2015-2016 Cleveland Cavaliers World Champions!

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BR1986FB
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Jul 9, 2015 1:08pm
wildcats20;1739820 wrote:@Chris_Broussard: Agent Rich Paul tells Cavs today LeBron will sign 2 yr deal with player option for 2nd year. $22.97 million 1st season, $24 mill 2nd year
Like I said before, I can see him signing one year deal after one year deal so he can maximize his income. I'll be surprised to see him sign any long term extension.
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Jul 9, 2015 1:15pm
BR1986FB;1739825 wrote:Like I said before, I can see him signing one year deal after one year deal so he can maximize his income. I'll be surprised to see him sign any long term extension.
After this offseason taking one year deals wouldn't be beneficial to him financially from what I understand.
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Jul 9, 2015 1:32pm
Commander of Awesome;1739821 wrote:No surprise there.
It's not china, but it will do
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Jul 9, 2015 1:34pm
DeyDurkie5;1739831 wrote:It's not china, but it will do
Go back and read. Thanks.
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Jul 9, 2015 1:38pm
like_that;1739828 wrote:After this offseason taking one year deals wouldn't be beneficial to him financially from what I understand.
I think this is incorrect. He can get 35% of the cap to start with, with a (I believe) 7.5% increase per season. He doesn't continue to get 35% of the future cap, its based on the original year of the contract.

It shouldn't be in his best financial interest to sign long term until the cap peaks.
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Jul 9, 2015 1:45pm
Mulva;1739836 wrote:I think this is incorrect. He can get 35% of the cap to start with, with a (I believe) 7.5% increase per season. He doesn't continue to get 35% of the future cap, its based on the original year of the contract.

It shouldn't be in his best financial interest to sign long term until the cap peaks.
I thought the cap would peak after next season.
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Jul 9, 2015 2:19pm
like_that;1739841 wrote:I thought the cap would peak after next season.
2 summers from now unless NBA has revised its projection in the past couple months. Was around $67 for this year (now 70), 89, 108, then back to 100 for some reason.

Although with a lockout probably coming in 2017 who knows.
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Jul 9, 2015 2:20pm
Thankfully Lebron didn't go play in China for $50M/yr.

Glad to have him back.
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Jul 9, 2015 2:21pm
sleeper;1739844 wrote:Thankfully Lebron didn't go play in China for $50M/yr.

Glad to have him back.
I was really concerned about that. Thank god the rumors weren't true.
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Jul 9, 2015 2:24pm
BR1986FB;1739825 wrote:Like I said before, I can see him signing one year deal after one year deal so he can maximize his income. I'll be surprised to see him sign any long term extension.
He will sign a max contract extension in 2 after a new CBA is established. The players want more share of the revenue and I bet they get it so even with the cap increases Lebron can make a crap load of money with the new CBA.
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Jul 9, 2015 2:37pm
Mulva;1739836 wrote:I think this is incorrect. He can get 35% of the cap to start with, with a (I believe) 7.5% increase per season. He doesn't continue to get 35% of the future cap, its based on the original year of the contract.

It shouldn't be in his best financial interest to sign long term until the cap peaks.
his max raise is only 4.5% this year and 4.5% after the 16-17 season. His bird rights don't max until after the 2017 season. but true, if the cap keeps climbing by anything more than 7.5% after the 2017 season, he'd be better off signing 1 yr deals. I don't see how it can increase by more than that amount after the CBA blow-up in TV money next year though.
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Jul 9, 2015 2:40pm
sleeper;1739846 wrote:He will sign a max contract extension in 2 after a new CBA is established. The players want more share of the revenue and I bet they get it so even with the cap increases Lebron can make a crap load of money with the new CBA.
He'll be 33 then, be interesting to see if Cavs give him a max at that point. Can't think of a 33 yr old player I'd give the max to now.
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Jul 9, 2015 2:42pm
Commander of Awesome;1739850 wrote:He'll be 33 then, be interesting to see if Cavs give him a max at that point. Can't think of a 33 yr old player I'd give the max to now.
i literally said this exact same thing 2 or 3 pages ago on this very thread.
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Jul 9, 2015 2:47pm
j_crazy;1739853 wrote:i literally said this exact same thing 2 or 3 pages ago on this very thread.
Congrats?

Didn't see it. What's your stance?
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Jul 9, 2015 2:49pm
Commander of Awesome;1739850 wrote:He'll be 33 then, be interesting to see if Cavs give him a max at that point. Can't think of a 33 yr old player I'd give the max to now.
I can think of one player and his name is Lebron James.
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Jul 9, 2015 2:58pm
Commander of Awesome;1739858 wrote:Congrats?

Didn't see it. What's your stance?
if they still don't have a title, i'm saying no way. what you're getting from 34 on is not going to be better than what you will get in these next 2 years. Lebron's got a lot of miles on his body, and they are HARD miles, he gets beat up.
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Jul 9, 2015 3:18pm
Maybe he'll continue to sign 1 and 1 deals until he gets to the Tim Duncan age where he starts signing 1 and 1 deals to help the team out.
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Jul 9, 2015 3:33pm
or he may shut it down at like 35. and doesn't want a big guaranteed number hanging out there if/when he does? i've always thought he's wanted something more than just being the best NBA player ever. i think he wants to do like movies, music, philanthropy, other shit. and once he starts to feel like his body could start breaking down, he hangs it up for good.
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Jul 9, 2015 3:35pm
j_crazy;1739875 wrote:or he may shut it down at like 35. and doesn't want a big guaranteed number hanging out there if/when he does? i've always thought he's wanted something more than just being the best NBA player ever. i think he wants to do like movies, music, philanthropy, other shit. and once he starts to feel like his body could start breaking down, he hangs it up for good.
Lebron will play until he's 40. No doubt.

I think he will sign a 5 year maximum deal when he's 33 and after that contract is up he will sign a 2 year deal constructed in a way that gives the Cavs a chance to bring in another top tier player to chase another title.
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Jul 9, 2015 3:36pm
What other EC teams you think are in contention to rep the east in the finals?

Other than Cavs only teams I see are Bulls (strongest contender), MAYBE Heat, Maybe Pacers [will get a full season from Paul George], and long shot Bucks.
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Jul 9, 2015 3:52pm
I agree with your grouping.

It's really only the Cavs and then the Bulls. No one else really has a shot at it this year.
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Jul 9, 2015 3:58pm
Commander of Awesome;1739878 wrote:What other EC teams you think are in contention to rep the east in the finals?

Other than Cavs only teams I see are Bulls (strongest contender), MAYBE Heat, Maybe Pacers [will get a full season from Paul George], and long shot Bucks.
Surprised you omitted the Hawks but I think I agree with you they're not really contenders. Maybe they were last year at full strength but Demarre was a big part of their success, and I don't think Splitter moves the needle at all.

Otherwise you nailed it. Bulls, maybe Heat, maybe Indiana, dark shot Milwaukee
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Jul 9, 2015 4:01pm
If Durant goes to Washington you gotta put them in that conversation


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Jul 9, 2015 4:04pm
what about a healthy Wizards team? The Raptors?
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Jul 9, 2015 4:13pm
Commander of Awesome;1739878 wrote:What other EC teams you think are in contention to rep the east in the finals?

Other than Cavs only teams I see are Bulls (strongest contender), MAYBE Heat, Maybe Pacers [will get a full season from Paul George], and long shot Bucks.
Just the Cavs. Bulls won't do anything until they trade or cut D. Rose.