Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Feb 10, 2016 10:01pm
More overreaction, though I shouldn't be surprised. That's your "thing".SportsAndLady;1780911 wrote:Seriously?
You're a pretty sad KL apologist. The guy is an injury machine. If this doesn't end his season, another injury will.
Tell us more about Paul George being trash, and Love being worthless(while averaging 16, and 11).
You can call me an apologist all you'd like, but I've been critical of his game plenty(he's too unselfish, shoots too many threes, defense a definite weak point) but, when I see terrible overreactions I'm gonna call it out.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Feb 10, 2016 10:02pm
Injury machine but he's played in more games the past three years than Kyrie has.SportsAndLady;1780911 wrote:Seriously?
You're a pretty sad KL apologist. The guy is an injury machine. If this doesn't end his season, another injury will.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 10, 2016 10:03pm
Kevin Love will end his career accomplishing absolutely nothing, yet people like you will say, "Well, he's averaging 16 and 11 for his career, so he's pretty damn good!"HighRoller74;1780915 wrote:More overreaction, though I shouldn't be surprised. That's your "thing".
Tell us more about Paul George being trash, and Love being worthless(while averaging 16, and 11).
You can call me an apologist all you'd like, but I've been critical of his game plenty(he's too unselfish, shoots too many threes, defense a definite weak point) but, when I see terrible overreactions I'm gonna call it out.
Again, when will you realize he is not a piece to the championship puzzle? He'll never win anything. He should go to LA and drop 16 and 11 for a 26-56 team.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 10, 2016 10:04pm
Kyrie has missed his fair share of games, too. But when he's healthy, he's a top 3 PG. You put up with the injuries for players who are top 3 at their position.sportswizuhrd;1780916 wrote:Injury machine but he's played in more games the past two years than Kyrie has.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Feb 10, 2016 10:06pm
Oh, so now that's the defining point on if someone is good or not? Sounds like a sleeper argument.....but ok.SportsAndLady;1780917 wrote:Kevin Love will end his career accomplishing absolutely nothing, yet people like you will say, "Well, he's averaging 16 and 11 for his career, so he's pretty damn good!"
Again, when will you realize he is not a piece to the championship puzzle? He'll never win anything. He should go to LA and drop 16 and 11 for a 26-56 team.
So there are like 5, or 6 good players in the league, and everyone else is trash? Good to know.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 10, 2016 10:07pm
Sleeper argument? He was on a garbage Minnesota team, and has been on a championship team for a year and a half and has been a complete failure. Tell me more about his stats though.HighRoller74;1780919 wrote:Oh, so now that's the defining point on if someone is good or not? Sounds like a sleeper argument.....but ok.
So there are like 5, or 6 good players in the league, and everyone else is trash? Good to know.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 10, 2016 10:09pm
Lollike_that;1780901 wrote:I wish we traded for fat Kevin Love.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 10, 2016 10:10pm
Here come the Kobe's!
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Feb 10, 2016 10:12pm
What exactly do you expect out of Kevin Love? I'm truly interested.SportsAndLady;1780921 wrote:Sleeper argument? He was on a garbage Minnesota team, and has been on a championship team for a year and a half and has been a complete failure. Tell me more about his stats though.
By all accounts he's done exactly what he's asked to do, has been labeled a great teammate, and putting up good numbers as the 3rd option?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 10, 2016 10:16pm
These 2 fouls on Kobe's 3's are ridiculous. Look like courtesy calls.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Feb 10, 2016 10:32pm
The Cavs pick when Kobe was drafted by Charlotte...
Current Cavs player-development coach Vitaly Potapenko. LOL.
Current Cavs player-development coach Vitaly Potapenko. LOL.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 11, 2016 1:41am
Are you drunj?HighRoller74;1780915 wrote:More overreaction, though I shouldn't be surprised. That's your "thing".
Tell us more about Paul George being trash, and Love being worthless(while averaging 16, and 11).
You can call me an apologist all you'd like, but I've been critical of his game plenty(he's too unselfish, shoots too many threes, defense a definite weak point) but, when I see terrible overreactions I'm gonna call it out.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Feb 11, 2016 5:48am
SportsAndLady;1780911 wrote:Seriously?
You're a pretty sad KL apologist. The guy is an injury machine. If this doesn't end his season, another injury will.
SportsAndLady;1780917 wrote:Kevin Love will end his career accomplishing absolutely nothing, yet people like you will say, "Well, he's averaging 16 and 11 for his career, so he's pretty damn good!"
