lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2015 5:35pm
Kaun rated as the 9th best player in all of the Euroleagues this year in PIR (Performance Index Rating) which is similar to NBA's Efficiency rating, I guess?Midstate01;1737260 wrote:S&L said what I sorta remembered about him, which is why it was so weird earlier this season when I started hearing his name a lot when talking about next impact players to come over from Europe. Wonder if something has changed with him maybe? I doubt it.
http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Leaders&entity=Players&seasonmode=Single&seasoncode=E2014&cat=Valuation&agg=Accumulated
My guess is that he received a lot better big man coaching overseas than he did in college. Don't know where that leaves his value now, but I have to imagine it's higher than it was when he came out of college.
Also, this:
Commander of Awesome;1737242 wrote:He's still a center though, Bigs get paid and are always in demand.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 25, 2015 6:05pm
Doesn't get much better than Danny manning hahalhslep134;1737271 wrote:Kaun rated as the 9th best player in all of the Euroleagues this year in PIR (Performance Index Rating) which is similar to NBA's Efficiency rating, I guess?
http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Leaders&entity=Players&seasonmode=Single&seasoncode=E2014&cat=Valuation&agg=Accumulated
My guess is that he received a lot better big man coaching overseas than he did in college. Don't know where that leaves his value now, but I have to imagine it's higher than it was when he came out of college.
Also, this:
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2015 6:09pm
I should have rephrased. I meant to say more focused coaching overseas. College big men aren't afforded the same developmental energy as professional teams, especially a powerhouse like CSKASportsAndLady;1737278 wrote:Doesn't get much better than Danny manning haha
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 25, 2015 6:45pm
It's crazy the draft is tonight. It was nice for once not to think about the draft halfway thru the season.
Lovejoy1984
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Jun 25, 2015 6:45pm
True, and at the same time, Big men almost always take longer to be ready.lhslep134;1737280 wrote:I should have rephrased. I meant to say more focused coaching overseas. College big men aren't afforded the same developmental energy as professional teams, especially a powerhouse like CSKA
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2015 7:13pm
I was thinking the same thing a couple hours ago.like_that;1737284 wrote:It's crazy the draft is tonight. It was nice for once not to think about the draft halfway thru the season.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 25, 2015 7:14pm
At the same time...where the hell did this Kaun development come from? Not the development of him as a player, the development of him as an asset that other teams want. I hadn't heard anything until it came out a couple days ago. It sounds like he's basically a free asset for us, so no complaints.HighRoller74;1737285 wrote:True, and at the same time, Big men almost always take longer to be ready.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jun 25, 2015 10:13pm
Cavs finally on the clock.
Hazell, Tyus Jones, RJ Hunter still on the clock. Or they could stash a foreign guy.
Hazell, Tyus Jones, RJ Hunter still on the clock. Or they could stash a foreign guy.
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2015 10:20pm
Draft Tyus and then send him to Minny for 31 and 36.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jun 25, 2015 10:20pm
Seems like Tyus Jones would be a great pick.HighRoller74;1737343 wrote:Cavs finally on the clock.
Hazell, Tyus Jones, RJ Hunter still on the clock. Or they could stash a foreign guy.
Laley23
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Jun 25, 2015 10:21pm
Tyus would be great for Cavs IMO.
GOONx19
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Jun 25, 2015 10:23pm
Makes us better. No complaints.
Lovejoy1984
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Jun 25, 2015 10:23pm
Tyus was the pick, but trading him to Minny for 31-36.
Ytowngirlinfla
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Jun 25, 2015 10:23pm
Traded to Minnesota
S
superman
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Jun 25, 2015 10:25pm
Windhorst saying traded to Minny. So it might happen.
GOONx19
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Jun 25, 2015 10:28pm
Good call.wildcats20;1737344 wrote:Draft Tyus and then send him to Minny for 31 and 36.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jun 25, 2015 10:28pm
What's the point in getting the 31st & 36th picks?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 25, 2015 10:29pm
Save salary? Bout the only thing I can think of.se-alum;1737352 wrote:What's the point in getting the 31st & 36th picks?
robj55
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Jun 25, 2015 10:31pm
Non guaranteed contracts right?
wildcats20
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Jun 25, 2015 10:31pm
I'm only following along on Twitter. So Woj had it long before it was announced.GOONx19;1737351 wrote:Good call.
se-alum
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Jun 25, 2015 10:35pm
#31 would still be a guaranteed contract.robj55;1737355 wrote:Non guaranteed contracts right?
Ytowngirlinfla
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Jun 25, 2015 10:35pm
NVM.robj55;1737355 wrote:Non guaranteed contracts right?
Just checked but doesn't count against the cap?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 25, 2015 10:36pm
1st round picks are guaranteed a contract. Nothing is guaranteed for 2nd round picks.se-alum;1737352 wrote:What's the point in getting the 31st & 36th picks?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 25, 2015 10:37pm
No.se-alum;1737358 wrote:#31 would still be a guaranteed contract.
Lovejoy1984
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Jun 25, 2015 10:40pm
Wouldn't be surprised to see the Cavs make a couple more trades tonight.