Spock;1737253 wrote:and this is why you cant have a debate. If you raise any question you are a racist.

Everything Belly ever states about Blacks is always racist. He is a racist he just doesn't want to admit it.

Belly35;1737251 wrote:? Is our education system failing our future society.
Is the structure of HIP medical records and Social Services data needs to be viewed.
Does this next generation graps reality.
More support and prevention for mental illness and social behavior disorders

What does this have to do with tracking hate groups? We are more educated as a nation than we've ever been. Why all of a sudden are you sounding off about mental illness now? Shouldn't you be a huge advocate for it already being that there is a large population of your fellow veterans that suffer with mental illness?

rmolin73;1737261 wrote:What does this have to do with tracking hate groups? We are more educated as a nation than we've ever been. Why all of a sudden are you sounding off about mental illness now? Shouldn't you be a huge advocate for it already being that there is a large population of your fellow veterans that suffer with mental illness?

Belly is relating this kid to mental illness because he's white. If he was black he'd be a thug. This scum was most likely bred to hate from his parents. Didn't seem he was mentally ill just full of hate.

Heretic;1737254 wrote:I'm just enjoying how things have progressed.

1. Belly starts a thread about how his sources have stated that terrorist-types are planning to take action against churches.

2. Someone shoots up a church, killing nine people.

3. Suddenly, Belly starts talking about how the problem is mental illness, while taking shots at various black groups (saying "black leadership" are the real racists after an event, mind you, in which a true racist just killed a bunch of black people AND now this thread where, surprise, surprise, many of these groups he's asking if they are "hate groups" happen to be black in nature.

So, my question would be to ask why he's suddenly deflecting away from the actual event that happened in order to make a ham-fisted attempt to take the usual shots at the usual groups he disagrees with, as opposed to condemning the actions of a domestic terrorist using racism as a front to commit mass murder.

heretic I'm glad you follow my post and threads ...

I will address your observation

1. Yes I did and that potential terrorist situation is still a concern of the local police, federal agents.

2. I can't predict the future but sooner or later church would be soft targets .. Would nine innocent people die if some or a few would have been packing? Our church has hired local police and......

3. The potential for a terrorist attach on churches is still feasible, this kid just presented to the nation just how vulnerable. Review the shooters of the schools, theaters, malls there is a common dysfunctional behavior ( mental illness). The knee jerk react to hate, racism, bullying many be the surface obvious issue but there is a more sinister reason…. What is obvious may not be the real issue America is dealing with.

What White Representation would have stepped forward if this shooting would have been in reversal? Again Black leadership has not alway provide the Black Community with the right solution or forward think process.
I listed the following groups: NRA, NAACP, McKinley or Massillon Booster Club, Black Panther, Rolling Thunder, Clinton Foundation, IRS …. The NAACP suggest so they would have to be on the list so what other group are racial identities? Which other of this list are Black representation of hate groups?

I started a second thread because of the article and the suggestion by the President of the NAACP which as I said “ not totally against.”

I just have question as to what guideline will be present that will not intrude on the Constitutional rights of the citizens “citizens”

Thanks for asking about my dog…. 13 year old golden … he has a hard time breathing and I think he was choking on something he ate… choking and could not breath not a good combo for a old dog

Belly35;1737251 wrote:This from ...I be rich but does return a over cooked steak that he assume wealth people would order... fraud mofo

Belly35;1737251 wrote:? Is our education system failing our future society.

Our education system failed someone.

Heretic;1737254 wrote:I'm just enjoying how things have progressed.

1. Belly starts a thread about how his sources have stated that terrorist-types are planning to take action against churches.

2. Someone shoots up a church, killing nine people.

3. Suddenly, Belly starts talking about how the problem is mental illness, while taking shots at various black groups (saying "black leadership" are the real racists after an event, mind you, in which a true racist just killed a bunch of black people AND now this thread where, surprise, surprise, many of these groups he's asking if they are "hate groups" happen to be black in nature.

So, my question would be to ask why he's suddenly deflecting away from the actual event that happened in order to make a ham-fisted attempt to take the usual shots at the usual groups he disagrees with, as opposed to condemning the actions of a domestic terrorist using racism as a front to commit mass murder.

If you strip away all the racist shit, has anyone noticed that belly was right about churches being a target?

FatHobbit;1737270 wrote:If you strip away all the racist shit, has anyone noticed that belly was right about churches being a target?

He wasn't right. These 9 people weren't shot because they were religious/in a church. They were shot because they were black.

SportsAndLady;1737279 wrote:He wasn't right. These 9 people weren't shot because they were religious/in a church. They were shot because they were black.

I'll admit I didn't follow belly's church post that closely. Did he say that they were targets because of their religion? Or just that churches were targets that needed to be protected because they were vulnerable?

FatHobbit;1737287 wrote:I'll admit I didn't follow belly's church post that closely. Did he say that they were targets because of their religion? Or just that churches were targets that needed to be protected because they were vulnerable?

The former.

FatHobbit;1737287 wrote:I'll admit I didn't follow belly's church post that closely. Did he say that they were targets because of their religion? Or just that churches were targets that needed to be protected because they were vulnerable?

Loosely he was implying that Terrorists (re: everyone not white) would shoot up Christian Churches, because you know, war on Christianity. Ideally Muslims would attack a church. Just so happened, that the terrorist happened to be a white guy, attacking a black church, so in other words....no harm, no foul, play on.

SportsAndLady;1737289 wrote:The former.

Actually maybe not. I just re read it and it just says churches would become a target. Which is technically true.

Who knows what he really meant lol

FatHobbit;1737287 wrote:I'll admit I didn't follow belly's church post that closely. Did he say that they were targets because of their religion? Or just that churches were targets that needed to be protected because they were vulnerable?