Again, when will you realize he is not a piece to the championship puzzle? He'll never win anything. He should go to LA and drop 16 and 11 for a 26-56 team.
lol there it is. The overreaction machine at his best.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 11, 2016 9:11am
O'Rly? And what team is that? Sure as Hell isn't the Cavs because they aren't a "championship team." Paper champions, maybe.SportsAndLady;1780921 wrote:and has been on a championship team for a year and a half and has been a complete failure.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 11, 2016 10:23am
The cavs are a championship level team, they just happen to be playing the same season as a historically good team. The cavs have a better record than the Hawks did last year at this time. The only difference is the media and everyone else were jerking off to the Hawks and everyone is being dramatic with the Cavs. Quit letting media hot takes influence you.BR1986FB;1780960 wrote:O'Rly? And what team is that? Sure as Hell isn't the Cavs because they aren't a "championship team." Paper champions, maybe.
They aren't favored to win it, just just because they lost 2 regular season games to GSW doesn't mean we should completely write off this entire season.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 11, 2016 10:36am
I think we can still win but we have to find something other than relying on Love's "16/11" every night.like_that;1780976 wrote:The cavs are a championship level team, they just happen to be playing the same season as a historically good team. The cavs have a better record than the Hawks did last year at this time. The only difference is the media and everyone else were jerking off to the Hawks and everyone is being dramatic with the Cavs. Quit letting media hot takes influence you.
They aren't favored to win it, just just because they lost 2 regular season games to GSW doesn't mean we should completely write off this entire season.
"16/11" the dream for a max level player in his prime. LOL
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 11, 2016 10:38am
While I'm not a Cavs fan, it's pretty clear just from watching them that something needs to change. I've heard so many different names linked and potential moves speculated. They need a "tweak." Something similar to how the Smith/Mozgov/Shumpert acquisitions totally changed the dynamic of that team.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 11, 2016 10:42am
They need a tweak to help slow down draymond imo.Azubuike24;1780981 wrote:While I'm not a Cavs fan, it's pretty clear just from watching them that something needs to change. I've heard so many different names linked and potential moves speculated. They need a "tweak." Something similar to how the Smith/Mozgov/Shumpert acquisitions totally changed the dynamic of that team.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 11, 2016 10:44am
I agree with this. The team is good and can probably win the East this year but we are missing something.Azubuike24;1780981 wrote:While I'm not a Cavs fan, it's pretty clear just from watching them that something needs to change. I've heard so many different names linked and potential moves speculated. They need a "tweak." Something similar to how the Smith/Mozgov/Shumpert acquisitions totally changed the dynamic of that team.
I'm still in the camp that thinks Griffin is going crazy on the phone lines trying to get another player in here that can add some value against GSW.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Feb 11, 2016 10:47am
With all due respect, go fuck yourself with your "media hot takes" shit. I see what I see.like_that;1780976 wrote:Quit letting media hot takes influence you.
This team might be championship "level" or "caliber" but they're not a championship team. Big difference.
This team is mentally soft and doesn't have what it takes to win a ring, imo. That's no "hot take" from any media source. It's what I see, night in, night out from this team.
Do they have the physical talent to win? Sure, but upstairs (mentally), they are soft.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 11, 2016 10:51am
Lol ok BR you watch like 3 games a year and then just listen to whatever the media tells you.BR1986FB;1780987 wrote:With all due respect, go fuck yourself with your "media hot takes" shit. I see what I see.
This team might be championship "level" or "caliber" but they're not a championship team. Big difference.
This team is mentally soft and doesn't have what it takes to win a ring, imo. That's no "hot take" from any media source. It's what I see, night in, night out from this team.
Do they have the physical talent to win? Sure, but upstairs (mentally), they are soft.
The same team that is mentally weak is the same team that made it to the finals last year bruised and battered. Please tell me more about what the media has told you.
You can kindly go fuck yourself as well.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 11, 2016 10:51am
I've heard Jeff Green's name thrown around. That could be a good fit. The pick and roll with Draymond and Steph is something the Cavs got torched with.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 11, 2016 11:13am
Exactly.Azubuike24;1780981 wrote:While I'm not a Cavs fan, it's pretty clear just from watching them that something needs to change. I've heard so many different names linked and potential moves speculated. They need a "tweak." Something similar to how the Smith/Mozgov/Shumpert acquisitions totally changed the dynamic of that team.
Hopefully griffin sees this, too, and knows what he's doing. I do think he'll make a drastic move before the deadline.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 11, 2016 11:15am
I think soft is a poor choice of words. They aren't soft, they are complacent. They are going through the motions and hope to turn it on come playoff time but that's not really how it works in the NBA.BR1986FB;1780987 wrote:With all due respect, go fuck yourself with your "media hot takes" shit. I see what I see.
This team might be championship "level" or "caliber" but they're not a championship team. Big difference.
This team is mentally soft and doesn't have what it takes to win a ring, imo. That's no "hot take" from any media source. It's what I see, night in, night out from this team.
Do they have the physical talent to win? Sure, but upstairs (mentally), they are soft.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 11, 2016 11:19am
Actually a lot of teams have won NBA titles or made it to the finals by doing the exact thing.sleeper;1780994 wrote: but that's not really how it works in the NBA.