
I do not want anything to do with Jabril Peppers.
I agree with the #1 overall pick though.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 19, 2017 1:53pm
I agree with this as well.Sonofanump;1833470 wrote:Running backs have a shelf life of ~5 years. Running back are productive from day 1. Running backs are the last piece of the puzzle that a team adds. No need for a running back for a 1-15 team, use what you have until you are ready at every other position.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 19, 2017 2:17pm
A RB can change your offense if you have a really good one. Especially if you don't have an elite QB. We don't have an elite QB and because we'll be taking a QB in the 2nd-3rd round (again), we'll continue to have a shaky offense. A RB can at least help the offense.
But you're right COA, we should draft another lineman. That'll really help our problems. We'll be 6-10, but damnit PFT will grade our O and D line in the top half of the league!! Winner!!
But you're right COA, we should draft another lineman. That'll really help our problems. We'll be 6-10, but damnit PFT will grade our O and D line in the top half of the league!! Winner!!
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jan 20, 2017 4:41pm
Browns going to sign Collins is surprising (albeit they overpaid to get him to stay). Not they can franchise Pryor if they want.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 20, 2017 6:57pm
Then why in the fuck wouldn't you draft a defensive player numbnuts? Our defense was bottom of the league, but you want to waste a 1st on a fucking RB when we got 2 good ones already? LMAOSportsAndLady;1833485 wrote:A RB can change your offense if you have a really good one. Especially if you don't have an elite QB. We don't have an elite QB and because we'll be taking a QB in the 2nd-3rd round (again), we'll continue to have a shaky offense. A RB can at least help the offense.
But you're right COA, we should draft another lineman. That'll really help our problems. We'll be 6-10, but damnit PFT will grade our O and D line in the top half of the league!! Winner!!
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jan 20, 2017 8:31pm
I agree with everything you said. Cook's good, but not for the Browns at 12. I'm completely on board with going up to get Hooker if need be.sleeper;1833476 wrote:Although I think that Cook is the best RB in the draft, I do not want him with the #12 pick. I'd like the Browns to try to get Malik Hooker and if he's going to be gone, I'd trade up to get him. If that isn't possible, I like Wilson from Florida.
I do not want anything to do with Jabril Peppers.
I agree with the #1 overall pick though.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 20, 2017 9:58pm
Lol yeah, Crowell and Duke Johnson. RBs that strike fear in defensive coordinators! LolCommander of Awesome;1833512 wrote:Then why in the fuck wouldn't you draft a defensive player numbnuts? Our defense was bottom of the league, but you want to waste a 1st on a fucking RB when we got 2 good ones already? LMAO
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 21, 2017 12:25pm
Crow is probably one of the most underrated rb's in the league. I'm definitely cool rolling with crow. We need defenseive talent and o line help. And qb. All could easily be filled this offseason with the draft and FASportsAndLady;1833519 wrote:Lol yeah, Crowell and Duke Johnson. RBs that strike fear in defensive coordinators! Lol
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 21, 2017 12:27pm
Crow was a serviceable RB this year. The year before that, he was awful. Lets see if he can have 2 good seasons before we anoint him one of the most underrated RB's in the league hahaCrimson streak;1833550 wrote:Crow is probably one of the most underrated rb's in the league. I'm definitely cool rolling with crow. We need defenseive talent and o line help. And qb. All could easily be filled this offseason with the draft and FA
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Sonofanump
Jan 22, 2017 8:04am
Hot take news flash: 2017 does not matter either. 3-13 at best. 2-3 years away from securing the RB of the future.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 22, 2017 11:59am
This I disagree with. Depending on the draft and FA signings I think we are going to be a lot better than people think. I could see a 6-7 win seasonSonofanump;1833602 wrote:Hot take news flash: 2017 does not matter either. 3-13 at best. 2-3 years away from securing the RB of the future.
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Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jan 22, 2017 12:02pm
I'll split the difference and say 4-5 wins depending on health.Crimson streak;1833639 wrote:This I disagree with. Depending on the draft and FA signings I think we are going to be a lot better than people think. I could see a 6-7 win season
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 22, 2017 12:03pm
Need to see who our QB is going to be before predicting win totals.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 22, 2017 12:11pm
Oh I agree 100%. The biggest difference we will see is the defense. The front 7 has the potential to be very very goodSportsAndLady;1833643 wrote:Need to see who our QB is going to be before predicting win totals.
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Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 22, 2017 12:15pm
Aaron Rodgers....how many wins if he was your QB next year?SportsAndLady;1833643 wrote:Need to see who our QB is going to be before predicting win totals.
Andrew Luck?
Carson Wentz?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 22, 2017 12:33pm
11 wins with Rodgers.Ironman92;1833647 wrote:Aaron Rodgers....how many wins if he was your QB next year?
Andrew Luck?
Carson Wentz?
9 wins with Luck.
Not sure on Wentz. Second year is a big year for qbs. He's either going to be very good next year or regress.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 22, 2017 12:35pm
Yeah, I'm pumped to add garrett to that D line with Shelton.Crimson streak;1833646 wrote:Oh I agree 100%. The biggest difference we will see is the defense. The front 7 has the potential to be very very good
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Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 22, 2017 12:39pm
So you believe next year Browns minus a QB will be better than this year's Packers and Colts without considering QB?SportsAndLady;1833648 wrote:11 wins with Rodgers.
9 wins with Luck.
Not sure on Wentz. Second year is a big year for qbs. He's either going to be very good next year or regress.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 22, 2017 12:51pm
I think the Browns would win 11 games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. And 9 games with Luck as QB.Ironman92;1833651 wrote:So you believe next year Browns minus a QB will be better than this year's Packers and Colts without considering QB?
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jan 22, 2017 1:20pm
Is Aaron playing on the defense now too? They sucked something awful. Rodgers alone isn't worth 10 more wins.SportsAndLady;1833652 wrote:I think the Browns would win 11 games with Aaron Rodgers at QB. And 9 games with Luck as QB.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 22, 2017 1:21pm
DisagreeBenny The Jet;1833657 wrote:Rodgers alone isn't worth 10 more wins.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 22, 2017 1:22pm
Also, Packers defense was awful all year.