Just that they were to be attacked which was a transition to concealed carry. I have to admit he was spot on in regards to the attacks. I just don't think it went down as he expected it to.

Fair enough. I didn't read it that closely.

SportsAndLady;1737279 wrote:He wasn't right. These 9 people weren't shot because they were religious/in a church. They were shot because they were black.

Of course they weren't shot because of their religion, but I am sure the nut bag also drove by plenty of black people on the way to the church that he didn't shoot.

Glory Days;1737385 wrote:Of course they weren't shot because of their religion, but I am sure the nut bag also drove by plenty of black people on the way to the church that he didn't shoot.

From what I've seen, he picked that church specifically because he was well-researched on locations that were historical black landmarks (for lack of a better word) and that particular church is both one of America's oldest black churches and has been known for historically being involved in the civil rights movement. Dude had a plan to go somewhere where, at least in his mind, it would hit where it hurt on a more symbolic level than just shooting a bunch of people randomly.

That's why I look at it as more domestic terrorism than anything else. As I said before on another thread, he comes off as more of a high-functioning sociopath who devised a plan to strike in an area that would cause maximum fear amongst the group he was targeting and pulled it off. Mentally ill/insane along the same lines that the dude on trial in the Boston bombings is where he's definitely not normal, but was able to function in society to a good enough degree that friends/family/whatever seemed to have no clue he was planning anything like this.

Heretic;1737402 wrote:From what I've seen, he picked that church specifically because he was well-researched on locations that were historical black landmarks (for lack of a better word) and that particular church is both one of America's oldest black churches and has been known for historically being involved in the civil rights movement. Dude had a plan to go somewhere where, at least in his mind, it would hit where it hurt on a more symbolic level than just shooting a bunch of people randomly.

That's why I look at it as more domestic terrorism than anything else. As I said before on another thread, he comes off as more of a high-functioning sociopath who devised a plan to strike in an area that would cause maximum fear amongst the group he was targeting and pulled it off. Mentally ill/insane along the same lines that the dude on trial in the Boston bombings is where he's definitely not normal, but was able to function in society to a good enough degree that friends/family/whatever seemed to have no clue he was planning anything like this.

Oh yeah, he definitely knew what he was doing. No one is trying to minimize what he did with the "he was mentally ill he didn't know what he was doing!" cop out lawyers use.

But he definitely, like you said, wasn't "normal"

Plenty of people have the thoughts he has. But the mentally deranged ones are the few who actually carry it out.

Belly35;1737263 wrote: Think my dog having a stroke..

Hope your dog's ok?

Belly35;1737263 wrote:
What White Representation would have stepped forward if this shooting would have been in reversal? Again Black leadership has not alway provide the Black Community with the right solution or forward think process.
I listed the following groups: NRA, NAACP, McKinley or Massillon Booster Club, Black Panther, Rolling Thunder, Clinton Foundation, IRS …. The NAACP suggest so they would have to be on the list so what other group are racial identities? Which other of this list are Black representation of hate groups?

I started a second thread because of the article and the suggestion by the President of the NAACP which as I said “ not totally against.”

I just have question as to what guideline will be present that will not intrude on the Constitutional rights of the citizens “citizens”

So your insinuating that if it was a white church the outcome would have been different? Out of the groups you listed how many have committed atrocities? How many of their leaders have led them in the wrong direction? But according to you it's only the NAACP. Now I'mnot a big fan of them but they have done good. Times have changed and I feel they aren't needed. But to classify them as a hate group is ridiculous. There are tons of groups in the U.S. that identify by a certain characteristic that's what makes this country so great. It appears you don't agree.

rmolin73;1737437 wrote:So your insinuating that if it was a white church the outcome would have been different? Out of the groups you listed how many have committed atrocities? How many of their leaders have led them in the wrong direction? But according to you it's only the NAACP. Now I'mnot a big fan of them but they have done good. Times have changed and I feel they aren't needed. But to classify them as a hate group is ridiculous. There are tons of groups in the U.S. that identify by a certain characteristic that's what makes this country so great. It appears you don't agree.

No non the naacp was on the list because they suggested it ... What is good for the goose is good for the gander...

rmolin73;1737437 wrote:So your insinuating that if it was a white church the outcome would have been different? Out of the groups you listed how many have committed atrocities? How many of their leaders have led them in the wrong direction? But according to you it's only the NAACP. Now I'mnot a big fan of them but they have done good. Times have changed and I feel they aren't needed. But to classify them as a hate group is ridiculous. There are tons of groups in the U.S. that identify by a certain characteristic that's what makes this country so great. It appears you don't agree.

If black man went into a white church and killed 9 people because he 'hates white people'...do you think BHO would give a eulogy?

It's so hard to have a discussion with belly because you don't have any idea wat his point is.

wkfan;1737455 wrote:If black man went into a white church and killed 9 people because he 'hates white people'...do you think BHO would give a eulogy?

Fuck no! Barry wouldn't even give a eulogy for someone like Chris Kyle who served this country. He's a worthless president.

BR1986FB;1737465 wrote:Fuck no! Barry wouldn't even give a eulogy for someone like Chris Kyle who served this country. He's a worthless president.

Oh please Chris Kyle wasn't in the military at the time he died.

Ytowngirlinfla;1737468 wrote:Oh please Chris Kyle wasn't in the military at the time he died.

Doesn't change the fact the POTUS is a POS and will be the first to start the race shit.

Ytowngirlinfla;1737468 wrote:Oh please Chris Kyle wasn't in the military at the time he died.

Were any of the 9 who were killed in Charleston?