sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 9, 2017 11:38am
If I have to Google someone's name to figure out who they are, they are probably dog shit.
No thank you.
No thank you.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 9, 2017 11:52am
Just shows you haven't been paying attention. He's been part of the discussion since CFB WK2.sleeper;1831943 wrote:If I have to Google someone's name to figure out who they are, they are probably dog shit.
No thank you.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 9, 2017 11:54am
lol sleeper had to google a consensus top 10 pick at the most popular position in football. Classic
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 9, 2017 11:58am
Yeah I don't watch ESPN so I form my own opinions and they are far more accurate than any garbage you'll see on TV.Commander of Awesome;1831948 wrote:Just shows you haven't been paying attention. He's been part of the discussion since CFB WK2.
Learning to think for yourself is the #1 way to not be poor. Enjoy ESPN and poverty.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 9, 2017 11:58am
Clearly not a consensus. He's a 6th rounder on my board.SportsAndLady;1831949 wrote:lol sleeper had to google a consensus top 10 pick at the most popular position in football. Classic
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 9, 2017 12:02pm
Post your entire 7-round mock. I'm curious.sleeper;1831952 wrote:Clearly not a consensus. He's a 6th rounder on my board.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jan 9, 2017 12:05pm
Who are the 200 players you have rated above him?sleeper;1831952 wrote:Clearly not a consensus. He's a 6th rounder on my board.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jan 9, 2017 12:21pm
Laugh out fucking loud.sleeper;1831952 wrote:Clearly not a consensus. He's a 6th rounder on my board.
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Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 9, 2017 12:32pm
lol k tough guysleeper;1831951 wrote:Yeah I don't watch ESPN so I form my own opinions and they are far more accurate than any garbage you'll see on TV.
Learning to think for yourself is the #1 way to not be poor. Enjoy ESPN and poverty.
Sleeper is about to have a rock like meltdown.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 9, 2017 12:40pm
Lololololol settle down Mel Kipersleeper;1831952 wrote:Clearly not a consensus. He's a 6th rounder on my board.
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sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 9, 2017 12:41pm
I don't have one. I evaluate talent on a case by case basis and make a round determination. I haven't seen anything out of him that makes me think he will be in the league past 2019.Azubuike24;1831954 wrote:Post your entire 7-round mock. I'm curious.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 9, 2017 2:20pm
You do realize that someone has to go in the first, the second, the third, etc...? Also, you have to evaluate a QB a little differently than another position. Totally different than a RB, for instance. A QB might not even get a shot until 2 years after he's drafted, whereas a RB who is on to a second contract is often a huge risk. Trubisky could very well go somewhere that he doesn't see the field until 2018...so it's pretty unlikely he's not in the NFL in 2019.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 9, 2017 3:16pm
He's the next Manziel in my book. What value would you give Manziel now? A 6th rounder is being generous; I had him undrafted and out of the league in 3 years before it was cool.Azubuike24;1831990 wrote:You do realize that someone has to go in the first, the second, the third, etc...? Also, you have to evaluate a QB a little differently than another position. Totally different than a RB, for instance. A QB might not even get a shot until 2 years after he's drafted, whereas a RB who is on to a second contract is often a huge risk. Trubisky could very well go somewhere that he doesn't see the field until 2018...so it's pretty unlikely he's not in the NFL in 2019.
The experts had him listed as a first round pick. You can have your "experts"; I'll take logic and reason.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 9, 2017 3:31pm
Okay then.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jan 9, 2017 4:05pm
And he was a first round pick... Your "talent evaluation" and where someone is mocked to be drafted are not related. I think Peppers is overrated and will be a good Pro but nothing great, but he will still go top 15 probably.sleeper;1831999 wrote:The experts had him listed as a first round pick. You can have your "experts"; I'll take logic and reason.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 9, 2017 4:11pm
thavoice. You owe me a signature. I realize we didn't come to terms on length, but industry standard is 1-month.sleeper;1829156 wrote:Book it bank it.
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1809815#post1809815
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1809825#post1809825
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1809861#post1809861
The signature shall read: sleeper was right 9/6/2016.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 9, 2017 4:12pm
If you knew by your talent evaluation that Manziel was going be out of the league in 3 years, why would you draft him in the 1st round?iclfan2;1832012 wrote:And he was a first round pick... Your "talent evaluation" and where someone is mocked to be drafted are not related. I think Peppers is overrated and will be a good Pro but nothing great, but he will still go top 15 probably.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 9, 2017 4:31pm
Fair enough. Changed.sleeper;1832014 wrote:thavoice. You owe me a signature. I realize we didn't come to terms on length, but industry standard is 1-month.
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1809815#post1809815
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1809825#post1809825
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1809861#post1809861
The signature shall read: sleeper was right 9/6/2016.
I was devastated they didnt make it to my prediction.
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Sonofanump
Jan 9, 2017 4:43pm
Trubinsky is 6'3", that is 5 inches taller than JFF.
If he was there at #12, I would not complain if Browns took him there, but he won't be.
If he was there at #12, I would not complain if Browns took him there, but he won't be.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 9, 2017 4:49pm
I'm sort of getting talked into this Josh Allen kid from Wyoming. Hoping for him at 12 or Mahomes in the 2nd.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 9, 2017 6:48pm
He needs a lot of work. But he does remind me a lot of wentz. Good athleticism for his size. Strong arm, decision making isn't the best though. I'd rather have Kizer, or mahommesCommander of Awesome;1832024 wrote:I'm sort of getting talked into this Josh Allen kid from Wyoming. Hoping for him at 12 or Mahomes in the 2nd.
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Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 9, 2017 7:07pm
Good to know, if he reminds you of Wentz no thanks in the first. He really sucked once opposing teams got tape on him.Crimson streak;1832037 wrote:He needs a lot of work. But he does remind me a lot of wentz. Good athleticism for his size. Strong arm, decision making isn't the best though. I'd rather have Kizer, or mahommes
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 9, 2017 7:16pm
It was also his rookie year.Commander of Awesome;1832040 wrote:Good to know, if he reminds you of Wentz no thanks in the first. He really sucked once opposing teams got tape on him.
I'd trade our entire trash roster for Carson Wentz.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 9, 2017 7:37pm
Browns fans are so unbelievably dumb and this thread shows it. You. Need. A. Quarterback.
Cleveland in that division will never make the playoffs until it gets one. Look at Oakland, they get David Carr and the turnaround happened fast. Denver has pretty much everything back from a SB team yet because they had no QB they miss the postseason entirely
Cleveland in that division will never make the playoffs until it gets one. Look at Oakland, they get David Carr and the turnaround happened fast. Denver has pretty much everything back from a SB team yet because they had no QB they miss the postseason entirely
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jan 9, 2017 7:45pm
[emoji41][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]Classyposter58;1832048 wrote:Lions fans are so unbelievably dumb and this post shows it. Have you seen them playoff losses?
Detroit in that division will never win in the playoffs until it gets Clayton Kershaw to be the center for Stafford like hi skool. Look at Oakland they get Adam Dunn and the playoffs were over as quick as my Lions. Denver has pretty much everything back from a SB team yet because they didn't have the greatest regular season QB of all-time they missed the playoffs. Go Tigers!