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Belly35

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Jun 25, 2015 12:44 PM
NAACP Presidents want the Feds to provide more support and resource against hate groups and strong punishment for hate crimes.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/245662-naacp-president-calls-for-resources-to-crack-down-on-hate

OK… I can get on board somewhat for the safety of the general public but where does the line get drawn and Constitutional rights of freedom become jeopardized.

Is there a clear guideline of what is a hate group or hate crime?

Who is to say what groups are a hate groups? NRA, NAACP, Mckinley or Massillon Booster Club, Black Panther, Rolling Thunder, Clinton Foundation, IRS ….

Will rioting be a hate crime? What about rape or armed robbery between different races?

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander …..

When will this knee jerk reaction end and the real issue be addressed? ..it is not race, racism, racist, guns, flags, groups issue so let move beyond that band aid feel good our agenda mentality…

OC what is the real issue?

What cause shooting at school, theater, fast food restaurants, church and next it will be subways, buses, malls, football stadium game ….
What cause throwing bricks off expressways overpasses, waving fake guns, drive by shooting, raping, beating babies, random punch someone walking down the street?

Is this the Great Society
Jun 25, 2015 12:44pm
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Jun 25, 2015 1:05 PM
More racists post by Belly.
Jun 25, 2015 1:05pm
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Jun 25, 2015 2:34 PM
Belly35;1737200 wrote: OC what is the real issue?

You keep making posts about the same thing to drive your racist/political agenda, which seems like it's straight out of 1960.
Jun 25, 2015 2:34pm
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Jun 25, 2015 2:47 PM
Belly you are the real issue. So quietly fuck off.
Jun 25, 2015 2:47pm
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Jun 25, 2015 2:52 PM
Just admit you are racist. It'll probably make you feel better.
Jun 25, 2015 2:52pm
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Jun 25, 2015 2:56 PM
rmolin73;1737225 wrote:Belly you are the real issue. So quietly fuck off.
I support the idea present by the NAACP to some degree but without controls, vision of what the real issue is, this approach will be a worthless agenda hunt of political correctness.
Jun 25, 2015 2:56pm
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Jun 25, 2015 3:01 PM
Belly35;1737227 wrote:I support the idea present by the NAACP to some degree but without controls, vision of what the real issue is, this approach will be a worthless agenda hunt of political correctness.
The irony
Jun 25, 2015 3:01pm
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Jun 25, 2015 3:11 PM
Ytowngirlinfla;1737226 wrote:Just admit you are racist. It'll probably make you feel better.
If you ask hard question,want thoughtful reply to reveal the potential of the real issue at hand to the random killing .... you're called racist

Name calling, blasting others and slander has never solved any issue but open, honest and clear communication has ... so easy just to follow with name calling and provide no answers or solutions...
Jun 25, 2015 3:11pm
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Jun 25, 2015 3:14 PM
sleeper;1737202 wrote:More racists post by Belly.
This from ...I be rich but does return a over cooked steak that he assume wealth people would order... fraud mofo
Jun 25, 2015 3:14pm
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Jun 25, 2015 3:53 PM
Ytowngirlinfla;1737226 wrote:Just admit you are racist. It'll probably make you feel better.

If you take away the civil liberties from one, they can be taken away from any and all.


Wake the hell up.
Jun 25, 2015 3:53pm
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Jun 25, 2015 3:57 PM
Well folks crazyoats is here time for the fun to begin.
Jun 25, 2015 3:57pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:01 PM
QuakerOats;1737236 wrote:If you take away the civil liberties from one, they can be taken away from any and all.


