j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Jul 1, 2015 3:28pm
No. I had doubts that he was coming back, even after reading that post.like_that;1738294 wrote:You have doubts about a guy who essentially averaged a double double? LOL
Also, so much for Lebron not recruiting him.
HOWEVER, breaking news on ESPN:
[h=1]Kevin Love agrees to five-year, $110 million contract to stay with Cavs[/h]http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13181983/kevin-love-agrees-five-year-110-million-contract-cleveland-cavaliers
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 1, 2015 3:31pm
You should have more doubts now that ESPN reported it. They have been telling us all year he doesnt like cleveland, nobody on the team likes him, he doesn't fit in well with the scheme, frustrating with his role, and he was all but gone after the season.j_crazy;1738296 wrote:No. I had doubts that he was coming back, even after reading that post.
HOWEVER, breaking news on ESPN:
Kevin Love agrees to five-year, $110 million contract to stay with Cavs
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13181983/kevin-love-agrees-five-year-110-million-contract-cleveland-cavaliers
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jul 1, 2015 3:36pm
FTFYMontyBrunswick;1738274 wrote:JR should leave. Dudes a bum
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Jul 1, 2015 3:44pm
full disclosure, i read wildcats post as "Portland Tribune", then didn't click the link. So i was late to the news that it was actually being reported. I just thought it was another shit head reporter asking him and he says "yeah, i'm going back." this is my bad.like_that;1738298 wrote:You should have more doubts now that ESPN reported it. They have been telling us all year he doesnt like cleveland, nobody on the team likes him, he doesn't fit in well with the scheme, frustrating with his role, and he was all but gone after the season.
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Jul 1, 2015 4:08pm
Bum.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1738278 wrote:Get out of here. Dude can straight D up, and isn't a slouch on offense when healthy. He played in the finals on one leg and with one arm. Gotta respect the grit and the grind.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 1, 2015 4:10pm
Thanks, got RT by a guy I follow on twitter that's a source, and then I followed it up in here. My b, I'm slippin'wildcats20;1738254 wrote:Yup, fake account. "Blaecher"
@BlaecherReport: BREAKING: Lakers announce that Kevin Love will sign a 4-year max deal worth $70M http://t.co/gmaiV3qmhw http://t.co/LVtxmwXWj7
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 1, 2015 6:10pm
@WojYahooNBA: Sources: Cavaliers restricted free agent Iman Shumpert will start taking meetings with teams. So far, unable to reach deal with Cleveland.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 1, 2015 6:16pm
These are great deals for the cavs. Love and Kyrie's deals will seem small when the cap is 100 million in 2 years. Also I didn't expect to see Love sign for 5 years. Assumed it'd be one or two. Which tells me all the talk of him being unhappy is completely false. Think the cavs will match just about anything with shumpert. Think Jr ends up elsewhere which I am bummed about, but know it makes sense financially.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 1, 2015 6:37pm
Love has an opt out after 4. Shump is asking $10 mil, I think he'll end up getting it.Midstate01;1738346 wrote:These are great deals for the cavs. Love and Kyrie's deals will seem small when the cap is 100 million in 2 years. Also I didn't expect to see Love sign for 5 years. Assumed it'd be one or two. Which tells me all the talk of him being unhappy is completely false. Think the cavs will match just about anything with shumpert. Think Jr ends up elsewhere which I am bummed about, but know it makes sense financially.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 1, 2015 6:41pm
Yea, but that's still 4 years from now. After he's likely won a title or two.
I was thinking maybe the cavs would wait and let someone make an offer to shump, then sign him. Let someone else set his market. Risky but could work out.
I was thinking maybe the cavs would wait and let someone make an offer to shump, then sign him. Let someone else set his market. Risky but could work out.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 1, 2015 6:47pm
- Joe Lull ‏@LullOnSports 4m4 minutes ago
Could Terrance Ross be had along w/ some flotsam for Haywood? Young, versatile, solid defender, 37% from 3. Upgrade over JR and cheaper.
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Joe Lull ‏@LullOnSports 5m5 minutes ago
Other random thoughts. Forget DeMarr DeRozen, he's part of Toronto's core. But w/ Raps signing Carroll and wooing Wes Matthews...
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 1, 2015 6:58pm
LA - theOBR ‏@TheRealLA__ 7m7 minutes ago Wade has to be under contract to be in a S/T with Cleveland for Haywood. Don't see Riley doing anything with CLE @scott2824
LA - theOBR ‏@TheRealLA__ 4m4 minutes ago
He derailed at least 3 trades last year due to Cole ultimately landing in CLE. ...too much pride and ego for him to do it @scott2824
Joe Lull ‏@LullOnSports 8m8 minutes ago
Dream scenario. Aldridge to Suns, Spurs don't get better. Matthews to Raps, who deal Ross to Cavs. RipCity inks Monroe, Mavs land DeAndre...
