Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2015 11:33am
We also have interest in Durrant. Like Sleeper said, highly HIGHLY doubt he comes to Cleveland, no bad how lbj wants him.BR1986FB;1737966 wrote:Cavs interested in Dunleavy?
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2015/06/cavs-reportedly-interested-in-mike-dunleavy/
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Jun 30, 2015 2:47pm
SportsAndLady;1737165 wrote:I just did a Google search and found nothing about him signing one year deals or about how that could maximize his income.
Also read a Miami sun time article titled "love opts out of contract and lebron James doesn't want him back."
Jesus what kind of hack journalism bullshit is that?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lebron-james-going-keep-signing-171405013.html;_ylt=A0LEVxai4pJV0KEA9uVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyM3V1dWMzBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzOTVfMQRzZWMDc3I-
Bird Rights and the new CBA net him $110 more over the next seven years if he signs a 1 yr deal this year and next. the real question is would the Cavs give him 5 years and $202 when he's 33. I ask that because he's had some really tough miles put on that body, seriously gets pummeled like every play.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 30, 2015 3:39pm
The answer is yes.j_crazy;1738035 wrote:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lebron-james-going-keep-signing-171405013.html;_ylt=A0LEVxai4pJV0KEA9uVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyM3V1dWMzBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzOTVfMQRzZWMDc3I-
Bird Rights and the new CBA net him $110 more over the next seven years if he signs a 1 yr deal this year and next. the real question is would the Cavs give him 5 years and $202 when he's 33. I ask that because he's had some really tough miles put on that body, seriously gets pummeled like every play.
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Jun 30, 2015 3:53pm
$202 over five years is pretty lousy money. Even I make more than that and I work at the golf course mowing grass.j_crazy;1738035 wrote:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lebron-james-going-keep-signing-171405013.html;_ylt=A0LEVxai4pJV0KEA9uVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyM3V1dWMzBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzOTVfMQRzZWMDc3I-
Bird Rights and the new CBA net him $110 more over the next seven years if he signs a 1 yr deal this year and next. the real question is would the Cavs give him 5 years and $202 when he's 33. I ask that because he's had some really tough miles put on that body, seriously gets pummeled like every play.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jun 30, 2015 3:55pm
Cavs and Spurs working on a trade for Haywood's contract, so the Spurs can get Aldridge, I would assume.
The trade would look something like this...
Haywood for Mills and Splitter or Diaw.
I would take it. Diaw can play the 3,4 and the 5. I don't think I would take Splitter as a third string 5, but with Varejao, you might want insurance. Mills gives you that solid backup. Any combination of the three give you championship experience that wouldn't rot on the bench.
The trade would look something like this...
Haywood for Mills and Splitter or Diaw.
I would take it. Diaw can play the 3,4 and the 5. I don't think I would take Splitter as a third string 5, but with Varejao, you might want insurance. Mills gives you that solid backup. Any combination of the three give you championship experience that wouldn't rot on the bench.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2015 3:57pm
That would be an epic deal
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 30, 2015 3:59pm
I have no faith in Varejao anymore so I like this trade. Mills also provides a little 3-point shooting and guard depth although I don't think he is the solution for buying minutes for Irving.sportswizuhrd;1738048 wrote:Cavs and Spurs working on a trade for Haywood's contract, so the Spurs can get Aldridge, I would assume.
The trade would look something like this...
Haywood for Mills and Splitter or Diaw.
I would take it. Diaw can play the 3,4 and the 5. I don't think I would take Splitter as a third string 5, but with Varejao, you might want insurance. Mills gives you that solid backup. Any combination of the three give you championship experience that wouldn't rot on the bench.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jun 30, 2015 4:00pm
Ideally the Cavs would then move Splitter/Diaw to another team for a younger SF.sportswizuhrd;1738048 wrote:Cavs and Spurs working on a trade for Haywood's contract, so the Spurs can get Aldridge, I would assume.
The trade would look something like this...
Haywood for Mills and Splitter or Diaw.
I would take it. Diaw can play the 3,4 and the 5. I don't think I would take Splitter as a third string 5, but with Varejao, you might want insurance. Mills gives you that solid backup. Any combination of the three give you championship experience that wouldn't rot on the bench.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 30, 2015 4:08pm
Ideally yes. We have a lot of back court depth but low on wing players. When the Cavs build this team for the next 4-5 years of Lebron's peak career, they are going to need a SF that can buy minutes for Lebron during the regular season. I still expect Lebron to get mid-season vacations from a 'lingering injury' like he did last year.HighRoller74;1738053 wrote:Ideally the Cavs would then move Splitter/Diaw to another team for a younger SF.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jun 30, 2015 4:23pm
As he should. I'd advocate that for Love and Kyrie as well. Stagger each of them throughout the 2nd half of the year.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2015 4:28pm
Disagree. I'd keep Splitter/Diaw. Bigs are like pitching, can't have enough. When Anderson goes down 22 games into the season, we're left with Moz as the only true 5. Diaw can play some 3 on offense, TT can guard some 3 on Def. Then have Moz/Splitter or Moz/Diaw to play some 5. Try like hell to move JR for SF backup.HighRoller74;1738053 wrote:Ideally the Cavs would then move Splitter/Diaw to another team for a younger SF.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2015 4:30pm
- ESPN Cleveland ‏@ESPNCleveland 45m45 minutes ago
WIndhorst: You may see Cavs pursue players like Boris Diaw or Patty Mills in SA, Mario Chalmers from Mia, or perhaps Joe Johnson in deals.
