2015-2016 Cleveland Cavaliers World Champions!

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friendfromlowry
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Jan 25, 2016 5:15am
SportsAndLady;1777877 wrote:You can keep pointing to the +- stats and other metrics but if you watch the wolves play you can see he's going to be a special player and is a good player now. Come on man.
This is word for word something Rob would have said.
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Jan 25, 2016 8:08am
friendfromlowry;1778047 wrote:This is word for word something Rob would have said.
Rob says this about everything. This is maybe the first time I've ever spoken those words lol my only point is it's my opinion that Wiggins defensive numbers are the way they are because of the team he plays on. And that if he played on the cavs from day one, his defense would not be an issue.
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Jan 25, 2016 8:17am
sleeper;1778016 wrote:Reality happened. Kevin Love hasn't done SHIT in Cleveland. Needs to be traded if the Cavs want to win a title. Griffin knows too and is already looking to move him.
Haven't been on here and this has probably been posted but there was a rumor flying around over the weekend of Love & Mozgov for Demarcus Cousins.

PS....wouldn't want Wiggins if they gave him back.

And Blatt should've had his offer rescinded once Lebron decided he was coming back. He was in way over his head trying to coach a bunch of superstars. Blatt is ideal getting the best out of young/moldable guys. Have no idea whether Lue will be the answer as I think "Lebron's gonna Lebron", i.e. "do what Lebron wants" so I don't know how coachable he is.
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Jan 25, 2016 9:20am
BR1986FB;1778055 wrote:Haven't been on here and this has probably been posted but there was a rumor flying around over the weekend of Love & Mozgov for Demarcus Cousins.

PS....wouldn't want Wiggins if they gave him back.

And Blatt should've had his offer rescinded once Lebron decided he was coming back. He was in way over his head trying to coach a bunch of superstars. Blatt is ideal getting the best out of young/moldable guys. Have no idea whether Lue will be the answer as I think "Lebron's gonna Lebron", i.e. "do what Lebron wants" so I don't know how coachable he is.
I've seen the cousins rumor too. Have also heard Monroe.

I'm sure there's absolutely nothing to the rumors but it's interesting to hear.
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Jan 25, 2016 9:29am
SportsAndLady;1778070 wrote:I've seen the cousins rumor too. Have also heard Monroe.

I'm sure there's absolutely nothing to the rumors but it's interesting to hear.
I think Cousins would fit in nicely but, like you said, probably nothing to it. I thought it was interesting that one of the NBA writers said that a week prior to Blatt's firing, he (Blatt) said "it's either me or Kevin Love" (something to that effect).
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Jan 25, 2016 9:54am
I just don't see what on earth the Cavs could offer for Cousins. It's not like the Kings are falling apart and they want to deal him. And he's more valuable and has higher potential than Kevin Love, and they gave up two #1 overall picks for Love. Just can't see what the Cavs could offer?
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Jan 25, 2016 10:30am
BR1986FB;1778055 wrote:Haven't been on here and this has probably been posted but there was a rumor flying around over the weekend of Love & Mozgov for Demarcus Cousins.

PS....wouldn't want Wiggins if they gave him back.

And Blatt should've had his offer rescinded once Lebron decided he was coming back. He was in way over his head trying to coach a bunch of superstars. Blatt is ideal getting the best out of young/moldable guys. Have no idea whether Lue will be the answer as I think "Lebron's gonna Lebron", i.e. "do what Lebron wants" so I don't know how coachable he is.
Yeah way over his head to the finals his first yr as a beach coach. /sarcasm

Come on, this is a dumb hottake
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Jan 25, 2016 11:07am
Commander of Awesome;1778084 wrote:Yeah way over his head to the finals his first yr as a beach coach. /sarcasm