LA - theOBR ‏@TheRealLA__ 4m4 minutes ago
He derailed at least 3 trades last year due to Cole ultimately landing in CLE. ...too much pride and ego for him to do it @scott2824
Joe Lull ‏@LullOnSports 8m8 minutes ago
Dream scenario. Aldridge to Suns, Spurs don't get better. Matthews to Raps, who deal Ross to Cavs. RipCity inks Monroe, Mavs land DeAndre...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 1, 2015 7:03pm
Might be able to thank Mike Miller for Love signing the 5 year deal. I guess Miller said something to the effect of "will $20 million (signing 1 year deal) really change your life?" to which Love said "no" to which Miller responded "now will $100 million change your life?" to which Love agreed. Also sounds like Love was concerned with potential injuries and the security this deal brought. This was all from Jason Lloyd who is the Cavs beat writer for the ABJ.Midstate01;1738346 wrote:These are great deals for the cavs. Love and Kyrie's deals will seem small when the cap is 100 million in 2 years. Also I didn't expect to see Love sign for 5 years. Assumed it'd be one or two. Which tells me all the talk of him being unhappy is completely false. Think the cavs will match just about anything with shumpert. Think Jr ends up elsewhere which I am bummed about, but know it makes sense financially.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 1, 2015 7:06pm
Kind of why I wasn't a huge fan of that Haywood deal to SA where the Cavs got Diaw and more in return. If that deal frees up cap space for the Spurs to acquire Aldridge, the Cavs just helped themselves slit their own throats because the Spurs are the likely favorites to win it all with that lineup.Commander of Awesome;1738351 wrote:Joe Lull ‏@LullOnSports 8m8 minutes ago
Dream scenario. Aldridge to Suns, Spurs don't get better. Matthews to Raps, who deal Ross to Cavs. RipCity inks Monroe, Mavs land DeAndre...
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 1, 2015 7:10pm
If that is true, then I guess Mike at least contributed something to the cavs.BR1986FB;1738353 wrote:Might be able to thank Mike Miller for Love signing the 5 year deal. I guess Miller said something to the effect of "will $20 million (signing 1 year deal) really change your life?" to which Love said "no" to which Miller responded "now will $100 million change your life?" to which Love agreed. Also sounds like Love was concerned with potential injuries and the security this deal brought. This was all from Jason Lloyd who is the Cavs beat writer for the ABJ.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 1, 2015 7:11pm
Do the suns need to clear any space for Aldridge? Any pieces they could send the cavs for haywood?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 1, 2015 7:33pm
@WojYahooNBA: Iman Shumpert has agreed to a four-year, $40M contract to remain with the Cavaliers, league source tells Yahoo.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 1, 2015 7:34pm
Ha....exactly what the radio guys said.like_that;1738356 wrote:If that is true, then I guess Mike at least contributed something to the cavs.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jul 1, 2015 7:37pm
10 millon is right about where I thought he'd come in. Will look better after the cap Jumps.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jul 1, 2015 7:39pm
Gilbert spending like a fiend. Think it's part of the reason LBJ waited to see what they'd do. Miami's owner is worth almost twice as much as Gilbert and he wasn't willing to go way over the luxury tax. That may have been a small piece as to why Lebron returned.wildcats20;1738362 wrote:@WojYahooNBA: Iman Shumpert has agreed to a four-year, $40M contract to remain with the Cavaliers, league source tells Yahoo.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 1, 2015 8:31pm
I believe that is the main reason right after not winning a championships in his final year at Miami.BR1986FB;1738365 wrote:Gilbert spending like a fiend. Think it's part of the reason LBJ waited to see what they'd do. Miami's owner is worth almost twice as much as Gilbert and he wasn't willing to go way over the luxury tax. That may have been a small piece as to why Lebron returned.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 1, 2015 8:32pm
Solid. Seems expensive, but with the cap going up like it will this is actually a cheap deal.wildcats20;1738362 wrote:@WojYahooNBA: Iman Shumpert has agreed to a four-year, $40M contract to remain with the Cavaliers, league source tells Yahoo.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 1, 2015 8:33pm
This, especially Kyrie's deal.Midstate01;1738346 wrote:These are great deals for the cavs. Love and Kyrie's deals will seem small when the cap is 100 million in 2 years. Also I didn't expect to see Love sign for 5 years. Assumed it'd be one or two. Which tells me all the talk of him being unhappy is completely false. Think the cavs will match just about anything with shumpert. Think Jr ends up elsewhere which I am bummed about, but know it makes sense financially.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jul 1, 2015 8:43pm
It was market value for him. Think I saw where this would be $13M in 2016 and $16M in 2017.sleeper;1738371 wrote:Solid. Seems expensive, but with the cap going up like it will this is actually a cheap deal.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 1, 2015 8:52pm
I think $7-8 was the right number but $10M in years of the salary cap expanding will be a steal.wildcats20;1738374 wrote:It was market value for him. Think I saw where this would be $13M in 2016 and $16M in 2017.