Wake the hell up.
No one is taking your fucking guns nor your rebel flag away. You sound paranoid.
Jun 25, 2015 4:01pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:04 PM
Let me settle in for this one
Jun 25, 2015 4:04pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:06 PM
Ytowngirlinfla;1737239 wrote:No one is taking your fucking guns nor your rebel flag away. You sound paranoid.
So you totally agree to the idea presented by the NAACP president?

stay on topic
Jun 25, 2015 4:06pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:09 PM
rmolin73;1737238 wrote:Well folks crazyoats is here time for the fun to begin.
nothing to add but name calling that is always productive solution
Jun 25, 2015 4:09pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:09 PM
DeyDurkie5;1737240 wrote:Let me settle in for this one
do worry I got your back bro :)
Jun 25, 2015 4:09pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:12 PM
Belly35;1737200 wrote:NAACP Presidents want the Feds to provide more support and resource against hate groups and strong punishment for hate crimes.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/245662-naacp-president-calls-for-resources-to-crack-down-on-hate

OK… I can get on board somewhat for the safety of the general public but where does the line get drawn and Constitutional rights of freedom become jeopardized.

Is there a clear guideline of what is a hate group or hate crime?

Who is to say what groups are a hate groups? NRA, NAACP, Mckinley or Massillon Booster Club, Black Panther, Rolling Thunder, Clinton Foundation, IRS ….

Will rioting be a hate crime? What about rape or armed robbery between different races?

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander …..

When will this knee jerk reaction end and the real issue be addressed? ..it is not race, racism, racist, guns, flags, groups issue so let move beyond that band aid feel good our agenda mentality…

OC what is the real issue?

What cause shooting at school, theater, fast food restaurants, church and next it will be subways, buses, malls, football stadium game ….
What cause throwing bricks off expressways overpasses, waving fake guns, drive by shooting, raping, beating babies, random punch someone walking down the street?

Is this the Great Society
So what is the real issue?
Jun 25, 2015 4:12pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:13 PM
Belly35;1737241 wrote:So you totally agree to the idea presented by the NAACP president?

stay on topic
Why shouldn't hate groups be tracked? Why shouldn't hate crimes be tracked? This includes minorities and gays. Once the SCOTUS makes gay marriage legal everywhere I'm sure they'll be a spike in gay related hate crimes.
Jun 25, 2015 4:13pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:18 PM
rmolin73;1737246 wrote:So what is the real issue?
no no you tell us....I ask the question time for you to present your opinion.

im very interested in you view. Really no name calling from me
Jun 25, 2015 4:18pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:21 PM
Ytowngirlinfla;1737247 wrote:Why shouldn't hate groups be tracked?
my, my, sounds like profiling.
Jun 25, 2015 4:21pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:21 PM
Yes hate groups should be tracked I see them as domestic terrorist. This is a no brainer. So now I ask you what is the real issue?
Jun 25, 2015 4:21pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:35 PM
rmolin73;1737250 wrote:Yes hate groups should be tracked I see them as domestic terrorist. This is a no brainer. So now I ask you what is the real issue?


? Is our education system failing our future society.
Is the structure of HIP medical records and Social Services data needs to be viewed.
Does this next generation graps reality.
More support and prevention for mental illness and social behavior disorders
Jun 25, 2015 4:35pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:36 PM
Ytowngirlinfla;1737226 wrote:Just admit you are racist. It'll probably make you feel better.
and this is why you cant have a debate. If you raise any question you are a racist.
Jun 25, 2015 4:36pm
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Jun 25, 2015 4:36 PM
rmolin73;1737250 wrote:Yes hate groups should be tracked I see them as domestic terrorist. This is a no brainer. So now I ask you what is the real issue?
I'm just enjoying how things have progressed.

1. Belly starts a thread about how his sources have stated that terrorist-types are planning to take action against churches.

2. Someone shoots up a church, killing nine people.

3. Suddenly, Belly starts talking about how the problem is mental illness, while taking shots at various black groups (saying "black leadership" are the real racists after an event, mind you, in which a true racist just killed a bunch of black people AND now this thread where, surprise, surprise, many of these groups he's asking if they are "hate groups" happen to be black in nature.

So, my question would be to ask why he's suddenly deflecting away from the actual event that happened in order to make a ham-fisted attempt to take the usual shots at the usual groups he disagrees with, as opposed to condemning the actions of a domestic terrorist using racism as a front to commit mass murder.
Jun 25, 2015 4:36pm