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ESPN Cleveland ‏@ESPNCleveland 49m49 minutes ago
Windhorst: You're about to see spending from the Cavs like you've never seen in Cleveland sports history.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 30, 2015 4:37pm
Disagree with this. Cavs didn't lose because of lack of bigs; they lost because of lack of talent depth. When you have 8 players out of 15 that straight up are hurt(Love, Varejao, Irving) or simply can't play(Marion, Miller, Haywood, Perkins, Harris), you aren't going to win a championship. Cavs need overall depth at every position and shouldn't throw away their one big piece for 2 PF/C on a team that already has plenty of PF/C. We need wing and PG depth badly.Commander of Awesome;1738063 wrote:Disagree. I'd keep Splitter/Diaw. Bigs are like pitching, can't have enough. When Anderson goes down 22 games into the season, we're left with Moz as the only true 5. Diaw can play some 3 on offense, TT can guard some 3 on Def. Then have Moz/Splitter or Moz/Diaw to play some 5. Try like hell to move JR for SF backup.
The backup PG is Delly(love him, but he lacks talent) and the backup SF is James Jones(LOL) and Mike Miller(Bigger LOL), but no let's add more PF/C because Love, TT, Mozgov, and Varejao isn't enough. Remember you only get 15 players on a roster and currently the Cavs have 7 of those roster spots for PF/C.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2015 4:38pm
Mozgov is our only legit center on the roster. TT can't really play it.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 30, 2015 4:43pm
Legit centers don't win championships anymore. This isn't the early 2000's with Shaq carrying Kobe Bryant to championships. When's the last time a Center carried a team to a championship? Gasol with the Lakers? It's the exception, not the rule in today's NBA.Commander of Awesome;1738066 wrote:Mozgov is our only legit center on the roster. TT can't really play it.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 30, 2015 4:44pm
I hope Dolan is taking notes.Commander of Awesome;1738064 wrote:
- ESPN Cleveland ‏@ESPNCleveland 45m45 minutes ago
WIndhorst: You may see Cavs pursue players like Boris Diaw or Patty Mills in SA, Mario Chalmers from Mia, or perhaps Joe Johnson in deals.
156 retweets 76 favorites
Windhorst: You're about to see spending from the Cavs like you've never seen in Cleveland sports history.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2015 4:45pm
Duncan/Splitter and Spurssleeper;1738069 wrote:Legit centers don't win championships anymore. This isn't the early 2000's with Shaq carrying Kobe Bryant to championships. When's the last time a Center carried a team to a championship? Gasol with the Lakers? It's the exception, not the rule in today's NBA.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 30, 2015 4:56pm
Yeah Duncan is a legit center. :RpS_lol:Commander of Awesome;1738072 wrote:Duncan/Splitter and Spurs
But yeah way to prove my point. Exception, not the rule. This ain't the 80's bro.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2015 4:57pm
I'd say heat/gsw are the exception brosleeper;1738073 wrote:Yeah Duncan is a legit center. :RpS_lol:
But yeah way to prove my point. Exception, not the rule. This ain't the 80's bro.
Hell LBJ would have been able to rest with KI/Love. LBJ to bench, KI/Love can run the offense. Pwning their def with Splitter/Diaw. EZ
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Jun 30, 2015 5:35pm
ESPN says the Cavs & LeBron are eyeballing Dunleavy.
What is LeBron's deal with washed-up, white, one-dimensional players?
What is LeBron's deal with washed-up, white, one-dimensional players?
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jun 30, 2015 7:20pm
With what the Cavs are able to do this offseason with limited cash, he'd be an upgrade to the bench for sure. Dunleavy> Jones, Miller, Marion.MontyBrunswick;1738082 wrote:ESPN says the Cavs & LeBron are eyeballing Dunleavy.
What is LeBron's deal with washed-up, white, one-dimensional players?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 30, 2015 7:48pm
Doubt he's taking the MLE which is all we have to offer.Benny The Jet;1738089 wrote:With what the Cavs are able to do this offseason with limited cash, he'd be an upgrade to the bench for sure. Dunleavy> Jones, Miller, Marion.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 30, 2015 8:29pm
Same with Mo Williams. They keep talking about "mutual interest" but will he take the MLE?Commander of Awesome;1738092 wrote:Doubt he's taking the MLE which is all we have to offer.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jun 30, 2015 8:40pm
Mo Will probably be a Vet min. guy, same with Dunleavy. Both only made around $3.5m last season, and each are a year older, which means offers will drop.
Veteran Min deals for both would be around $1.3m, so they could probably make more else where, but not too much more.
Veteran Min deals for both would be around $1.3m, so they could probably make more else where, but not too much more.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 30, 2015 10:42pm
I am fairly certain you can sign any player to the vet minimum regardless of cap situation.HighRoller74;1738099 wrote:Mo Will probably be a Vet min. guy, same with Dunleavy. Both only made around $3.5m last season, and each are a year older, which means offers will drop.
Veteran Min deals for both would be around $1.3m, so they could probably make more else where, but not too much more.