Come on, this is a dumb hottake
Sure was. They were never going to win a ring with him coaching and Griffin knew it. They paid $2 million/yr to an assistant (Lue) as a "fall back" plan. He is a great coach teaching younger guys but not the guy to deal with the hand he was dealt (superstar ego's). You could tell Lebron had absolutely no respect for him. A blind monkey should've been able to coach that roster to the Finals once those trades were made.
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Jan 25, 2016 11:53am
BR1986FB;1778089 wrote:Sure was. They were never going to win a ring with him coaching and Griffin knew it. They paid $2 million/yr to an assistant (Lue) as a "fall back" plan. He is a great coach teaching younger guys but not the guy to deal with the hand he was dealt (superstar ego's). You could tell Lebron had absolutely no respect for him. A blind monkey should've been able to coach that roster to the Finals once those trades were made.
This is just dumb.
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Jan 25, 2016 11:54am
On one hand, Blatt never played in the NBA or at a very high level, so you wonder if players gave him a chance for respect as a coach.

On the other hand, Erik Spoelstra had a similar background and he seemed to do okay with LeBron, Wade and Bosh in Miami.
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Jan 25, 2016 11:57am
BR1986FB;1778089 wrote:Sure was. They were never going to win a ring with him coaching and Griffin knew it. They paid $2 million/yr to an assistant (Lue) as a "fall back" plan. He is a great coach teaching younger guys but not the guy to deal with the hand he was dealt (superstar ego's). You could tell Lebron had absolutely no respect for him. A blind monkey should've been able to coach that roster to the Finals once those trades were made.
This is one of the more idiotic posts I've read in a while.
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Jan 25, 2016 12:33pm
BR1986FB;1778055 wrote:Haven't been on here and this has probably been posted but there was a rumor flying around over the weekend of Love & Mozgov for Demarcus Cousins.

PS....wouldn't want Wiggins if they gave him back.

And Blatt should've had his offer rescinded once Lebron decided he was coming back. He was in way over his head trying to coach a bunch of superstars. Blatt is ideal getting the best out of young/moldable guys. Have no idea whether Lue will be the answer as I think "Lebron's gonna Lebron", i.e. "do what Lebron wants" so I don't know how coachable he is.
It's going to be tough to find any team that would take Love especially since he has underproduced with his massive contract. We are stuck with him unless a miracle happens.

Also, not a fan of Lue as a coach. Blatt may have not been the answer but I have no faith in Lue as of yet. He's an unproven liability at this point.
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Jan 25, 2016 2:58pm
DeyDurkie5;1778097 wrote:This is just dumb.
Beyond idiotic, just fucking stupid. Might be BR's dumbest post of all time. Wonder if BR wrote this while riding on the short bus.
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Jan 25, 2016 3:02pm
Azubuike24;1778098 wrote:On one hand, Blatt never played in the NBA or at a very high level, so you wonder if players gave him a chance for respect as a coach.

On the other hand, Erik Spoelstra had a similar background and he seemed to do okay with LeBron, Wade and Bosh in Miami.
Spoelstra had Riley. The Cavs organization doesn't have anyone like that.
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Jan 25, 2016 7:45pm
To add fuel to our fiery debate over Wiggins/ Love, Minnesota is in town tonight [emoji23][emoji23]

Go cavs
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Jan 25, 2016 7:49pm
Funny how that works out isn't it lol.
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Jan 25, 2016 7:50pm
Love playing well. Kyrie playing awful.
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Jan 25, 2016 7:51pm
Ball is moving well tonight tho. Defense is junk tho
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Jan 25, 2016 7:53pm
Kyrie looked awful on that last series. LBJ, and Love flanking you on the wings and you decide to just dribble a shit ton, and then throw up a contested lay up. Pass the ball.
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Jan 25, 2016 7:59pm
Loving the passing tonight.
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Jan 25, 2016 8:43pm
I can't believe Mosgov put that down.
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Jan 25, 2016 8:54pm
Delly has been awesome tonight
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Jan 25, 2016 9:16pm
No matter what happens, the decision to trade Wiggins was Lebron's choice. I would have preferred Wiggins over Love any day of the week.
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Jan 25, 2016 9:28pm
Quicker ball movement could make Delly shine a bit if he can hit the shots because he's going to get them.
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Jan 25, 2016 10:01pm
I still say we gotta give it a couple weeks but I've seen nothing yet that makes me get excited about what might be to come. They don't play any style for consistent minutes. Just frustrating to watch.